Which is the reason we're developing HCM - Hypersonic Cruise Missiles. Now come back here when you've developed an ADS to counter that.
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The MKIs , some 40 nos of them were configured to carry the Brahmos A irrespective whether it was N tipped or conventionally armed which given the fact we've advertised the Brahmos will be exclusively for conventional roles provides it with the cover it needs to go about its business of training & carrying out such missions without arousing much suspicion .
While this role was initially the remit of the Jaguars & possibly the Mirage 2000s , please remember that was the case in the 80s , 90s & early 2000s. Are we to believe the Jaguars will still be the preferred FA to carry out a N strike role in the present day when its own survival in an ADS dense environment given the advances in the latter systems especially the proliferation of MANPADS , isn't guaranteed ? What this garbage & illogical nonsense am I reading here ?
Since late 2000s once we had a critical mass of the MKIs & substantial knowledge not only in the production of the Brahmos but also autonomy in its mfg & use as well as ways & means to use it in terms of tactics , did we proceed with the mating of the Brahmos with the MKI .
See it as part of the Cold Start Doctrine or as an independent move to provide our security managers options for a decapitation strike which as our NSAs including DMs like MP clarified doesn't contradict our NFU. It's the perfect deception if ever there was one for we probably don't intend to use it with a N armed warhead except in case of Paxtan & there too only for a N decapitation strike.
Do also remember these were the pre Doklam & Galwan days where our MEA babooos didn't see China as a threat not that we still have a decapitation strike program for the Chinese , nor will we . For them it's N deterrence , MAD to a limited extent & BMD for the future .
In fact after the fright , Fauji Foundation gave Obummer when they dispersed their nukes across the country & the US persuaded the former to accept their help & technical expertise in securing these nukes from falling into the wrong hands I've my doubts on the efficacy of our little decapitation project but in the absence of a viable alternative we will retain the option however low the chances of success till we come across something better .
At that point in time namely the 2000s & early 2010s what exactly did we have in our arsenal in case we decided to prosecute a decapitation strike ? All the missiles we could've potentially deployed were on were on the drawing board then be it the Rudrams or the HCM or any other analogue you can think of .
There's no rejection by the IAF when it comes to Nat Sec needs which is what the N - air strike role of the MKIs & possibly the Rafales under the SFC will call for , if need be.
The reason they've a dual role for those FAs identified for potential N air strike role is precisely the reason the incumbent ACM went to the press & publicly wailed about , namely , a shortage of squadrons in the IAF. Hence dual roles .
The reason the MKIs have been based in Thanjavur is also the range of the MKIs are formidable & among the best of our fleet of FAs plus there's the element of safety given the distance from Paxtan & most importantly that of deception. Do also note the distance from Challekere to Thanjavur assuming we're now mfg our N weapons & storing them there .
While this role was initially the remit of the Jaguars & possibly the Mirage 2000s , please remember that was the case in the 80s , 90s & early 2000s. Are we to believe the Jaguars will still be the preferred FA to carry out a N strike role in the present day when its own survival in an ADS dense environment given the advances in the latter systems especially the proliferation of MANPADS , isn't guaranteed ? What this garbage & illogical nonsense am I reading here ?
Since late 2000s once we had a critical mass of the MKIs & substantial knowledge not only in the production of the Brahmos but also autonomy in its mfg & use as well as ways & means to use it in terms of tactics , did we proceed with the mating of the Brahmos with the MKI .
See it as part of the Cold Start Doctrine or as an independent move to provide our security managers options for a decapitation strike which as our NSAs including DMs like MP clarified doesn't contradict our NFU. It's the perfect deception if ever there was one for we probably don't intend to use it with a N armed warhead except in case of Paxtan & there too only for a N decapitation strike.
Do also remember these were the pre Doklam & Galwan days where our MEA babooos didn't see China as a threat not that we still have a decapitation strike program for the Chinese , nor will we . For them it's N deterrence , MAD to a limited extent & BMD for the future .
In fact after the fright , Fauji Foundation gave Obummer when they dispersed their nukes across the country & the US persuaded the former to accept their help & technical expertise in securing these nukes from falling into the wrong hands I've my doubts on the efficacy of our little decapitation project but in the absence of a viable alternative we will retain the option however low the chances of success till we come across something better .
At that point in time namely the 2000s & early 2010s what exactly did we have in our arsenal in case we decided to prosecute a decapitation strike ? All the missiles we could've potentially deployed were on were on the drawing board then be it the Rudrams or the HCM or any other analogue you can think of .
There's no rejection by the IAF when it comes to Nat Sec needs which is what the N - air strike role of the MKIs & possibly the Rafales under the SFC will call for , if need be.
The reason they've a dual role for those FAs identified for potential N air strike role is precisely the reason the incumbent ACM went to the press & publicly wailed about , namely , a shortage of squadrons in the IAF. Hence dual roles .
The reason the MKIs have been based in Thanjavur is also the range of the MKIs are formidable & among the best of our fleet of FAs plus there's the element of safety given the distance from Paxtan & most importantly that of deception. Do also note the distance from Challekere to Thanjavur assuming we're now mfg our N weapons & storing them there .
For now, China's answer to most hypersonic missiles is the HQ-19, which, as you can see, is much smaller in diameter than the HQ9 and could easily fit on existing destroyers
Is this the type of missile you're talking about? This is just a simple concept map and is far from being implemented
Unlike Indiastill supports the S400, the Chinese ridiculed the S400 and mocked the CCP, arguing that the weapon China used to defend its capital was easily destroyed on the battlefield
The Black Sea Fleet agrees with you, even though they have lost more than half of their landing ships, Storm Shadow missiles frequent Crimea, ATACMS have destroyed a large number of the Black Sea Fleet flanker fighters, as well as the S400 deployed at the airfield
Oof, MKI is not capable of nuclear strike. If it's ever given that status, they will announce it. MKI doesn't have the required EMC rating for it either.
SFC's only air-launched systems are based on gravity bombs. And only Jag and M2000 are certified to carry them. Jag has superior penetration capabilities compared to the MKI anyway.
And the IAF is not dumb enough to allow nukes on the MKI either.
SFC's only air-launched systems are based on gravity bombs. And only Jag and M2000 are certified to carry them. Jag has superior penetration capabilities compared to the MKI anyway.
And the IAF is not dumb enough to allow nukes on the MKI either.
The battlefield has proven that the S400 only has a long range on paper, but its radar performance does not support its detection of stealth targets, the Russian army lacks adequate training to support it against ballistic missiles, and most S400 battalions do not deploy the 64N6 radar for anti-missile purposes
Is that why PLAAF brought S-400 to LAC?
Ignorant people can mock it all they want, but the S-400 is doing exceedingly well in an environment that is extremely bad for SAMs.
The Black Sea Fleet, or the Russian navy in general, does not have sophisticated ships. Most of their financial and technological effort has gone into SSNs. And their most modern ships today just number 3 in total and all 3 are in the Arctic. By the end of the decade, they will only have 10. Their naval modernization was planned for 2030+.
Furthermore, as already mentioned, Ukraine is bolstered by NATO AWACS and drone patrols over the Black Sea that the Russians cannot attack.
I agree that Russia suffers from lack of training. This is a force-wide problem for them.
But they have intercepted both HiMARS and ATACMS in large numbers.
And it's a reality of war that losses are inevitable, especially when Russia has more AD deployed than Ukraine. It's illogical to think that you won't see losses in 3 years of war. Similarly Ukraine has lost Patriots too, even though the numbers are very small and are much more easily hidden.
Apart from Indian media, there is no video or photo showing the S400 deployed on the India-China border
If the S400 had performed well, we wouldn't have been hearing so much about Ukraine's massive damage to Crimea in the past two years
Training is just the tip of the iceberg, Russia lacks AEW&C early warning for stealth missiles, and radar performance is poor
In the face of high-altitude attack ATACMS, the S400 system is not much better than the S300PMU2, the highest launch height of its missiles is only 22KM, only one intercept opportunity in the face of ballistic missiles, and most S400 battalions do not have long-range early warning radar, which increases the difficulty of interception
When you're dealing with a country with almost no navy, there's no problem with old equipment. The problem with the Black Sea Fleet is that training is extremely poor, fighting ideas are rigid, and ships are basically never maintained
Otherwise a 10,000-ton main cruiser wouldn't have been sunk by two subsonic missiles
You really didn't understand what is deter is.
When PAF had fired AIM 120 c at mki, it deter MKI from going offense, that doesn't means that those missile will hit us with 100% certainty if the jet goes offensive & get close to PAF f16.
No weapon can provide absolute deterrence. The disadvantage of the R77 over the AIM120 is not insurmountable. If Indian pilots can use proper tactics, they can defeat the F16C
The decisive element of victory in war is man
Why does India maintain an N-triad at high cost to the exchequer? Because redundancy is key for deterrence. The Jag and M-2000 are well past their prime. There's no reason why the MKI can't take on the role when its contemporaries like the F-15 (based in the UK, Germany and elsewhere) are a key part of NATOs nuclear insurance against Russia. MKI certainly has the range, payload and endurance for such a mission+ lt's a two-seater. There are no treaties between us and our rivals that require us to disclose which IAF assets are nuke-capable so there's no point in making it public.
Why would the Chinese report it, and why will photos be made available when there was potential for war?
As I said, it's a transparent battlefield. The Russians cannot attack American and NATo JSTAR aircraft, which provide intelligence to Ukraine without putting Ukrainian surveillance assets at risk. If you are being watched 24/7, then it's obvious attacks will eventually get through.
In a war with NATO, the Russians would be attacking these systems.
If you're expecting us to believe that China's come up with an answer as you put it to hypersonic missiles over the US & the west , it's not happening . Maybe 3-4 decades later you'd be at the cutting edge of defence initiating state of the art projects , if CCP lasts that long .
Are you still using Baidu translate in spite of me telling you to use Google translate especially since you're using a VPN to escape the firewall in Zhongguo to log in here ?
Let me inform you one of these days WW-3 will be ignited only coz of a miscommunication courtesy Baidu (mis) translate.
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Sure. They had failed to modernize in time. Their air force modernization was planned for 2030-35.
You are confusing BMD with SAM. S-500 will give them tactical BMD.
The S-400 doesn't need long range radar, 400-600 km is enough. The Patriot's radar has even shorter range. I think you are confused between SAM and BMD.
Russian ships do not have advanced defenses against modern cruise missiles.
India identified the same thing in the 90s. We lacked the ability to defeat the Harpoon, that's why we bought the Israeli Barak 1 for many of our ships, followed by Barak 8.
Currently, the Russians have 3 frigates with Shtil-1, which is decent against Harpoon class missiles. And only 3 other frigates with Redut, which can defeat modern missiles. The rest of their fleet is ancient.
Their destroyers have Tor class systems, and their cruisers are the same as the Chinese, old, heavy semi-active missiles, plus no AESA radar. Modern long range SAMs weigh between 150-250 kg, or even 450 kg with booster, and come with IIR or active seekers, but Russian and Chinese missiles on their ships weigh 1-2 tons. These missiles are not sufficient for air defense. At least the Russians are modernizing faster than the Chinese with Shtil-1 and Redut.
Frankly, the RFNs goose is well and truly cooked. The US-led sanctions have disrupted the supply of COTS Western components that went into many of their radars, including the Redut's AESA FCR.
Until they can feild local equivalents, their fleet is vulnerable to air/missile attack.