Shivalik-class & Nilgiri-class (Project 17 A/B) Frigates : Discussions

Ashwin said:
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I don't get why the IN insists on calling these 'stealth frigates'! An angled hull alone doesn't make a ship stealthy. The Russians probably used this ship as a test case for RCS reduction but the topside design, especially that lattice mast, beats the whole purpose.

She may have been designed in the late 90s but even the IN's Delhi class are the same vintage. The least we could have done is ask for an enclosed mast like on the newer Grigorivich class. Hopefully, we'll move to an integrated mast soon enough and clean up the aesthetics a bit. Sorry about the rant!
 
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Speedster1 said:
I don't get why the IN insists on calling these 'stealth frigates'! An angled hull alone doesn't make a ship stealthy. The Russians probably used this ship as a test case for RCS reduction but the topside design, especially that lattice mast, beats the whole purpose.

She may have been designed in the late 90s but even the IN's Delhi class are the same vintage. The least we could have done is ask for an enclosed mast like on the newer Grigorivich class. Hopefully, we'll move to an integrated mast soon enough and clean up the aesthetics a bit. Sorry about the rant!
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'Cause it has the RCS of a fishing boat.
 
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It's a partial stealth frigate at best. Look at the cluttered top side. The reason is say this is because practically every naval vessel, from the FACs to large cruisers, has a sloped hull these days.
The standard for 'stealth' has evolved considerably since these ships were built.

Back in the day, the Lafayette was the last word in stealth design or even the Visby class. The Talwar was probably designed to a different set of requirements but it doesn't qualify to be called a stealth frigate, not in today's times.
 
Unit costs should drop below the $1bn mark imo, once we start localizing the radar and weapons fit on our upcoming DDG/FFG/corvettes.

Since electronics and weapons constitute >60% of the cost of naval ships.
 
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Glad to note that the NCG is projected as a 5000t class ship. Should be a perfect replacement for the Talwars and Brahmaputras in due course.

In fact, we should extend the NGC production run to 8+10+3 imo so that we won't be stuck if Zorya Mashproekt, the Ukranian engine-manufacturer goes up in smoke.

Also, it's more cost effective to buy new NCGs rather than re-engine the Brahmaputra class. Those ladies have earned their rest.
 
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