Small Arms & Tactical Equipment
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Nothing surfaced yet but livemint said their snipers were being tested by the army and NSG. The assault rifles and carbines were a much recent development only revealed in Defexpo 2020 and I doubt if they're being tested yet
Bullpups seen like a good idea, but in reality they dont work as well. you cant change shoulders while shooting and rhe ergonomics are weird.
AK 203 at Russia Africa economic forum :
ARDE rifles
K9 kit DISPLAYED AT DEFXPO
Yes,you are right.IMO the design of mciws is between mediocre to bad.A monolith upper or at least a extended rail is a basic feature of the modern designs,however here the upper rail is quite scarce.Even in this pic ,you can see how by just mounting a reflex sight ,there is no
further space left.A extended upper rail allow you to mount scope,magnifier or even reflex sight further up ,as per your personal preference and comfort.
Then there is lower hand guard,which would provide a decent grip to your hands,however is too small in length ,thereby restricting the
extent of your support hand grip,eg c clamp grip.Also absence of any rail on the lower hand guard,limit the choice of placement of vertical
fore grip as per shooter comfort.
Then ,there is a need to remove the lower hand guard to mount the ugbl,which is again a negative in my mind.You should be able to mount
or remove UGBL,without fiddling with the rifle .A longer ,slimmer,railed hand guard would have much better .
This hand guard is short,without rail and Fat ,all of these are negatives as per me,not to forget inability to free float the barrel.
Beside this the choice of rear charging handle,absence of any brass deflector and sling swivel attached to the barrel are also some bad
choices,however the use of fixed iron sights is something which I like in this design.
Marcos with high cut helmets and combat pant with integrated knee pad (at least one) is a good sight,however good light weight boots,war belt,proper communication headset and a good plate carrier is still missing.
They need designers who are firearm experts, they have to know what its like to fire a weapon in combat or in training.
Developed and designed in India! Check deadly .338 sniper rifles
By: Huma Siddiqui | Published: February 12, 2020 8:14:25 PM
The weapon systems being designed and developed in house are made to offer compact size, rugged build, and highly reliable features.
The future infantry small arms & light weapons cover the full spectrum of small arms – both individual and crew-served weapons.
For the first time ever an Indian company has managed to indigenously design and develop a complete make in India product for the Indian Armed Forces and which will be exported to a third country too. The Bangalore-based SSS Defence has indigenously designed and developed country’s very first sniper rifle platform as well as a family of weapon systems comprising a recon carbine, rapid engagement combat rifle, and a designated marksman rifle. The weapon systems being designed and developed in house are made to offer compact size, rugged build, and highly reliable features.
Speaking to Financial Express Online, Satish Machani, Promoter & MD SSS Defence, said “We are expecting to commence trials on the .338 sniper platform shortly. Having undertaken the ground-up development of the weapon together with accessories and the optics, we are positioning ourselves as a full system provider. The Joint Venture (JV) that we have with Companies Brasileira de Cartuchos (CBC) Brazil for manufacturing ammunition also dovetails with our strategy to ensure that the forces benefit from sustained ammunition supplies. Most countries that have a sniping culture preserve the advantage primarily because there is no shortage of match grade ammunition.”
“The market for military exports – both of the end products (rifles, optics and ammunition) and critical components of firearms is one that we intend to focus on from day one. Again, since we own the technology on the weapon systems, we are not weighed down by limits set by foreign partners. On ammunition, CBC and our company have always believed in the regional potential and the India operation will complement CBC’s global supply chain,” said the Managing Director of the company.
The Defence Procurement Procedure (DPP)- 2016 emphasised importance of ‘Buy Indian- IDDM (Indigenously Designed, Developed and Manufactured)’ to promote indigenous design and development of defence equipment. The IDDM is a strategic channel to achieve import substitution.
According to Machani, “We are clearly the first in the private sector to achieve the “design” ownership and over 80% content by cost (the floor is 50%) on a sniper rifle platform that complied with international standards. Needless to say, we are pragmatic. Many foreign competitors have the advantage of several decades of evolution and government sponsorship to boot. We have tried to do that in 3 years by capitalising on the latest in additive manufacturing, material science, simulation, prototyping and the manufacturing pedigree that our parent Stumpp Schuele & Somappa Springs brings.”
Adding, “Most importantly, we can add value in life cycle cost management and the provision of upgrades over a very long period. We hope that the Chief of Army Staff’s encouraging words on Indian industry’s prowess requiring trust will apply to our areas as well because we’re ready to go to business. I would also like to add that there can never be a silver bullet. The process starts with the indictment of a weapon and we’re indeed going to be better than everybody else at committing to that journey.”
The future infantry small arms & light weapons cover the full spectrum of small arms – both individual and crew-served weapons. These products are set to add new punch to the firepower of infantry squads, Special Forces units, and law enforcement teams. The company has been working on transformative products designed ground up like carbines, assault rifles, marksman & sniper rifles, and light machine guns.
As has been reported earlier, SSS Defence along with its strategic partner, CBC Global ammunition would be producing a range of standard small & medium calibre ammunition rounds in India in a newly-built factory coming up on an 80-acre land parcel in Andhra Pradesh.
The company has also a range of tactical & military optics which cover a suite of day vision and thermal imaging sights that are specially designed for professional long-range shooting and military/ law enforcement sniper teams respectively.
Presently there are tenders for over $ 5 billion in the pipeline for assault rifles, carbines, sniper rifles and light machine guns.
Developed and designed in India! Check deadly .338 sniper rifles
By: Huma Siddiqui | Published: February 12, 2020 8:14:25 PM
The weapon systems being designed and developed in house are made to offer compact size, rugged build, and highly reliable features.
The future infantry small arms & light weapons cover the full spectrum of small arms – both individual and crew-served weapons.
For the first time ever an Indian company has managed to indigenously design and develop a complete make in India product for the Indian Armed Forces and which will be exported to a third country too. The Bangalore-based SSS Defence has indigenously designed and developed country’s very first sniper rifle platform as well as a family of weapon systems comprising a recon carbine, rapid engagement combat rifle, and a designated marksman rifle. The weapon systems being designed and developed in house are made to offer compact size, rugged build, and highly reliable features.
Speaking to Financial Express Online, Satish Machani, Promoter & MD SSS Defence, said “We are expecting to commence trials on the .338 sniper platform shortly. Having undertaken the ground-up development of the weapon together with accessories and the optics, we are positioning ourselves as a full system provider. The Joint Venture (JV) that we have with Companies Brasileira de Cartuchos (CBC) Brazil for manufacturing ammunition also dovetails with our strategy to ensure that the forces benefit from sustained ammunition supplies. Most countries that have a sniping culture preserve the advantage primarily because there is no shortage of match grade ammunition.”
“The market for military exports – both of the end products (rifles, optics and ammunition) and critical components of firearms is one that we intend to focus on from day one. Again, since we own the technology on the weapon systems, we are not weighed down by limits set by foreign partners. On ammunition, CBC and our company have always believed in the regional potential and the India operation will complement CBC’s global supply chain,” said the Managing Director of the company.
The Defence Procurement Procedure (DPP)- 2016 emphasised importance of ‘Buy Indian- IDDM (Indigenously Designed, Developed and Manufactured)’ to promote indigenous design and development of defence equipment. The IDDM is a strategic channel to achieve import substitution.
According to Machani, “We are clearly the first in the private sector to achieve the “design” ownership and over 80% content by cost (the floor is 50%) on a sniper rifle platform that complied with international standards. Needless to say, we are pragmatic. Many foreign competitors have the advantage of several decades of evolution and government sponsorship to boot. We have tried to do that in 3 years by capitalising on the latest in additive manufacturing, material science, simulation, prototyping and the manufacturing pedigree that our parent Stumpp Schuele & Somappa Springs brings.”
Adding, “Most importantly, we can add value in life cycle cost management and the provision of upgrades over a very long period. We hope that the Chief of Army Staff’s encouraging words on Indian industry’s prowess requiring trust will apply to our areas as well because we’re ready to go to business. I would also like to add that there can never be a silver bullet. The process starts with the indictment of a weapon and we’re indeed going to be better than everybody else at committing to that journey.”
The future infantry small arms & light weapons cover the full spectrum of small arms – both individual and crew-served weapons. These products are set to add new punch to the firepower of infantry squads, Special Forces units, and law enforcement teams. The company has been working on transformative products designed ground up like carbines, assault rifles, marksman & sniper rifles, and light machine guns.
As has been reported earlier, SSS Defence along with its strategic partner, CBC Global ammunition would be producing a range of standard small & medium calibre ammunition rounds in India in a newly-built factory coming up on an 80-acre land parcel in Andhra Pradesh.
The company has also a range of tactical & military optics which cover a suite of day vision and thermal imaging sights that are specially designed for professional long-range shooting and military/ law enforcement sniper teams respectively.
Presently there are tenders for over $ 5 billion in the pipeline for assault rifles, carbines, sniper rifles and light machine guns.
Developed and designed in India! Check deadly .338 sniper rifles
@Maximus
You were right - seems like the collapsible (length-adjustable) stock and 12'o clock rail on handguard were removed upon IA's request:
AK-203 to become organic assault rifle of Indian armed forces | February 2020 Global Defense Security army news industry | Defense Security global news industry army 2020 | Archive News year
"The AK-203 as intended for the Indian Armed Forces features some differences compared to the basic Russian assault rifle: the Indian AK-203 has received a folding buttstock (like that integrated with the AK-74M or AK-103 firearms), upper handguard without a Picatinny rail, and a standard plastic 30-round magazine with no clear window. At the same time, the assault rifle has retained its distinctive slotted muzzle brake. A cleaning rod has been mounted under the weapon’s barrel, in the AK-74M/AK-103 fashion."
Furthermore, no optics or anything as part of kit:
"The first AK-203 will be delivered in the baseline configuration, with IRRPL not planning to conduct any update of the basic configuration"
Utterly disappointing. Cannot fathom why we would request removal of the collapsible stock & top rail on handguard. Not like the the new stock was gauged to be too fragile or anything (considering Russian Army is going for the same stock on AK-12) and not like the rail interferes with anything or changes the sight picture.
You were right - seems like the collapsible (length-adjustable) stock and 12'o clock rail on handguard were removed upon IA's request:
AK-203 to become organic assault rifle of Indian armed forces | February 2020 Global Defense Security army news industry | Defense Security global news industry army 2020 | Archive News year
"The AK-203 as intended for the Indian Armed Forces features some differences compared to the basic Russian assault rifle: the Indian AK-203 has received a folding buttstock (like that integrated with the AK-74M or AK-103 firearms), upper handguard without a Picatinny rail, and a standard plastic 30-round magazine with no clear window. At the same time, the assault rifle has retained its distinctive slotted muzzle brake. A cleaning rod has been mounted under the weapon’s barrel, in the AK-74M/AK-103 fashion."
Furthermore, no optics or anything as part of kit:
"The first AK-203 will be delivered in the baseline configuration, with IRRPL not planning to conduct any update of the basic configuration"
Utterly disappointing. Cannot fathom why we would request removal of the collapsible stock & top rail on handguard. Not like the the new stock was gauged to be too fragile or anything (considering Russian Army is going for the same stock on AK-12) and not like the rail interferes with anything or changes the sight picture.
So technically, the Indian Ak-203 has become Ak-103 with 3 picatinny rails.
Sad. Why to get rid of the AR style buttstock and replace it with legacy AK buttstock even though the AR style buttstock is also foldable.
It could be because the Ar style buttstock on the ak203 does not use a standard ar buffertube, it has different dimentions hence cannot take any of the standard butts in the market for the standard ar buffertube. The army might also think that the average joe doesnt need the complexity that comes with the adjustibility. I do not agree to this view point but just trying to justify their point of view.
"padmaraj" on D. F. I. :
Those AK styled mags have a thing for ruining the looks of a otherwise good looking gun.
Those AK styled mags have a thing for ruining the looks of a otherwise good looking gun.
True. AK mags only look good on AK series of rifles and their copies. But the P-72 fires 7.62x39 bullets and might be capable to accept old AK mags that why such a design.
They should've opted for those drum mags. That may not be all that functional on a carbine but the photos would look better.
the pistolgrip looks like it can take any kind of aftermarket ar pistolgrips.
the top rail seems to be monolithic, i would love to see it get disassembled.