People's Liberation Army Air Force : News & Discussions

China launched:
02 6th Gen Fighters
01 New Gen AWACS
Type 076 LHA


Meanwhile Indian MoD (Defence Secretary) launched:
 
I can assume because of Chinese secrecy of not getting their equipment capabilities validated by neutral parties..... For e.g. You won't see Chinese fighter plane radars Antenna design ever as it will expose them very badly..... All you will see is badly blurred pictures. Chinese rely heavily on Russians and west for core high end technologies like rest of the world.
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J-10C rader
 
All I'm saying is it would have made for an interesting comparison. Anyways, there's one (non-CGI) image purported to be NGAD doing the rounds online. Quite different compared to B-21 too. Looks like dorsal intakes and sharp beak-like nose-tips are going to be common on next-gen fighters.

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Creating a short movie like CGI is very easy for a dominating giant company. They are leading most aspects of computing tech. AI-generated fake videos are making headlines in news.
 
Creating a short movie like CGI is very easy for a dominating giant company. They are leading most aspects of computing tech. AI-generated fake videos are making headlines in news.

Or it could be just one of the many designs competing for the USAF contract. Boeing, LM and NG were all in the race but the fate of the prog is uncertain as of now.
 

@randomradio i used to said that we should have taken the IP for C17 at whatever price & conditions that uncle sam asks for, so that we can replace all IL76 with us, and can be used a common plat form for our futur EW aircraft, AWACS, maritime surveillance aircraft etc. But people were against c17 using for such thing, and now we seeing china doing same thing with c17 equivalent.
 
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China launched:
02 6th Gen Fighters
01 New Gen AWACS
Type 076 LHA


Meanwhile Indian MoD (Defence Secretary) launched:
It's coordinated publicity event apparently because of mass murderer Mao's birthday.
 
I only wish it were that easy but if DRDO/ADE could dust off the old MCA design (from the early 2000s) and make it more contemporary....

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Great achievement by China👍. However, we don't need to panic just because they've (unofficially) unveiled two 6th gen prototypes. We need to continue our military modernisation so that by the time China decides to go to war with us, we're powerful enough to thwart them off.
If India can give up its intentions towards Tibet, we can naturally resolve the hostility. Remember, the rupture between China and India started when the Nehru government took in the Dalai Lama rebel group in 1959
 
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If India can give up its intentions towards Tibet, we can naturally resolve the hostility. Remember, the rupture between China and India started when the Nehru government took in the Dalai Lama rebel group in 1959
India/Indians don't have any interest in barren/harsh lands. We are tropical people living in tropical land on this side of Himalayas since time immemorial. Dalai Lama is a Buddhist & Buddhism was born in India. Indians are mostly theistic Hindus but we don't curse atheists, agnostic people as long as they live neutrally, there are many branches of philosophies in our culture. While you guys call Buddhists as REBELS. If China has its own ancient religion then it should be happy to have the Buddhists return to their country of origin. So he had to go somewhere to escape possible imprisonment or execution, he couldn't go to Abrahmic nations so India was obvious choice. You guys do whatever you want with barren Tibet, this is my personal thining.
 
Check what India imports from China. In the top 10 items you will find computer equipment for medical purposes, engineering equipment for powerplants and electronics.

They are at the very least at par with global standards.
& where the hell does cheena import the high end machines to build those electronics that they sell from ? Guess it's west & in East japan
Again with blurred images..... You reaffirm my point.
 
Because it is a real program and not propaganda. And what did Chyna beat us in.... revealing an empty prototype?

US has been flying sht for decades that hasn't been made public.

Whatever these are they aren't public yet.
I've had the misfortune to see this claptrap much before you linked it here & since you made an appearance more than 3 years ago you've linked the same damn video at least half a dozen times.

Why don't you admit your stomach churned when you saw what the gooks did , were spooked & soiled your panties much like everybody in the Pentagon apart from getting your panties into a twist .

You're not going to war over Taiwan . Not after that video from China showing not one but two 6th Gen planes make an appearance.

You're going to tuck your tail between your legs & scram from the Indo Pacific when the balloon goes up like a good American does everytime he knows he isn't going to win this , like you do everytime we violate your no good culo out here .
 
& where the hell does cheena import the high end machines to build those electronics that they sell from ? Guess it's west & in East japan
Beijing Jingdiao and KEDE Numerical Control, Wuhan Huazhong Numerical Control and other machine tool companies can do not inferior to the German machine tool level, as for electronics, we have realized the localization of 28nm lithography machine, and Huawei's mobile phone using 7nm chip has been publicly sold in 2022
 
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This is what a Chinese member of D F B posted about the "6th Gen Stealth Aircraft." Apparently this is a statement by the chief designer of the J-20.
In early March 2023, Yang Wei, the chief designer of the J-20, revealed for the first time in an interview with CCTV the positioning of China's future sixth generation aircraft. While everyone was still immersed in the news of the US sixth generation aircraft, the chief engineer's words undoubtedly gave us a shot of stability.

Regarding the sixth generation aircraft, Chief Engineer Yang Wei emphasized three key points. Firstly, it can undergo deformation according to changes in flight altitude and space.

Let's watch this video. This is the world's first officially commissioned variable sweep wing fighter F111, as well as the upgraded MiG-23 based on the MiG21, which also adopts a variable wing design. Fighter jets with this design can instantly increase cruise lift when the wings are extended at small angles. This design is a variation of fighter jets.

The deformation of the sixth generation aircraft is a complete change in the shape of the entire fuselage and the external aerodynamic layout, which is much more complex than simple variable sweep wings.

The second point defined by the chief engineer for the sixth generation aircraft is the ability to break through traditional space and conduct trans atmospheric warfare, such as space or suborbital bombing operations.

The current fourth and fifth generation fighter jets are only suitable for aerial combat in dense atmospheres below 30000 meters due to their use of turbofans or turbojet engines.

In July 2022, the "Feitian-1" rocket ramjet combined power developed by the Aerospace Combined Power Team of Northwestern Polytechnical University was successfully launched from a base in Northwest China. This is a kerosene fuel rocket ramjet combined cycle engine that can operate in sub combustion mode at 4 to 5 times the speed of sound and supersonic mode at 5 to 6 times the speed of sound. Once mature, this engine will enable fighter jets to directly enter the hypersonic field.

The below was my response to him.

This is precisely why I wrote given your track record you will take a good 10-12 years for FOC. In the event neither the J-20 nor the FC-31 / J-35 have been certified FOC.

Arguably if the 6th Gen FA had requirements similar to your 5th Gen FA with certain if not all around enhancements to it , you'd have accomplished it in less than a decade given your experience in accomplishing these in the 5th Gen .

However the 6th Gen FA seem to be much more ambitious in its scope than what one foresaw. I'm predicting here & now with those requirements you'd need a good 18-20 development cycle.

Besides the CMC / PLAAF has in the past always come out with its first iteration & then over a period of time gone on to refine those designs over different iterations before achieving its goals which is why the J-10C is the definitive J-10 , the J-16 C (?) / D is the definitive J-16 & so on .

The same will be true of the J-20 , the J-35 / FC -31 & the same will be true for your 6th Gen FA .
 
This is what a Chinese member of D F B posted about the "6th Gen Stealth Aircraft." Apparently this is a statement by the chief designer of the J-20.


The below was my response to him.

This is precisely why I wrote given your track record you will take a good 10-12 years for FOC. In the event neither the J-20 nor the FC-31 / J-35 have been certified FOC.

Arguably if the 6th Gen FA had requirements similar to your 5th Gen FA with certain if not all around enhancements to it , you'd have accomplished it in less than a decade given your experience in accomplishing these in the 5th Gen .

However the 6th Gen FA seem to be much more ambitious in its scope than what one foresaw. I'm predicting here & now with those requirements you'd need a good 18-20 development cycle.

Besides the CMC / PLAAF has in the past always come out with its first iteration & then over a period of time gone on to refine those designs over different iterations before achieving its goals which is why the J-10C is the definitive J-10 , the J-16 C (?) / D is the definitive J-16 & so on .

The same will be true of the J-20 , the J-35 / FC -31 & the same will be true for your 6th Gen FA .
In my opinion, how do you define foc, J-20 has been produced nearly 300, has become the core of China's air combat aircraft, can't this become foc? Even with the WS10, I think a good example is the F14A, the engine used is the old TF30, the F110 was used later, and the f14a, all the brilliant achievements were done on the TF30 engine. This is very similar to J20
Historically, the J-10 fighter first flew in 1998, until around 2006 foc, J-20 fighter, FOC in 2018, then, this sixth-generation fighter, in the early 2030s, FOC
 
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