I don't think there will be any major problems. Qatar bought Rafale from France at a high price. However, if Qatar reveals Rafale's equipment and detailed tactics to Pakistan and Turkey, it will eventually depreciate the value of the Rafale they own. Qatar is sure not to do that. If Qatar does that, no one in the international community will trust Qatar. In addition to the Rafale, Qatar will also operate the F-15EX and Eurofighter. They too will keep an eye on Qatar. In Korea, such an action is expressed as "laying down and spitting in the face."
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My question is about the Fact that
If your enemy knows the Entire Capabilities of your Weapon System
So then , in such a case how should you devise Tactics and Strategies
How would our AD engage the mirage or f16 when it's well known they never crossed into our airspace? All of the targets they engaged were from the safety of their airspace.
I agree ROE reasoning is weak but I personally think IAF never wanted to escalate it further since even the GOI called it non military targets ..
That means IAF spokesmen was lying on 27 Feb evening. Good to know that.
IAF is a peace loving force, no doubt.
Even if the enemy learns the abilities and tactics of our weapons, the weapons do not stay in one place, they are constantly upgraded, and so are the tactics. I don't think the enemy will be able to gain an edge by fighting weapons on our side unless we have a powerful platform that actually overwhelms us. Weapons are constantly evolving.
News: French parliamentarians have proposed developing an electronic warfare version of the Rafale fighter. He said the development of the Rafale electronic warfare version will have a positive impact on Rafale's overseas exports.
Un député suggère de développer "rapidement"un Rafale dédié à la guerre électronique | Zone Militaire
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They won't get access. Even if they do, there's nothing much they can do about it. It won't change anything much from our side. But they will have a general idea about the capabilities of fighting the Rafale to a significant extent, which is a risk that has always existed with imports.
What they really need is to bring the Rafale back to Pak and then test it with their equipment. That will be the real problem. Anything else is not a real risk to us because the Qataris are not dumb enough to piss off the French by exposing the Rafale's secrets to another state, so the Rafales will be exercising with limited capability, like how we only operated the Bars with training signals early on with the Americans. There will be measures taken against such leaks anyway.
Do they really need a Rafale to bomb Bahawalpur?So Modi ji’s plan to bomb Bahawalpur riding Rafale vimaan is cancelled now given Pakistanis know rafale vimaan “inside out”
So no more “Rafele hota to xyz hota” anymore.
Ab tera kya hoga kaliya
Does it matter? It’s all about hiding behind excuses.
Modi ji bum maar dete agar rafale hota.
That ris exist with export also, imagine in an extreme unlikely situation of Malaysia selecting Tejas abd we are offering them our uttam, Astra etc.
Its not just Modiji. Its the handiwork of entire trinity. Babu-Neta-Businessman. None of them want sovereignty of India to be protected. Its too costly for them. But if I can I want to see all these beaurocrats in MoD being shot dead publically with their entire families. They are the biggest bane of our existance.
Malaysia isn't buying Tejas. Simply because it has a lot of Israeli tech on it so that is an automatic no-no. Most probably they will go with Korean FA50. Technically inferior to the Tejas but with an American radar it can use the amraam. It can use the paveway and can carry similar payloads even though still less..Plus they have Lockheed Martin as suppliers.
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The FA-50 carries an Israeli radar. The Americans are not going to give them a radar for obvious reasons.
Any contract with Malaysia will only be signed after 2022, which means we have a minimum of 3 years to deliver a jet with an Indian AESA radar, which is planned from the second squadron of Mk1A, ie, 2025-26. Uttam will become production ready this year. A lot of the stuff that's considered Israeli is basically Indian IP, like the UEWS.
A major drawback for the Korean option is the engine is underpowered for the Malaysian environment and comes only in a two-seat configuration. And its currently available weapons options are not suitable to counter the Chinese. It is mostly carrying outdated weapons today. Plus no AMRAAM yet, it's still WIP, although it should become available by 2025, when the missile is obsolete.
With the timeframe the Malaysians are working with, they plan to buy 18 jets now and 36 more later, for 3 squadrons. The 36 more could be the LCA Mk2 instead of Mk1A, so that's a very good option to have.
The previous FLIT-LCA RFI drew responses from Boeing (offering its T-7 Red Hawk), South Korea’s KAI (the FA-50), Italy’s Leonardo (M-346 Master), India’s HAL (Tejas Light Combat Aircraft, or LCA), China-Pakistan PAC (JF-17 Thunder), China’s Hongdu (L-15 Falcon), Czech Aero Vodochody (L-39NG), and Russia’s Yakovlev (Yak-130 Mitten).
Compared to all the non-Chinese aircraft in the competition, only LCA is a real fighter jet.
Their main plan is to get 3 squadrons of FLIT-LCAs and 2 squadrons of MRFAs. So it's unlikely they will be happy with a whole bunch of trainers.
Yes fa 50 uses elm 2032 but I think if the Malaysians push they could use the apg 67 instead. We don't have a radar apart from the elm 2032. I don't think Malaysians are really interested in countering the Chinese..
Stand corrected. Rafale can only win if there is no F-35 offering
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Swiss pick Lockheed Martin's F-35A as next fighter jet
Switzerland's government has chosen Lockheed Martin's F-35A Lightning II as its next-generation fighter plane, it said on Wednesday, a move that will likely trigger another referendum over the contract.
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Zero chance of that happening. You can't buy American tech like that. After all, the Americans don't like creating competitors, especially in a tender in which even they are participating.
Stand corrected. Rafale can only win if there is no F-35 offering
Swiss pick Lockheed Martin's F-35A as next fighter jet
Switzerland's government has chosen Lockheed Martin's F-35A Lightning II as its next-generation fighter plane, it said on Wednesday, a move that will likely trigger another referendum over the contract.
Good. At least we have a concrete result. Hopefully some of the tech evals come out.
Congress urges PM Modi to order JPC investigation into Rafale deal after France opens judicial probe
NEW DELHI: Reiterating its demand for a Joint Parliamentary Committee (JPC) on the Rafale fighter jets deal, the Congress on Saturday said the scandalous expose
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I'm sure this is a problem for France as well, in case some Rafales and Mirages are relocated to Turkey. Never mind the fact that the Turks already know everything there is to know about the F-35 already.
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I'm sure this is a problem for France as well, in case some Rafales and Mirages are relocated to Turkey. Never mind the fact that the Turks already know everything there is to know about the F-35 already.
Turkey allows Qatar to deploy 36 warplanes, 250 personnel for training purposes - Türkiye News
The Technical Regulation on the Deployment of Qatar Military Aircraft Personnel in Turkey signed between Ankara and Doha has been submitted to the parliament. Accordingly, Qatari fighter pilots will receive their training in Turkey, and Qatar will be able to keep 250 military personnel and 36...