Sukhoi Su-30MKI

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The increased power is needed not only to create a reserve of traction. It is needed to power the more advanced avionics on board. Thanks to this, it became possible to install a powerful radar on the aircraft with an increased detection range of air and ground targets and to provide power to the electronic warfare system.
Will the modernization of the SU-30 MKI be inspired by that of the SU-30 SM?
 
Will the modernization of the SU-30 MKI be inspired by that of the SU-30 SM?

Not necessarily.

Most of the avionics will be non-Russian.
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Some are Indian, some are a mix of Indo-Israeli and Indo-European, depending on the companies involved, but with Indian IPR ownership for most of them, if not all of them.

For example, the IRST development will happen under an Indian company.
According to the press statement issued by the Ministry, the approval was "for undertaking Design and Development of the Long Range Dual Band Infrared Imaging Search and Track System (IRST) for Su-30 MKI aircraft under 'Make II' sub category and subsequently, for procurement of at least 100 IRSTs under 'Buy (Indian-IDDM) category."

The helmet for the HMDS has also been developed.

The only main questions are engine and radar. DRDO has already offered the Uttam radar, with the other options being either Irbis or a new AESA radar. So that gives us at least 3 radar choices. Considering Uttam's current pace of development, it's 1 year away from becoming production-ready, and the IAF's increased emphasis on more and more indigenisation, it's possible it will be chosen. Since the EW suite, cockpit and MC are Indian, the integration will be easier.

As for engine, there are conflicting reports, one saying we will get the new engine, the other saying we will continue with what we have. It's likely the engine decision will be based on cost rather than capability.

Any airframe changes should be the same as SM2, or maybe even more. Personally, I'm hoping for the airbrake to be removed in favour of an extra fuel tank, and they add plumbing for drop tanks. I am also hoping for a significant reduction in RCS and an increase in composites, especially the canards and tail.
 
Not necessarily.

Most of the avionics will be non-Russian.
maxresdefault.jpg


Some are Indian, some are a mix of Indo-Israeli and Indo-European, depending on the companies involved, but with Indian IPR ownership for most of them, if not all of them.

For example, the IRST development will happen under an Indian company.
According to the press statement issued by the Ministry, the approval was "for undertaking Design and Development of the Long Range Dual Band Infrared Imaging Search and Track System (IRST) for Su-30 MKI aircraft under 'Make II' sub category and subsequently, for procurement of at least 100 IRSTs under 'Buy (Indian-IDDM) category."

The helmet for the HMDS has also been developed.

The only main questions are engine and radar. DRDO has already offered the Uttam radar, with the other options being either Irbis or a new AESA radar. So that gives us at least 3 radar choices. Considering Uttam's current pace of development, it's 1 year away from becoming production-ready, and the IAF's increased emphasis on more and more indigenisation, it's possible it will be chosen. Since the EW suite, cockpit and MC are Indian, the integration will be easier.

As for engine, there are conflicting reports, one saying we will get the new engine, the other saying we will continue with what we have. It's likely the engine decision will be based on cost rather than capability.

Any airframe changes should be the same as SM2, or maybe even more. Personally, I'm hoping for the airbrake to be removed in favour of an extra fuel tank, and they add plumbing for drop tanks. I am also hoping for a significant reduction in RCS and an increase in composites, especially the canards and tail.
How feasible to upscale Uttam AESA for MKI? Is it that much easy? Why i am asking is because we were developing uttam since long.
 
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How feasible to upscale Uttam AESA for MKI? Is it that much easy? Why i am asking is because we were developing uttam since long.
It's very much scalable. And it's being developed as a family of radars suitable for several fighters, you may even see it being installed on mig29 and Mirage2000, highly automated and final version will be GaN radar comparable to any contemporary radar operating now and even in future..
 
How feasible to upscale Uttam AESA for MKI? Is it that much easy? Why i am asking is because we were developing uttam since long.

Yeah, it can be upscaled. The MKI upgrade program will be quite long. Plenty of time to upscale the radar and make it available.
 
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Yeah, it can be upscaled. The MKI upgrade program will be quite long. Plenty of time to upscale the radar and make it available.

If the Brahmos Air to Air Missile becomes a Reality , Five years from Now
Will it be guided by the UTTAM AESA or BARS PESA

We would be using it for Awacs and Refuellers ie targets 200 KM away
 
If the Brahmos Air to Air Missile becomes a Reality , Five years from Now
Will it be guided by the UTTAM AESA or BARS PESA

We would be using it for Awacs and Refuellers ie targets 200 KM away
BARS Radar itself is hybrid PESA (AESA-PESA HYBRID) and is still very much relevant currently and will remain relevant at least till 2025-28, it has a huge range of over 400kms search mode and over 200kms tracking for fighter size aircraft. For aerial tanker, commercial aircraft and AWACS it will exceed all above parameters and will be able to guide Brahmos air to air missile easily.....☺️
 
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What do you mean might be? It's clearly a lightweight Brahmos !

That might be the point.

It's light enough to be carried by any aircraft in sufficient numbers, MKI will be able to carry 5, and will have advanced enough technologies in it to have AAM capability. And it will likely have sufficient speed as well. Plus the unique advantage of a fully powered flight. It will likely be designed for an air to surface range of at least 400Km, if not more, so it will be suitable to deal with high altitude threats at even longer ranges than that. It has enough space for a large suitable warhead that can make mincemeat out of any HVA available today.


Since both Brahmos NG and this new AWACS-killer can be carried by Tejas, they are most likely one and the same, only with different avionics.
 
That might be the point.

It's light enough to be carried by any aircraft in sufficient numbers, MKI will be able to carry 5, and will have advanced enough technologies in it to have AAM capability. And it will likely have sufficient speed as well. Plus the unique advantage of a fully powered flight. It will likely be designed for an air to surface range of at least 400Km, if not more, so it will be suitable to deal with high altitude threats at even longer ranges than that. It has enough space for a large suitable warhead that can make mincemeat out of any HVA available today.


Since both Brahmos NG and this new AWACS-killer can be carried by Tejas, they are most likely one and the same, only with different avionics.
That is nowhere near the point.

Doesn't matter how many one aircraft can carry. It doesn't change the base use case from Surface targets to maneuverable air targets. Airframe design will need so many changes so does internals. Which makes it basically a new missile.
 
That is nowhere near the point.

Doesn't matter how many one aircraft can carry. It doesn't change the base use case from Surface targets to maneuverable air targets. Airframe design will need so many changes so does internals. Which makes it basically a new missile.

Brahmos is highly manoeuvrable and can pull a lot of Gs, no different from a dedicated AAM of its class. There are in fact even larger missiles than the Brahmos-NG that are used as SAMs. Did you forget PAD and PDV are derivatives of Prithvi? Or the sheer size and weight of the 48N6? There are even larger SAMs than these two in the S-300 family like the 9M82. The 40N6 is also much bigger and heavier than Brahmos NG.

Anyway, as mentioned in the article, while the form factor will be the same, the internals will be different. An AAM requires a different guidance, seeker and warhead than the A2S version.
 
Strange.
Agility of such a missile is not enough for air target. Except a tanker or an awacs... that are slow moving and thanks to the huge warhead (for a air to air missile). But more probably BS news.

It's official news. It was confirmed by the CEO of Brahmos Aerospace.