Why do we always talk about the Future
The problems are "Here ,Right Now "
As if PLAAF J 20 was not enough
now we have PAF J 10 too
Has The IAF taken a PLEDGE not to buy anything but F 4 RAFALE
Sukhoi Su-30MKI
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Why do we always talk about the Future
The problems are "Here ,Right Now "
As if PLAAF J 20 was not enough
now we have PAF J 10 too
Has The IAF taken a PLEDGE not to buy anything but F 4 RAFALE
Rafale is not a Bollywood or tollywood or whateverwood hero, so that it can thrash an entire j20 squadron single handedly. We neet it in numbers, also k9s too.
36 is enough, the PLAAF will have 48 opposite us. More like they will take another year or two to match what we've got. They have other places to worry about first. The J-20C could take as much as 2027 or 2028 for them to have another 48 across our border.
@randomradio, I Never seen an optimistic person like you in my entire life. Hope you will be right.
As per some curious twitter posters, Chinese/PLAAF are leasing a full squadron of older J10s to PAF from their own stock to fill the immediate capability gap(like Russians did with Su30 mki deal with India) which later will be replaced by newer blocks with more user specific customizations.
Interestingly, what I believe in is what the IAF also believes in. Which is why they don't care about a second batch. You are worried about here and now, but the IAF has already taken care of that. Their next objective is long term.
The military has nothing to do with optimism or pessimism, it's only laymen who think this way after venturing into topics they don't know anything about. The military works with simple math, not emotions.
Even the USAF has only 36 F-22s arrayed against the RuAF in Alaska, and their AEFs have only 1 squadron of ASFs. 18 jets is a very big force, it's led by a group captain, which is the equivalent of a colonel in the army, hence the equal of an army battalion.
Supercruise, stealth aur SEAD/DEAD capability chahiye. Ye sab MKI nahin de sakta.
We need to heavily invest in SEAD
and DEAD capabilities
Some 300 Brahmos Missiles Only for SEAD -- DEAD
One of the most valuable utilization of MKI is firing Brahmos, I don't think any aircraft in Indian inventory can lift this missile
Before 2022 , SEAD / DEAD was never accomplished at all . 2022 onwards , there's always stealth & pseudo stealth like Rafales to execute it .
SEAD -- DEAD requires a Volley of Missiles , preferably a Mix and Match of Nirbhay and Brahmos
I know Prithvi is for SFC but it can also be thrown in
For example if Radars of Sargodha
Have to be destroyed , you can fire missiles from 3 directions ie Jammu , Punjab and Rajasthan
You're completely wrong. It's only stealth & super cruise which can accomplish it . As I remarked earlier IAF is divided into 2 eras : pre 2022 & post 2022. In the pre 2022 era we never could even dream of accomplishing SEAD / DEAD missions leave aside accomplish it . 2022 onwards there's Rafale.
Further the defining yardsticks of how successful a FA is going to be from 2022 onwards which is less than 45 min away is stealth & super cruise. Remember you read it here first . What that says for our entire inventory & that of practically every otherAir Force in the world is anybody's guess.
Its rather a worry some situation, only mki is capable of firing our silver bullet or doomsday weapon as on today. And we don't have any clear cut road map on a true successor for our heavy class fighter, other than some speculation of inducting some su57s in future.
The Air Launched Brahmos is for Time Sensitive targets
The Land launched batteries are already well dispersed
We have good numbers MKI to do this work so no worries, I was concerned about the Anti-ship role, not the A2G role... for western neighbors we are not going to waste Brahmos
... that will be the job for Pinaka and S400. the future war going to be fought mostly with indigenous weapons system MK1......TEDBF
Air defences have become so complex and so capable that firing missiles at it won't do anything much. Or you need so many missiles that you will go broke before you break anything. Once DEWs come in, it will practically become almost impossible to "effectively" defeat air defences through kinetic means.
Once enough modern air defences have proliferated, the only way to beat these air defences is using high end capabilities like supercruise + stealth or more capable stealth and/or EW. Given the massive RCS of the MKI, it's not suitable for this role. It obviously lacks the performance as well. It's no different from how the Internet made libraries obsolete or how the cell phone made the basic landline obsolete. Although useful, both technologies have become obsolete in certain ways, no different from the MKI.
Then why are we investing in Long Range Anti Radiation Missiles like RUDRAM 1
A Missile has to be accurate to land as close as possible to the Radars of the Airbase which are cued to the SAMs
The Blast and shockwave will fry the electronics for the Next round of Air attacks using SAAW
The idea is to make the airbase inoperable for some time at least
AWACS are not available 24 / 7
You shut down The ADGES , the enemy becomes blind