It's 80 km the propeller is new. In the public they will say 60 km as for the other AASM. Same approach as for the SCALP which is said more than 300 Km until the president of the French republic said it's 560 km.
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Rafale DH/EH of Indian Air Force : News and Discussions
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English specification:
Technical specifications • Very short (0Km) to very long range (from 70Km+ to 20Km+, depending on release altitude) • Easy to implement, easy to use • Fire & Forget • Multi-target simultaneous attack • Controlled military effects on target • High resistance to GPS unavailability, jamming & target location errors • MIL-STD-1553/1760 interfaces • “Zero-maintenance” to reduce life cycle costs
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l'AASM s'adapte à différents corps de bombe (125, 250, 500 et 1000 kg) et son propulseur lui confère une portée supérieure à 60 km, lui permettant d'être tiré à distance de sécurité.
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Not really. GoI was ready to go for a GTG MII deal for 90 jets back in 2018 for the F3R. It was the IAF that decided they want to go through the tender again. Possibly due to how long ago the previous evaluation was, based on tech before 2008. The F4.2 is a much better option, worth waiting for. As for more Rafales, there's still quite some time left for a second GTG deal of 36 before MRFA kicks in.
Please recall my earlier post about the performance of SH F-18 blk3. Now this is the only aircraft which meats all the criteria of IN. And even for IAF, this is going to be far more potent in its Growler variant.
Leasing fighter jets is very difficult decision to make. All that experience will have to be surrendered, so it should be a lease + buy deal, so that the jets can be bought after the lease period is over.
But it's a much cheaper option than buying outright with our current economy. And the navy will get modern jets quite a few years before they originally planned to. It's interesting how the numbers have fallen from 80 to 57 to 36 to 18 since the requirement first came up the previous decade. I'm sure an extra 18 will be added to the lot in a few years.
Anyway, @Falcon is talking about something else actually, a mix buy of SH. But that won't work out for the IAF. The requirements, as I've said before, are totally different. SH doesn't meet the IAF's requirements, or else they wouldn't have rejected it 10 years ago. And you can be doubly sure the requirements today are even more difficult for the SH to meet. And if interoperability was the main concern, then the default option would be choosing a jet that's already in the IAF's inventory, the Rafale. So the IN's decision has nothing to do with commonality since the IAF's decision is still pending. The IAF can't make a decision to buy 150-200 SH simply because the IN has leased 18 of them, that's completely illogical.
Its 9.94m wingspan makes it the default jet for the IAC-1. And Vikram's stuck with the Mig-29s.
Also, has your friend flown the Rafale yet?
He was trained in USA for Deck ops and He did fly on Rafale as ACNS (Air).
The wings folded span of SH F-18 is 9.3m. That makes it fit for even the front lift of Vikky.
We will eventually buy 57 F 18 s , this 15 plane lease is for getting trained on this plane
The MiG 29K will go to IAF
IAF wants more Rafales , that is a fact
Do u think leasing each and every time is agood idea?
How come a worlds 5th largest economy become so cheap while spending for defense.
When we have so many parasites (farmers who demand loan waivers/subsidies every year, reservation quota chaaps, govt. employees, loss making PSUs, DPSUs, corrupt officials, corrupt politicians, etc) leeching on to our economy sucking out every drop of cash flow what do you expect..,
Its going offtopic but still i wanna give a reply. What you will call if government is spending 8000 cr for a VVIP jet which will barely fly compares to an awacs? We yet to sign the deal for awacs.When we have so many parasites (farmers who demand loan waivers/subsidies every year, reservation quota chaaps, govt. employees, loss making PSUs, DPSUs, corrupt officials, corrupt politicians, etc) leeching on to our economy sucking out every drop of cash flow what do you expect..,
And add to that new Parliament building & associated things are cisting us 20k cr too.
Yes, the IN needs jets. Let's see what happens here.
The Mig-29K will stay put. The aircraft won't have much service life left by the time it exits the navy. Deck ops are extremely harsh on the aircraft. Even the old SHs are struggling with service life on US carriers, and the jet was inducted around the same time the Mig-29 was, and the Mig obviously has the worse airframe.
The lease is for a small number, so it's fine.
Both are crucial and worth the money. The VVIP jet is extremely important for nuclear deterrence as well.
There are two kinds of leasing. One is called just leasing which can be dry lease or wet lease and the other is called Finance leasing. Indian Armed forces must go for Finance Lease. This allows the operator to own the asset by paying the cost of the aircraft/equipment in installemnts which include the cost of the aircraft/equipment plus the interest on the cost of the aircraft/equipment for the duration and time period of the lease. This is a common thing in airline operations. But it can be done for military ware also. To further explain, if the cost of an equipment is USD100m and you take it on fiance lease of ten years at an interest of 2% per annum. you will need to pay USD120m in ten years. so the each installemnt will be calcuted for USD 120m and paid accordingly.
When you do an outright purchase of the aircraft/equipment, the PDPs start-Pre-delivery Payments. The PDPs can be just anything between 10-20% of the fly away cost. And all the payments have to be done when you accept the aircraft. This puts a large financial burden on the purchaser as a large amount of money goes out in a very short time. But Finanace lease allows an operator to distribute the cost over a period of time and the capex budget can be utilised in a better manner to go for larger amount of aircraft/equipment.
In airline operations, Finance lease is very rarely done as the organisation giving the aircraft on such lease can reposses the aircraft anytime in case of default of payments and that means the operator looses a large amount of money. But when we talk of a nation like India wherein the GOI is doing this deal, we can be sure of meeting the payment deadlines.
One of the disadvantages of finance lease is that it does not allow you to change the aircraft/equipment easily as you are now stuck with the equipment forever but a dry lease allows you to replace the aircraft/equipment with better and upgraded one anytime of the lease period.
When you do an outright purchase of the aircraft/equipment, the PDPs start-Pre-delivery Payments. The PDPs can be just anything between 10-20% of the fly away cost. And all the payments have to be done when you accept the aircraft. This puts a large financial burden on the purchaser as a large amount of money goes out in a very short time. But Finanace lease allows an operator to distribute the cost over a period of time and the capex budget can be utilised in a better manner to go for larger amount of aircraft/equipment.
In airline operations, Finance lease is very rarely done as the organisation giving the aircraft on such lease can reposses the aircraft anytime in case of default of payments and that means the operator looses a large amount of money. But when we talk of a nation like India wherein the GOI is doing this deal, we can be sure of meeting the payment deadlines.
One of the disadvantages of finance lease is that it does not allow you to change the aircraft/equipment easily as you are now stuck with the equipment forever but a dry lease allows you to replace the aircraft/equipment with better and upgraded one anytime of the lease period.
This is merely a thought process that is gaining traction at present times. Till as such time a firm agreement is entered into (here, Mr Biden's administration's posturing and actions will be the determinant), one can always expect a last minute flip flop.
Rationale is simple.
India simply can not (in the opinion of the policy makers and decision makers) afford to buy the amount of aircrafts that they need to offset the technological gap that is now emerging with its principal adversaries to the north and to the west. Also, there remain a lot of issues with the LCA which was always a Project (been saying this forever) and its indigenisation fraction as claimed by DPSUs must be taken with a solid kilo of salt, principally, the engine remains an elusive entity.
These two factors coupled to the signing of multiple bilateral agreements with US, have driven in a realization that the Project LCA needs an engine till as such time the tech stabilizes and matures (another 3-4 decades?) and going with US option allows for the availability of the GE F404 and GE F414 engines to be supplied as also the access to number of platforms from US' stocks that can be made available in case of requirement in an actual war. Also, leasing allows for India to actually gain access to technologically better platforms at relatively affordable rates. In the meanwhile, the Project LCA will progress with LCA Mk1a hopefully being inducted in numbers to atleast retire the Mig-21s.
So another band aid over a festering wound. If govt can pass Farm laws why cant they reform DRDO , HAL ...etc to make them accountable. This might be a good time to reform the laggards and bring in more private investment in defence, it will do a lot of good to the economy.