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I cant find too many pics of scars or kriss vectors
must be because they were bought in small quantity
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I cant find too many pics of scars or kriss vectors
must be because they were bought in small quantity
That's right.
There were a few phots(maybe 3-4 photos) from about a year back when the NSG was giving a presentation of their weapons to Kiren Rijiju where there were multiple SCARs on the table and Rijiju standing with a Vector in his hands, there was also pics of him firing a MPX. You can find it if you search his twitter.
Here's another one.
NSG 51st SAG, I think. FN Herstal SCAR-L with Aimpoint Comp M4. Pic credit on photo.
Depending on the type of wood, cheaper. Unfortunate if it is just an SMLE bedded on a stock. OFB should move to a mauser action for bolt action rifles.
Indian army does possess some mauser Sp66, right
bdw its @PORKY---eater
mods asked me to change handlw
I know very little about bolt action rifles. So what's the difference between Lee Enfield SMLE action and Mauser action ? I've heard people say the SMLE has one of the smoothest actions among bolt action rifles. so what's wrong with it ?
Mauser actions have the locking lugs just behind the bolt head, while lee enfield is more of a two piece bolt with the locking lugs behind the bolt head. Mauser actions will handle higher pressures, last longer, Lee-Enfield are known to headspace issues over use, a bit like Mosin bolt.
More of the OFB 7.62x51 from CISF Sniper school.
Hey look, the cheek rest is adjustable. I thought it wasn't, although the recoil of a 7.62x51 NATO round transfering to your cheek through a sharp piece of wood won't feel that great. Some rubber padding will go a long way.
Hey look, the cheek rest is adjustable. I thought it wasn't, although the recoil of a 7.62x51 NATO round transfering to your cheek through a sharp piece of wood won't feel that great. Some rubber padding will go a long way.
Yeh dekhiye birathers,
nayi umang,
nayi asha,
naya naya hai yeh chutiyapa.
Sniper rifles for Indian Army delayed as 20 firms offer weapon, but none make ammunition
Indian Army is now looking to scrap the RFI and start afresh its hunt for 5,700 high-precision sniper rifles, at an estimated cost of Rs 982 crore.
Amrita Nayak Dutta, Updated: 17 June, 2019 11:39 am IST
A sniper rifle produced by Steelcore Designs (representational image) | Steelcore Designs
New Delhi: The Indian Army’s wait for much-needed sniper rifles just got longer, with the procurement process hitting a glitch: 20 firms replied to the Army’s request for information (RFI), floated last year, but none of them manufacture the ammunition.
The absence of ammunition-manufacturing capacity is seen as a major drawback because the Army was looking to secure technology transfer under the final deal for the seamless operation of the rifles in the long run, ThePrint has learnt.
The Army is now looking to scrap the RFI and start afresh its hunt for 5,700 high-precision sniper rifles, at an estimated cost of Rs 982 crore, highly-placed sources in the defence establishment told ThePrint.
The possible options for a new procurement process include floating two separate RFIs — one for procuring sniper rifles and the other for ammunition, the sources said.
“Or the existing RFI could be tweaked to include a clause that the interested firms should manufacture ammunition as well, and also subsequently transfer the technology to India,” a top Army source said, adding that a final decision on the matter is yet to be taken.
Only once this stage is finalised will the Army issue a request for proposal (RFP), the second stage in such transactions, detailing the specifications required.
The transfer of technology question
In February last year, the Defence Acquisition Council approved the purchase of sniper rifles for the Army and the Indian Air Force at an estimated cost of Rs 982 crore.
“While these high-precision weapons will be bought with ‘Buy Global’ categorisation, their ammunition will be initially procured and subsequently manufactured in India,” the Defence Ministry said in a statement issued last year.
There were 12-13 foreign firms among the 20 that replied to the 2018 RFI, ThePrint has learnt, with the respondents including Sako of Finland, H-S Precision of the US, Steelcore Designs Limited of the UK, PGM Precision of France, and Punj Lloyd Raksha Systems, a joint venture between Indian defence conglomerate Punj Lloyd and Israel Weapons Industries.
Also read: Indian Army deploys US-, Italy-trained snipers with deadly new rifles along LoC
However, after evaluating the firms, the authorities found that none had the capability to manufacture the ammunition.
“Ammunition is a crucial requirement for sniper rifles, because even if the firms procured ammunition from elsewhere later, they would not be able to transfer the technology to India,” another Army source told ThePrint.
‘Much delay unlikely’
The Army is looking to procure sniper rifles amid an increased threat of sniper attacks along the Line of Control as well as to seek a tactical advantage over enemies sighted at a distance.
While procurement of defence equipment is usually a long-drawn process, with multiple steps and thorough evaluations, sources in the defence establishment said that the purchase of high-precision sniper rifles was part of a modernisation plan and unlikely to face much delay.
“The troops are being provided with sniper rifles at the borders. This one is for the entire forces and will take the minimum standard time,” one of the aforementioned Army sources said. “The first batch will be delivered after two years.”
With the larger procurement taking time, the Northern Army Commander made an urgent purchase this March of two new advanced sniper rifles — Barrett M95 .50 BMG and Beretta Scorpio TGT ‘Victrix’, with .338 Lapua Magnum cartridges — through his special financial powers.
However, the numbers procured were a blip compared to those required.
Explaining the significance of sniper rifles, a senior Army officer said the long-range weapon equipped with a telescopic sight can be used to cause substantial damage to the enemy and demoralise them. They can also be used in counter-terror operations to eliminate top terror commanders while staying in stealth, the officer added.
“Sniper attacks are characterised by surprise and provide an element of anonymity,” the official added. “The enemy or an important target can be hit in a single shot, but such firing requires extreme stability and patience for hours together.”
“Sniper rifles can be used to inflict casualties without escalating the conflict,” the official said.
The difference between a standard rifle and a sniper rifle is the precision, with the latter having a small error margin.
Also read: Indian Army’s new sniper rifle paired with old improvisation tactics will turn tables at LoC
Since the 1990s, the Army has been using the Soviet-era Dragunov sniper rifle of 1963 vintage, which uses a 7.62×54 mm rimmed cartridge and has a range of 600 to 800 metres. However, the focus has since shifted to night vision and better accuracy.
The RFI issued by the Army’s Infantry Directorate in 2018 took into account these factors, seeking 8.6X70 mm sniper rifles with a range of at least 1,200 metres, and 10.2 million rounds of ammunition.
Sniper rifles for Indian Army delayed as 20 firms offer weapon, but none make ammunition
nayi umang,
nayi asha,
naya naya hai yeh chutiyapa.
Sniper rifles for Indian Army delayed as 20 firms offer weapon, but none make ammunition
Indian Army is now looking to scrap the RFI and start afresh its hunt for 5,700 high-precision sniper rifles, at an estimated cost of Rs 982 crore.
Amrita Nayak Dutta, Updated: 17 June, 2019 11:39 am IST
A sniper rifle produced by Steelcore Designs (representational image) | Steelcore Designs
New Delhi: The Indian Army’s wait for much-needed sniper rifles just got longer, with the procurement process hitting a glitch: 20 firms replied to the Army’s request for information (RFI), floated last year, but none of them manufacture the ammunition.
The absence of ammunition-manufacturing capacity is seen as a major drawback because the Army was looking to secure technology transfer under the final deal for the seamless operation of the rifles in the long run, ThePrint has learnt.
The Army is now looking to scrap the RFI and start afresh its hunt for 5,700 high-precision sniper rifles, at an estimated cost of Rs 982 crore, highly-placed sources in the defence establishment told ThePrint.
The possible options for a new procurement process include floating two separate RFIs — one for procuring sniper rifles and the other for ammunition, the sources said.
“Or the existing RFI could be tweaked to include a clause that the interested firms should manufacture ammunition as well, and also subsequently transfer the technology to India,” a top Army source said, adding that a final decision on the matter is yet to be taken.
Only once this stage is finalised will the Army issue a request for proposal (RFP), the second stage in such transactions, detailing the specifications required.
The transfer of technology question
In February last year, the Defence Acquisition Council approved the purchase of sniper rifles for the Army and the Indian Air Force at an estimated cost of Rs 982 crore.
“While these high-precision weapons will be bought with ‘Buy Global’ categorisation, their ammunition will be initially procured and subsequently manufactured in India,” the Defence Ministry said in a statement issued last year.
There were 12-13 foreign firms among the 20 that replied to the 2018 RFI, ThePrint has learnt, with the respondents including Sako of Finland, H-S Precision of the US, Steelcore Designs Limited of the UK, PGM Precision of France, and Punj Lloyd Raksha Systems, a joint venture between Indian defence conglomerate Punj Lloyd and Israel Weapons Industries.
Also read: Indian Army deploys US-, Italy-trained snipers with deadly new rifles along LoC
However, after evaluating the firms, the authorities found that none had the capability to manufacture the ammunition.
“Ammunition is a crucial requirement for sniper rifles, because even if the firms procured ammunition from elsewhere later, they would not be able to transfer the technology to India,” another Army source told ThePrint.
‘Much delay unlikely’
The Army is looking to procure sniper rifles amid an increased threat of sniper attacks along the Line of Control as well as to seek a tactical advantage over enemies sighted at a distance.
While procurement of defence equipment is usually a long-drawn process, with multiple steps and thorough evaluations, sources in the defence establishment said that the purchase of high-precision sniper rifles was part of a modernisation plan and unlikely to face much delay.
“The troops are being provided with sniper rifles at the borders. This one is for the entire forces and will take the minimum standard time,” one of the aforementioned Army sources said. “The first batch will be delivered after two years.”
With the larger procurement taking time, the Northern Army Commander made an urgent purchase this March of two new advanced sniper rifles — Barrett M95 .50 BMG and Beretta Scorpio TGT ‘Victrix’, with .338 Lapua Magnum cartridges — through his special financial powers.
However, the numbers procured were a blip compared to those required.
Explaining the significance of sniper rifles, a senior Army officer said the long-range weapon equipped with a telescopic sight can be used to cause substantial damage to the enemy and demoralise them. They can also be used in counter-terror operations to eliminate top terror commanders while staying in stealth, the officer added.
“Sniper attacks are characterised by surprise and provide an element of anonymity,” the official added. “The enemy or an important target can be hit in a single shot, but such firing requires extreme stability and patience for hours together.”
“Sniper rifles can be used to inflict casualties without escalating the conflict,” the official said.
The difference between a standard rifle and a sniper rifle is the precision, with the latter having a small error margin.
Also read: Indian Army’s new sniper rifle paired with old improvisation tactics will turn tables at LoC
Since the 1990s, the Army has been using the Soviet-era Dragunov sniper rifle of 1963 vintage, which uses a 7.62×54 mm rimmed cartridge and has a range of 600 to 800 metres. However, the focus has since shifted to night vision and better accuracy.
The RFI issued by the Army’s Infantry Directorate in 2018 took into account these factors, seeking 8.6X70 mm sniper rifles with a range of at least 1,200 metres, and 10.2 million rounds of ammunition.
Sniper rifles for Indian Army delayed as 20 firms offer weapon, but none make ammunition
OFB 7.62x51mm Sniper Rifle with a 6x Riflescope in service with Indian Forces built for Police and Law-Enforcement Agencies. The design has been derived from SIG Sauer 200 STR Sniper Rifle and is in service with CRPF, CISF, AR, Tamil Nadu, Rajasthan, Kolkata and Karnataka Police.
Specs:
1. Length Of Weapon – 1120 mm (without flash suppressor)
2. Weight Of Weapon – 6.7 Kg
3. Effective Range – 800-1000 metres
4. Length Of Barrel – 680 mm (Hard Chrome)
5. Grooves – 04
6. Turn of Grooves – 304.8 mm in one turn
7. Bolt Mechanism – Direct Locking with barrel
8. Magazine Capacity – 06 rounds (with push button quick release)
9. Safety Mechanism –Quick action engage & release
10. Sighting System – Day Light Telescope with variable magnification 3-12×50. Cross wire with mill dots, illuminated reticules , Quick detachable under mount on over body Pica Tiny Rail 1913 STD
11. Bipod – World Standard tilt adjustment smooth leg Bipod with quick detachable under stock Pica Tiny rail mount 1913 STD
12. Cheek Plate – Height Adjustable cheek place provided
13. Trigger Mechanism – Adjustable trigger mechanism with trigger. Wt adjustment from 500 gm to 1.5 Kg and first pull adjustment provided
14. Flash Suppressor – Optional
15. Price- ₹208000 (+GST)
Taken from the internet.
Yes, and the ban was very, very effective. Almost nothing German ended up in the hands of the Saudi's from either primary or secondary sources. But that's changing and Germany is again looking to increase arms sales to Saudi Arabia. But still not India.
Norwegian modified and Norwegian owned. The HK416S isn't a designation or rifle used outside of Norway. It was a modification done by Norwegian Army gunsmiths on standard HK416Ns.
Former - combat search and rescue. What I do now is anyone's guess
. I still have connections to the military, have seen opportunities to travel to various hot spots including Mali and Afghanistan, but am not part of my nation's armed forces at this time. I recently moved on from a comfy job as a programmer for a defence contractor.You'd think ammo would be one of the first requirements and supplies you flesh out. During our DMR and sniper procurement programs early on the condition for a .338 round was set, alongside .308. Russian body armor is some of the best around today. It's superb. Heavy rounds are needed to cleave through it first time, every time. Almost any rifle of those calibers can do the job though so picking a rifle wasn't necessarily based on performance, but a reliable supplier for ammo is a must. Fortunately for use we actually own one of the largest ammo makers, NAMMO, so licencing or producing our own variants isn't difficult, but it's a surprise to see that India is have an issue with this. It should have been step one, even before having the rifles.
Eventually we chose to go with the HK417 as our DMR, good synergy with our HK416N and HK416K infantry rifles, and the Barrett MRAD, whose manufacturer also makes our 12.7mm anti-material rifles.
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Yep.
Indian Army Sniper, armed with a SP-66 Rifle with Zeiss diavari za 1.5-6x42 scope. Before the induction of Victrix Scorpio and M95 Sniper Rifles in limited quantities, IA heavily relied on SP-66 for dedicated Snipers along with SVD Dragunovs for DMRs.
The rifle uses the short action with a very fast lock time, which is critical for accurate shooting. The rifle has a high reputation for being extremely accurate, and comfortable to shoot, though the wood stock and other older features make it less applicable to modern sniping.
Special Group aka 4 VIKAS SpeOps with an FN Herstal P90TR Triple Rail PDW with Aimpoint Micro H1 Red Dot Sight and Tactical Flashlight. Besides P90, SG uses many other weapons like SCAR, Tavor, MPX, SIG-716, Galil ACE and AKM. The sheer variety !
Changed account again ? Log in troubles ?
The interesting thing about the pics you posted is that belt like thing that runs from the suppressor to the objective of the scope. If I am to guess, I'd say its to prevent degradation of sight picture quality caused by heat haze after the barrel heats up. Its an unique approach(at least to me). Is this a standard NATO practice or is it just the Norwegians ?
BTW we are more simplistic, our guys just wrap it up.
Barrett M98B (.338 Lapua Mag.) sniper with Leupold mk4 Scope & Barrett BORS(Barrett Optical Ranging System).
You guys don't seem to use ballistic calculators. I wonder why. Does it not come with the MRAD, or is it a conscious choice ?
We have a never ending number of snipers for example :
On the smaller caliber side we have this : VSK-94 Silenced Sniper Rifle with the subsonic 9x39mm round.
Primarily used by the Navy, although the Army does borrow it sometimes.
Of course the Army has a veritable zoo of weapons, like the IWI Galil sniper
On the DMR side we continue using the SVD Dragunov. Ah.......Dragunov, our love for it never ends. Its nauseating sometimes.
On the heavy side aside from the Barrett .50 cal we also use this....
Common sense is not all that common in our part of the world.
Well we use them too. Not the MRAD, rather the Barrett 98B on which the MRAD is based. Also the Barrett M82A1.
The interesting thing about the pics you posted is that belt like thing that runs from the suppressor to the objective of the scope. If I am to guess, I'd say its to prevent degradation of sight picture quality caused by heat haze after the barrel heats up. Its an unique approach(at least to me). Is this a standard NATO practice or is it just the Norwegians ?
BTW we are more simplistic, our guys just wrap it up.
Barrett M98B (.338 Lapua Mag.) sniper with Leupold mk4 Scope & Barrett BORS(Barrett Optical Ranging System).
You guys don't seem to use ballistic calculators. I wonder why. Does it not come with the MRAD, or is it a conscious choice ?
We have a never ending number of snipers for example :
On the smaller caliber side we have this : VSK-94 Silenced Sniper Rifle with the subsonic 9x39mm round.
Primarily used by the Navy, although the Army does borrow it sometimes.
Of course the Army has a veritable zoo of weapons, like the IWI Galil sniper
On the DMR side we continue using the SVD Dragunov. Ah.......Dragunov, our love for it never ends. Its nauseating sometimes.
On the heavy side aside from the Barrett .50 cal we also use this....
ROFLYeh dekhiye birathers,
nayi umang,
nayi asha,
naya naya hai yeh chutiyapa.
Sniper rifles for Indian Army delayed as 20 firms offer weapon, but none make ammunition
Indian Army is now looking to scrap the RFI and start afresh its hunt for 5,700 high-precision sniper rifles, at an estimated cost of Rs 982 crore.
Amrita Nayak Dutta, Updated: 17 June, 2019 11:39 am IST
A sniper rifle produced by Steelcore Designs (representational image) | Steelcore Designs
New Delhi: The Indian Army’s wait for much-needed sniper rifles just got longer, with the procurement process hitting a glitch: 20 firms replied to the Army’s request for information (RFI), floated last year, but none of them manufacture the ammunition.
The absence of ammunition-manufacturing capacity is seen as a major drawback because the Army was looking to secure technology transfer under the final deal for the seamless operation of the rifles in the long run, ThePrint has learnt.
The Army is now looking to scrap the RFI and start afresh its hunt for 5,700 high-precision sniper rifles, at an estimated cost of Rs 982 crore, highly-placed sources in the defence establishment told ThePrint.
The possible options for a new procurement process include floating two separate RFIs — one for procuring sniper rifles and the other for ammunition, the sources said.
“Or the existing RFI could be tweaked to include a clause that the interested firms should manufacture ammunition as well, and also subsequently transfer the technology to India,” a top Army source said, adding that a final decision on the matter is yet to be taken.
Only once this stage is finalised will the Army issue a request for proposal (RFP), the second stage in such transactions, detailing the specifications required.
The transfer of technology question
In February last year, the Defence Acquisition Council approved the purchase of sniper rifles for the Army and the Indian Air Force at an estimated cost of Rs 982 crore.
“While these high-precision weapons will be bought with ‘Buy Global’ categorisation, their ammunition will be initially procured and subsequently manufactured in India,” the Defence Ministry said in a statement issued last year.
There were 12-13 foreign firms among the 20 that replied to the 2018 RFI, ThePrint has learnt, with the respondents including Sako of Finland, H-S Precision of the US, Steelcore Designs Limited of the UK, PGM Precision of France, and Punj Lloyd Raksha Systems, a joint venture between Indian defence conglomerate Punj Lloyd and Israel Weapons Industries.
Also read: Indian Army deploys US-, Italy-trained snipers with deadly new rifles along LoC
However, after evaluating the firms, the authorities found that none had the capability to manufacture the ammunition.
“Ammunition is a crucial requirement for sniper rifles, because even if the firms procured ammunition from elsewhere later, they would not be able to transfer the technology to India,” another Army source told ThePrint.
‘Much delay unlikely’
The Army is looking to procure sniper rifles amid an increased threat of sniper attacks along the Line of Control as well as to seek a tactical advantage over enemies sighted at a distance.
While procurement of defence equipment is usually a long-drawn process, with multiple steps and thorough evaluations, sources in the defence establishment said that the purchase of high-precision sniper rifles was part of a modernisation plan and unlikely to face much delay.
“The troops are being provided with sniper rifles at the borders. This one is for the entire forces and will take the minimum standard time,” one of the aforementioned Army sources said. “The first batch will be delivered after two years.”
With the larger procurement taking time, the Northern Army Commander made an urgent purchase this March of two new advanced sniper rifles — Barrett M95 .50 BMG and Beretta Scorpio TGT ‘Victrix’, with .338 Lapua Magnum cartridges — through his special financial powers.
However, the numbers procured were a blip compared to those required.
Explaining the significance of sniper rifles, a senior Army officer said the long-range weapon equipped with a telescopic sight can be used to cause substantial damage to the enemy and demoralise them. They can also be used in counter-terror operations to eliminate top terror commanders while staying in stealth, the officer added.
“Sniper attacks are characterised by surprise and provide an element of anonymity,” the official added. “The enemy or an important target can be hit in a single shot, but such firing requires extreme stability and patience for hours together.”
“Sniper rifles can be used to inflict casualties without escalating the conflict,” the official said.
The difference between a standard rifle and a sniper rifle is the precision, with the latter having a small error margin.
Also read: Indian Army’s new sniper rifle paired with old improvisation tactics will turn tables at LoC
Since the 1990s, the Army has been using the Soviet-era Dragunov sniper rifle of 1963 vintage, which uses a 7.62×54 mm rimmed cartridge and has a range of 600 to 800 metres. However, the focus has since shifted to night vision and better accuracy.
The RFI issued by the Army’s Infantry Directorate in 2018 took into account these factors, seeking 8.6X70 mm sniper rifles with a range of at least 1,200 metres, and 10.2 million rounds of ammunition.
Sniper rifles for Indian Army delayed as 20 firms offer weapon, but none make ammunition
The requirement is for the vendor to provide the rifles as well as 15 million rounds of ammo. 10 million from the vendor's factories followed by license production of the remaining 5 million in India.
So, although we do have the ability to produce ammo, the IA wants the vendor fulfilling the entire order from their end instead of throwing the responsibility on the IA.
The problem is the RFP, and not the technology itself.
What kind of a$$ backward world does IA live in, there are very few firearms manufacturers that make their own Ammo. What's next, IA is going to buy Vehicles and ask the manufacturer to provide fuel along with it.
15 million rounds of ammo from whom? let's say they buy Barret's M82, Barrett is not an ammunition manufacturer, what license production is IA talking about.
Their plan was for Barrett to find them an ammo vendor and become liable for it. This way the manufacturer of the gun is also responsible for ensuring ammo quality. Killing two birds with one stone. But the plan flopped when they realised Barrett cannot guarantee ToT from the third party.
The RFP could have worked out only if there was no license production of the ammo.
What IA must have expected from the responses is probably that the firearm manufacturer would enter a tie-up with an ammo maker (like Hornady, Federal, SIG's own brand, etc.) in much the same way as how foreign companies tie-up with a local company for many deals.
Frankly, it's not a very sound decision. I guess it was partly necessitated (in their eyes) because OFB does not make .338 Lapmag rounds and they must have figured they'd go with ToT from an established company and use their process for .338 match grade ammo for the snipers.
Now that this approach has failed, I'd reckon IA would have to first call bids for a competition for making the specific rounds (considering they seem firm on the decision for .338 calibre), and get just the rifles in a separate deal.
Frankly, it's not a very sound decision. I guess it was partly necessitated (in their eyes) because OFB does not make .338 Lapmag rounds and they must have figured they'd go with ToT from an established company and use their process for .338 match grade ammo for the snipers.
Now that this approach has failed, I'd reckon IA would have to first call bids for a competition for making the specific rounds (considering they seem firm on the decision for .338 calibre), and get just the rifles in a separate deal.
A better way is to go through the same tender, but with 5 million rounds and the rifle, and then go for a separate tender for 10 million rounds, 5 million from the L1 vendor and 5 million as LP. This poses lesser risk and the first deal for 5 million will act as a stop gap and will also help the army make a more informed decision when they start a new tender for the remaining 10 million rounds.
Would be even better if the ammo vendor that has a tie up with the L1 rifle vendor is chosen for a direct GTG for license production. They can simply pick an Indian partner through the automatic FDI route and develop a presence in India like Dassault is doing. This way the ammo vendor has the freedom to call the shots instead of being tied in by the rifle vendor.
The above is only for an L1 rifle vendor that do not make their own ammo. In case the L1 make their own ammo, then they get all 15 million rounds through the same tender.
This will be a win-win for all three parties.
No clue honestly. It's obstructive to the sight picture in of itself, so I doubt that's what its use is, and adding vegetation does nothing to help either.
My guess is that it helps to break up the gloss of the barrel, and break up another "O" shape, which is an obvious sign of man-made equipment since nothing in nature is perfectly round like a rifle scope or barrel. The MRAD does glisten like morning dew in the far North's climate, standing out against the snow like a beacon.
Even without vegetation the strap is obstructive in its own right.
I dunno. Maybe Milspec knows, but it's not NATO standard I can tell you that. The kit of other NATO sharpshooters can be seen in this thread for comparision - European Best Sniper Team 2018 - only the Norwegians use straps like that.
We do have ballistic computers, but Norwegian sharpshooters do keep their ability to calculate shot formulae tight. Math's perishable. More so for sharpshooters. Where possible they do it by hand.
Been trying to get my hands on one for a while (VSS actually). Hard with Norway's gun laws post-2011. Civilian versions are semi-auto only and have a fake suppressor. I'm looking to land a military variant
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Why would I need to own a marksman rifle like that? Because reasons
.Also looking at a Ukrainian Gopak. Again, don't ask why
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Anyway, you guys have too damn many rifles in service. Standardize and downsize!
Careful with it, the Americans might CAATSA you. Always been fascinated by the people in the west buying Russian guns, shouldn't that be like blasphemy ?Been trying to get my hands on one for a while (VSS actually). Hard with Norway's gun laws post-2011. Civilian versions are semi-auto only and have a fake suppressor. I'm looking to land a military variant
Hunting ? Self-defence ? You're gonna shoot some poor bugger for trespassing aren't you ?Why would I need to own a marksman rifle like that? Because reasons
@Parthu @Milspec ARDE is developing 5.56 X 45 mm NATO CQB carbine, looks like this is moving into limited production soon.
Somebody fix that pistol grip.