Rafale DH/EH of Indian Air Force : News and Discussions

And @vstol Jockey you should be very worried. One of his 'ventures' is the failing Reliance Electricity Distribution which scammed the people of delhi with 1000s of crores worth of bills. His modus operandi has been simple- pentrate, sit on contract and extract. He is gonna screw us with several tens of thousands of crores.
As and when the contract is signed between DA and GOI for additional Rafale, it will be DA who will be responsible for delivering the aircraft on schedule and as per negotiated price and quality. Whom they choose in India as their Tier-1/2/3 supplier or from anyother place in the world is completely on DA. Moreover, the penalty clause will be applicable to DA and not DRAL. So your idea of crony capitalism seems a bit out of place.
 
actually all companies prefer to work with engineering and defence majors- like L&T and Tata as a local vendor. Only Dassault is exceptional. They wanted to tie up with Darshini Restaurant instead. Yes- it is very lucrative as a deal worth billions of USD and no one is interested. If that doesn't explain the fact that the process is rigged tthen nothing does.

They did try with Tata. Tata did not agree. Adani could not, because he was with SAAB. Mahindra was also talking with Saab and another company. Godrej wanted to remain in the components part. L&T was/is more interested in LCA and their shipbuilding. The earlier partner was Mukesh Ambani. But, they backed out to recalibrate the group focus to telecom, retail and petroleum.

As you can see, there are only so many business groups in India, which can manage. First you need to be able to pump in money for projects like these. With available business houses, Reliance was one of them.
 
Last G2G contract like C17 or C130's did not have any offsets. The question though arises that Dassault would choose R-naval engg at that time s there was no DRAl as a partner, a company that was formed for less than a week, with a horrible track record from Pipavav Shipyards, and financials in doldrums. That aspect for offsets seems to a windfall gains for Ambani , raising legitimate questions of cronyism.

Now for rest of the non-sense on the thread about drawing comparison of any private indian entity with behemoth like HAL, its just funny.

C-17 and C-130J had offsets.

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For private companies to compete with HAL, the SPM will have to start delivering.

But when it comes to Rafale, Dassault plans to set up a production line under DRAL by themselves, in case the IAF and IN order more Rafales. So Reliance will easily win the fighter jet SPM if that happens.
 
The question though arises that Dassault would choose R-naval engg at that time s there was no DRAl as a partner, a company that was formed for less than a week, with a horrible track record from Pipavav Shipyards, and financials in doldrums.

Different companies. Dassault had earlier chosen RIL. RIL backed out, then they went to Tata. L&T was more interested in LCA. Finally, it came to RInfra. ADAG as a group has good financials.
 
actually all companies prefer to work with engineering and defence majors- like L&T and Tata as a local vendor. Only Dassault is exceptional. They wanted to tie up with Darshini Restaurant instead. Yes- it is very lucrative as a deal worth billions of USD and no one is interested. If that doesn't explain the fact that the process is rigged tthen nothing does.

You need to realize that every organization needs to begin somewhere, there is always a first step. Punj Loyd was not a WW2 arms manufacturer to team up with IAI for the IWI Tavor either. Even TATA or L&T had to take the first step at some point, and their success in other fields of engineering need not necessarily mean they will succeed in everything they attempt at. When its a JV, you expect the foreign partner to take the lead and bring the best of their technology and practices, while the Indian partner brings in the infrastructure, money and manpower. Even the effort to improve the skill ff the staff is the responsibility of the foreign partner. While I have every bit of doubt I possibly can have on Anil's Reliance, I have every faith I can possibly gather on the capability and professionalism of DA. I do not doubt the capability of Tata - Lockheed, Mahindra - Boeing, and L&T but there is no reason to believe that DRAL will fail to do their part to improve the capabilities of our country in the aerospace industry. Besides, we all need to understand that DRAL is not going to be the only recipient of Rafale deal offsets. Be patient, give it time.
 
You need to realize that every organization needs to begin somewhere, there is always a first step. Punj Loyd was not a WW2 arms manufacturer to team up with IAI for the IWI Tavor either. Even TATA or L&T had to take the first step at some point, and their success in other fields of engineering need not necessarily mean they will succeed in everything they attempt at. When its a JV, you expect the foreign partner to take the lead and bring the best of their technology and practices, while the Indian partner brings in the infrastructure, money and manpower. Even the effort to improve the skill ff the staff is the responsibility of the foreign partner. While I have every bit of doubt I possibly can have on Anil's Reliance, I have every faith I can possibly gather on the capability and professionalism of DA. I do not doubt the capability of Tata - Lockheed, Mahindra - Boeing, and L&T but there is no reason to believe that DRAL will fail to do their part to improve the capabilities of our country in the aerospace industry. Besides, we all need to understand that DRAL is not going to be the only recipient of Rafale deal offsets. Be patient, give it time.

The Indian people don't have to subsidize Ambani taking first step to make a fighter plane.

HAL and Ambani Bandhu's business model are quite different.

HAL was part of the discussion to build 108 Rafale's - flying aircrafts in India under ToT (where the ToT would classify as offset)
Reliance infrastructure's Subsidiary - DRAL, is a JV for building sub-systems that Dassault deems fit to classify as offsets, it could be parts for rafales, or for falcon or even Jigs and fixtures for French plant. Aparently MoD has no say in it. Which is fine as it is for 36 aircrafts bought off the shelf.

Last G2G contract like C17 or C130's did not have any offsets. The question though arises that Dassault would choose R-naval engg at that time s there was no DRAl as a partner, a company that was formed for less than a week, with a horrible track record from Pipavav Shipyards, and financials in doldrums. That aspect for offsets seems to a windfall gains for Ambani , raising legitimate questions of cronyism.

Now for rest of the non-sense on the thread about drawing comparison of any private indian entity with behemoth like HAL, its just funny.

because relevant higher ups in the defence establishment were greased to persuade them that this is a deal to go with.

@vstol Jockey using your own logic- you are both capable and willing and deeply invested in building LSA- way more than any AMbani has been till date. but good luck getting a sweet deal like the Ambanis have got to set yourself up. GOI will fund you like AMbani for future of Indian defence...don't hold your breath and do hold on to your 200 crore in FD for the time being.
 
The Indian people don't have to subsidize Ambani taking first step to make a fighter plane.

It is not subsidizing when you get a product for the money you pay for. I don't think you are in any position to establish it as a loss or a win until the actual product is delivered. So all this big talks of scandal before the actual delivery of the offsets takes place is very juvenile or politically motivated. What is your knowledge about the offsets executed during the previous regime? What exactly was the quantum of offset execution in the Pilatus deal for basic trainers? The important factor here is to ensure the actual execution of offsets here, the noise about offset execution should be for all the previous deals we have made. Why is there no discussion about that? Why are majors like Boeing and Lockheed failing to comply with their offset contracts? All this non-sense discussion achieves only one thing, that is to defer the actual execution of contracts and to further cause loss to the nation. You think Boeing or LM won't recoup the fines we put on them for failing to execute offsets in future contracts? In most cases, we are failing while we think we are the real winner.

Good Day!
 
It is not subsidizing when you get a product for the money you pay for. I don't think you are in any position to establish it as a loss or a win until the actual product is delivered. So all this big talks of scandal before the actual delivery of the offsets takes place is very juvenile or politically motivated. What is your knowledge about the offsets executed during the previous regime? What exactly was the quantum of offset execution in the Pilatus deal for basic trainers? The important factor here is to ensure the actual execution of offsets here, the noise about offset execution should be for all the previous deals we have made. Why is there no discussion about that? Why are majors like Boeing and Lockheed failing to comply with their offset contracts? All this non-sense discussion achieves only one thing, that is to defer the actual execution of contracts and to further cause loss to the nation. You think Boeing or LM won't recoup the fines we put on them for failing to execute offsets in future contracts? In most cases, we are failing while we think we are the real winner.

Good Day!

yes, a person with no experience, no capital equipment and no training will definitely give it at the cheapest rate which Indian people are paying for,
 
yes, a person with no experience, no capital equipment and no training will definitely give it at the cheapest rate which Indian people are paying for,

What is your point here?

A Person with no experience?
These things are rectified by quality training and hiring experienced professionals. Anil Ambani doesn't need to know squat about aviation to own an aerospace company. One could easily hire one of the many retired Air Force/HAL management staff to do that job efficiently. You think some of the best airlines in the world are owned by Aviation experts?

No capital equipment?
Infrastructure and equipment are not something you can't develop after a deal is made. Every deal includes a lead time before the product is delivered. You think Tata/Mahindra had shiny hangar floors and precision equipment purchased and set up before they won any order? In the case of Tata, the factory was set up after the deal with Sikorsky was finalized. Then a training plan was delivered by a Sikorsky team to prepare the man power for the project. In all cases, foreign manufacturers demand a certain standard to be followed in terms of infrastructure and staff training before they accept the products from a manufacturer.

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The first cabin is scheduled for delivery in late 2010 from a new greenfield facility that TASL will construct at Hyderabad in the state of Andhra Pradesh. Tata Advanced Systems is a wholly owned subsidiary of Tata Sons and is a lead company for providing integrated solutions for aerospace, defence, homeland security and disaster management.

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no training?
How do you define someone as trained? Do you believe there is a difficulty in absorbing skilled man power in India? You need to understand that most of the foreign manufacturers mandate that every staff goes through job specific training designed by them to ensure quality of their products. If you think that Tata had hundreds of technicians in their payroll before they bagged their first contract, then I'm just wasting my time with you. From personal experience, it is easier to train a fresh graduate to a specific standard than to train someone coming out of a PSU culture.

will definitely give it at the cheapest rate?
I don't think you or me are in any position to judge that, there is a mechanism to examine the offset discharge process which will further gets scrutinized by CAG. For the moment, you don't even know the value of offset contracts that will be awarded to DRAL, do you?

Good Day!
 
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It is not subsidizing when you get a product for the money you pay for. I don't think you are in any position to establish it as a loss or a win until the actual product is delivered. So all this big talks of scandal before the actual delivery of the offsets takes place is very juvenile or politically motivated. What is your knowledge about the offsets executed during the previous regime? What exactly was the quantum of offset execution in the Pilatus deal for basic trainers? The important factor here is to ensure the actual execution of offsets here, the noise about offset execution should be for all the previous deals we have made. Why is there no discussion about that? Why are majors like Boeing and Lockheed failing to comply with their offset contracts? All this non-sense discussion achieves only one thing, that is to defer the actual execution of contracts and to further cause loss to the nation. You think Boeing or LM won't recoup the fines we put on them for failing to execute offsets in future contracts? In most cases, we are failing while we think we are the real winner.

Good Day!

Rafale-like controversies lower nation's esteem: Ex-Chief of Air Staff

KOLKATA: The political slugfest between the ruling NDA and the Opposition Congress over the multi-billion dollar Rafale fighter jet deal lowers the nation's prestige as the world is watching, former Chief of Air Staff Arup Raha said on Friday.

There could always be "something wrong or something right" in such big-ticket purchases, he said.

"Such Rafale-like controversies lower a nation's esteem as the world is watching. These are big-ticket purchases. Something may be wrong or something may be right," Raha told reporters on the sidelines of a defence seminar here.

The former CAS said such controversies were not good for the defence capability of a nation as the faith in the system would be lost.

"Everything is well-documented. There is nothing to hide. The stakeholders (government and the Opposition) may always organise a confidential meeting and discuss it," he said.

Rafale-like controversies lower nation's esteem: Ex-Chief of Air Staff
 
What is your point here?

A Person with no experience?
These things are rectified by quality training and hiring experienced professionals. Anil Ambani doesn't need to know squat about aviation to own an aerospace company. One could easily hire one of the many retired Air Force/HAL management staff to do that job efficiently. You think some of the best airlines in the world are owned by Aviation experts?

No capital equipment?
Infrastructure and equipment are not something you can't develop after a deal is made. Every deal includes a lead time before the product is delivered. You think Tata/Mahindra had shiny hangar floors and precision equipment purchased and set up before they won any order? In the case of Tata, the factory was set up after the deal with Sikorsky was finalized. Then a training plan was delivered by a Sikorsky team to prepare the man power for the project. In all cases, foreign manufacturers demand a certain standard to be followed in terms of infrastructure and staff training before they accept the products from a manufacturer.



no training?
How do you define someone as trained? Do you believe there is a difficulty in absorbing skilled man power in India? You need to understand that most of the foreign manufacturers mandate that every staff goes through job specific training designed by them to ensure quality of their products. If you think that Tata had hundreds of technicians in their payroll before they bagged their first contract, then I'm just wasting my time with you. From personal experience, it is easier to train a fresh graduate to a specific standard than to train someone coming out of a PSU culture.

will definitely give it at the cheapest rate?
I don't think you or me are in any position to judge that, there is a mechanism to examine the offset discharge process which will further gets scrutinized by CAG. For the moment, you don't even know the value of offset contracts that will be awarded to DRAL, do you?

Good Day!
Yeah that’s why it’s best not to talk about things you don’t know about
 
Rafale-like controversies lower nation's esteem: Ex-Chief of Air Staff

KOLKATA: The political slugfest between the ruling NDA and the Opposition Congress over the multi-billion dollar Rafale fighter jet deal lowers the nation's prestige as the world is watching, former Chief of Air Staff Arup Raha said on Friday.

There could always be "something wrong or something right" in such big-ticket purchases, he said.

"Such Rafale-like controversies lower a nation's esteem as the world is watching. These are big-ticket purchases. Something may be wrong or something may be right," Raha told reporters on the sidelines of a defence seminar here.

The former CAS said such controversies were not good for the defence capability of a nation as the faith in the system would be lost.

"Everything is well-documented. There is nothing to hide. The stakeholders (government and the Opposition) may always organise a confidential meeting and discuss it," he said.

Rafale-like controversies lower nation's esteem: Ex-Chief of Air Staff

Why would Congress or Rahul Gandhi care for the nation's esteem when they themselves lack it?
 
Why would Congress or Rahul Gandhi care for the nation's esteem when they themselves lack it?
Seriously, Modi government should start digging into corruption charges against RaGa and his family. There will be a lot to find. Maybe they are waiting for election fever to kick in high gear and then engage RaGa and Congress into a flood of corruption charges.
 
Seriously, Modi government should start digging into corruption charges against RaGa and his family. There will be a lot to find. Maybe they are waiting for election fever to kick in high gear and then engage RaGa and Congress into a flood of corruption charges.

That's a tactic to be used when you yourself have committed corruption. But when there's been no corruption from your side, and you attack the opposition's actual instances of corruption, then all you are doing is linking a genuine, scam-free deal with all the Congress era corruption you yourself attack.

The better plan was to get the IAF to engage, which the govt has done. And it has worked quite well.
 
The better plan was to get the IAF to engage, which the govt has done. And it has worked quite well.
It's not better. Getting Army/Navy/Airforce involved in politics is never a good choice. Not in our subcontinent. The purpose of armed forces is one and one only, to find the peaceful and diplomatic solution to disputes in foreign relations.
 
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It's not better. Getting Army/Navy/Airforce involved in politics is never a good choice. Not in our subcontinent. The purpose of armed forces is one and one only, to find the peaceful and diplomatic solution to disputes in foreign relations.

It can't be helped when the opposition has lost all sources of common sense and resorts to making only baseless attacks.
 
IAF chief defends Rafale, but looks towards Tejas for the long term

IAF chief defends Rafale, but looks towards Tejas for the long term
IAF will buy 250 Tejas Mark II, to operate 18 Tejas squadrons
Ajai Shukla | New Delhi Last Updated at September 13, 2018 07:34 IST

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With controversy swirling around the purchase of 36 Rafale fighters from France, the Indian Air Force (IAF) boss, Air Chief Marshal BS Dhanoa underlined on Wednesday the “two front threat” from China and Pakistan to argue that the Rafale is urgently needed.
“Pakistan has over 20 fighter squadrons, with upgraded F-16s and [it is] inducting JF-17s from China in large numbers. China has 1,700 fighters, including 800 fourth generation fighters. But we do not have the numbers, with fighter squadrons down to 31 from sanctioned 42,” said Dhanoa, addressing a seminar in New Delhi.

In this, Dhanoa was ironically on the same side as the opposition. Its main criticism of the government is that it purchased just 36 Rafale fighters (two squadrons), while cancelling an on-going tender for 126 fighters (six squadrons) that would have made up IAF squadron deficiencies to a greater degree.

Besides charging Prime Minister Narendra Modi with unilaterally downsizing the Rafale deal, the opposition is accusing the government of undermining “Make in India” by cancelling a plan to build 108 Rafales in Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL); and of “crony-capitalism” in allowing Anil Ambani’s Reliance Group to benefit from offset deals arising from the Rafale buy.

Dhanoa sought to explain the cancellation of the 126 Rafale deal by stating that the plan to build 108 of them in India had “reached an impasse due to irresolvable differences between Dassault Aviation and HAL.”

The basis for Dhanoa’s contention remains unclear, given that on March 25, 2015, just 17 days before Modi announced the new deal in Paris, Dassault chief executive officer, Eric Trappier, told the press in Delhi that there was agreement with HAL on sharing responsibilities. Trappier said: “I strongly believe that contract finalisation and signature would come very soon.”

The IAF presentation on Wednesday defended the price paid for the Rafale, stating that it included: “Most modern sensors, best in class weapons, state of art EW (electronic warfare) and enhanced survivability, India specific enhancements, better price terms, better overall delivery terms and timeline, better maintenance terms, longer industrial support commitment, additional warranty and longer PBL (performance based logistics) commitment.”

Stating that the government had on several earlier occasions undertaken “emergency purchase” of fighters, he cited the purchase of two MiG-23MF squadrons in 1983 to counter Pakistan’s new F-16s, two squadrons of Mirage 2000s in 1985 and then two squadrons of MiG-29s.

On Tuesday, the opposition had sharply condemned what it sees as the government’s use of servicing officers to defend the Rafale deal. “Totally exposed, the Government is now shooting from the shoulders of the brave men and women in uniform,” stated a joint press statement by Yashwant Sinha, Arun Shourie and Prashant Bhushan.

Buying 12 more Tejas squadrons
For the first time, the IAF indicated that retiring MiG-21 and MiG-27 squadrons would be replaced by the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), not by medium multi-role combat fighters (MMRCAs) like the Rafale.

Dhanoa said he was looking at inducting 12 squadrons of the Tejas Mark II fighter, in addition to two Tejas Mark I squadrons and four squadrons of an improved version, the Tejas Mark I-A, which are already being processed.

That would add up to 18 squadrons of Tejas fighters of all types, making it the IAF’s most numerous aircraft, even more than the 13 squadrons of Sukhoi-30MKI fighters.

The first Tejas squadron, called the “Flying Daggers”, is already being populated with Mark I fighters as they roll off HAL’s production line – albeit far more slowly than planned.

The Tejas Mark I-A is currently under development with five specified improvements over the Mark I. These include an“active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, an air-to-air missile with “beyond visual range” (BVR) capability, a “self-protection jammer”, air-to-air refuelling capability, and a sophisticated “software defined radio” (SDR). The defence ministry has initiated an order for 83 Mark 1-A fighters.

The Tejas Mark II is planned as a far more capable fighter, with its current General Electric (GE) F-404 engine being replaced by a more powerful GE F-414 engine, and a new generation of avionics developed in India. It will also feature a new-generation data-link – which could be the NATO standard Link 16, which India is now eligible to buy after signing the COMCASA communications security agreement with the US.

Dhanoa made it clear that implementing these capability improvements were a pre-condition for more IAF orders for the Tejas.

The IAF has also initiated the procurement of another 114 medium fighters from the global market, a tender in which the F-16, F/A-18, MiG-35, Rafale, Gripen E and Eurofighter Typhoon are competing. The bulk of those fighters are to be built in India under the Strategic Partner model.
 
Any major defence deal in this benighted city, crawling with defence agents, fixers, corporate lobbyists and self-styled ‘subjantawalas’ (know-alls) is bound to be called a scam. In the post-Bofors decades, every government has spun more complex layers of procedures to escape just such an opprobrium. None has succeeded in achieving such immunity, and none can. The Modi government had the opportunity to change this with transparency, disclosure and engagement. It has blown it.

There’s a humongous scam in the Rafale deal. It is called stupidity
 
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IAF chief defends Rafale, but looks towards Tejas for the long term

IAF chief defends Rafale, but looks towards Tejas for the long term
IAF will buy 250 Tejas Mark II, to operate 18 Tejas squadrons
Ajai Shukla | New Delhi Last Updated at September 13, 2018 07:34 IST

1536607960-2972.jpg



With controversy swirling around the purchase of 36 Rafalefighters from France, the Indian Air Force(IAF) boss, Air Chief Marshal BS Dhanoaunderlined on Wednesday the “two front threat” from China and Pakistan to argue that the Rafaleis urgently needed.
“Pakistan has over 20 fighter squadrons, with upgraded F-16s and [it is] inducting JF-17s from China in large numbers. China has 1,700 fighters, including 800 fourth generation fighters. But we do not have the numbers, with fighter squadrons down to 31 from sanctioned 42,” said Dhanoa, addressing a seminar in New Delhi.

In this, Dhanoa was ironically on the same side as the opposition. Its main criticism of the government is that it purchased just 36 Rafalefighters (two squadrons), while cancelling an on-going tender for 126 fighters (six squadrons) that would have made up IAF squadron deficiencies to a greater degree.

Besides charging Prime Minister Narendra Modi with unilaterally downsizing the Rafale deal, the opposition is accusing the government of undermining “Make in India” by cancelling a plan to build 108 Rafales in Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL); and of “crony-capitalism” in allowing Anil Ambani’s Reliance Group to benefit from offset deals arising from the Rafale buy.

Dhanoa sought to explain the cancellation of the 126 Rafale deal by stating that the plan to build 108 of them in India had “reached an impasse due to irresolvable differences between Dassault Aviation and HAL.”

The basis for Dhanoa’s contention remains unclear, given that on March 25, 2015, just 17 days before Modi announced the new deal in Paris, Dassault chief executive officer, Eric Trappier, told the press in Delhi that there was agreement with HAL on sharing responsibilities. Trappier said: “I strongly believe that contract finalisation and signature would come very soon.”

The IAF presentation on Wednesday defended the price paid for the Rafale, stating that it included: “Most modern sensors, best in class weapons, state of art EW (electronic warfare) and enhanced survivability, India specific enhancements, better price terms, better overall delivery terms and timeline, better maintenance terms, longer industrial support commitment, additional warranty and longer PBL (performance based logistics) commitment.”

Stating that the government had on several earlier occasions undertaken “emergency purchase” of fighters, he cited the purchase of two MiG-23MF squadrons in 1983 to counter Pakistan’s new F-16s, two squadrons of Mirage 2000s in 1985 and then two squadrons of MiG-29s.

On Tuesday, the opposition had sharply condemned what it sees as the government’s use of servicing officers to defend the Rafale deal. “Totally exposed, the Government is now shooting from the shoulders of the brave men and women in uniform,” stated a joint press statement by Yashwant Sinha, Arun Shourie and Prashant Bhushan.

Buying 12 more Tejas squadrons
For the first time, the IAF indicated that retiring MiG-21 and MiG-27 squadrons would be replaced by the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), not by medium multi-role combat fighters (MMRCAs) like the Rafale.

Dhanoa said he was looking at inducting 12 squadrons of the Tejas Mark IIfighter, in addition to two Tejas Mark I squadrons and four squadrons of an improved version, the Tejas Mark I-A, which are already being processed.

That would add up to 18 squadrons of Tejas fighters of all types, making it the IAF’s most numerous aircraft, even more than the 13 squadrons of Sukhoi-30MKI fighters.

The first Tejas squadron, called the “Flying Daggers”, is already being populated with Mark I fighters as they roll off HAL’s production line – albeit far more slowly than planned.

The Tejas Mark I-A is currently under development with five specified improvements over the Mark I. These include an“active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, an air-to-air missile with “beyond visual range” (BVR) capability, a “self-protection jammer”, air-to-air refuelling capability, and a sophisticated “software defined radio” (SDR). The defence ministry has initiated an order for 83 Mark 1-A fighters.

The Tejas Mark IIis planned as a far more capable fighter, with its current General Electric (GE) F-404 engine being replaced by a more powerful GE F-414 engine, and a new generation of avionics developed in India. It will also feature a new-generation data-link – which could be the NATO standard Link 16, which India is now eligible to buy after signing the COMCASA communications security agreement with the US.

Dhanoa made it clear that implementing these capability improvements were a pre-condition for more IAF orders for the Tejas.

The IAF has also initiated the procurement of another 114 medium fighters from the global market, a tender in which the F-16, F/A-18, MiG-35, Rafale, Gripen E and Eurofighter Typhoon are competing. The bulk of those fighters are to be built in India under the Strategic Partner model.
2 (or 3) Tejas for 1 Rafale may be a smart choice.