I'm not sure if I've linked this here before but for those interested this is an ongoing fascinatingly abridged ( for & by Twitter standards ) thread on A History of Ukraine. Do check it out.
The real war begins after Mariupol falls. RuA will try to join it's elements from the East & South East with those in the NE & cut off Ukr Army from Central Ukraine within that axis after which they'd slaughter them.Russia defence ministry via RIA has announced that Ukraine has until 5am on March 21 to surrender the besieged city of Mariupol. If surrendered all will be allowed to leave. Else it will treat all left behind including civilians, Ukrainian military and administration as bandits aka military elements and military tribunal treatment will meated out to all of them without exception.
The stream of demands accompanied by nuclear threats keeps coming from Russian polity. During last Friday’s broadcast of 60 Minutes, State Duma deputy Mikhail Delyagin asserted: “Nuclear mushroom may rise over Ukraine, but the NATO flag may not.”
What happens to the civilians, Aleppo 2.0? We do know Ukrainian civilians are out in the streets with their smartphones doing what they can whenever they have the opportunity, and they're getting picked up in door to door searches in the areas overrun by Russian military.The real war begins after Mariupol falls. RuA will try to join it's elements from the East & South East with those in the NE & cut off Ukr Army from Central Ukraine within that axis after which they'd slaughter them.
If what you're written is true, they're going to massively bombard Mariupol reducing the city to ruins. Where's the scope for anyone to survive? For the civilians it's either that or become refugees heading for the West or in case they've kin in Russia, to Russia.What happens to the civilians, Aleppo 2.0? We do know Ukrainian civilians are out in the streets with their smartphones doing what they can whenever they have the opportunity, and they're getting picked up in door to door searches in the areas overrun by Russian military.
Russian speaking people =/ ethnic Russians - who dominate the east . It's difficult to say what transpired immediately before the Russian invasion. If these very people were supportive of the Russian take over of Donbass etc & were disgruntled with Ukrainian government's successive policies before & after the 2014 Russian invasion propping separate states in these territories, what exactly did they foresee their future as & why did they oppose Russian invasion assuming they were taken by surprise?I previously used to think Luhansk and Donbass region is all Russian native speaking people but seeing the outcry from public on social media it doesn't look like they were as much dominant majority as Russia led many to believe. Another fact Ukrainian media didn't gave Russian native speaking people the space the deserved as well in my opinion.
NDTV: Ukraine Refuses To Surrender Mariupol, Russia Warns Of "Catastrophe": 10 Facts.If what you're written is true, they're going to massively bombard Mariupol reducing the city to ruins. Where's the scope for anyone to survive? For the civilians it's either that or become refugees heading for the West or in case they've kin in Russia, to Russia.
What I wrote is getting reported by both domestic and international media including RIA, but I still don't believe Putin will take that kind of extreme action, especially against Civilians hopefully.If what you're written is true, they're going to massively bombard Mariupol reducing the city to ruins. Where's the scope for anyone to survive? For the civilians it's either that or become refugees heading for the West or in case they've kin in Russia, to Russia.
Unless the rounds in the autoloader explode. That said, the hull won't stop APFSDS rounds either.APFSDS behaves differently from HEAT.
APFSDS does not have explosives, only a rod. When it goes through, the damage is done via hot spalling. So the rod shatters itself and the armour, and damages the insides by setting stuff on fire via intense heat. This can incapacitate or kill the crew, practically vaporise the unlucky ones in the way. But the T-14's crew is in the hull, not the turret. Since the crew is elsewhere, more capable anti-fire systems can prevent fires. On the T-14, the APFSDS round can simply go through the turret without damaging anything. It will only leave behind a hole in the front and the back.
Right now, it's the only tank that uses the principle of six zones:
1. Avoid enemies by using radar to detect them early.
2. Avoid detection using stealth.
3. Avoid target acquisition using EWS.
4. Avoid getting hit by any type of round using APS.
5. Avoid getting killed by using passive armour.
6. Avoid getting the crew killed by placing them in an armoured capsule.
As for top attack ATGMs, it's unclear how much armour is on the top. While the Afghanit and Monolit ERAs can stop ATGMs, even if it penetrates, it's possible that due to the design, where the turret itself is isolated from the tank tracks and engine, even the hull, the crew can simply drive away, have the turret replaced and come back to fight. The internal design should be able to prevent secondary effects.
But the issue with most HEAT rounds is the shorter range of the shell when fired from tanks, while longer ranged ATGMs are more detectable on the T-14's radar, along with personnel getting ready to fire the missile. So personnel and vehicles may not get the opportunity to fire off missiles without NLOS capabilities.
Since the engine, crew, fuel and ammo are separated, the only thing in the turret are the sensors and gun, which are easily replaced in the field.
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You can see that there's not much to replace if destroyed.
Long story short, APFSDS goes through the turret without really damaging anything except by luck. And protection from HEAT comes using ERA and radar. The radar can time the automated ERA to explode before the HEAT shell hits it, so this prevents any penetration.
There should be more considering we do not know everything about the tank yet. Particularly the internal turret design and the extent of the APS's capabilities. Let's just say Europe needs a new tank.
Done it plenty of times. Protection against HEAT was achieved back in the 80s, with the induction of composite armour. ERA added an extra layer of protection. T-90s in Syria have taken multiple hits from TOWs and still continued fighting back even with the old Kontakt-5s. Even upgraded T-72s have done it. India's T-72 CIA can do it as well.
Nope, an RPG-28 struck the underbelly and caused an internal panel to rupture injuring a driver's foot but he was able to drive away. Most tanks struck in that position from far weaker projectiles would be toast. Any Russian one would that's for sure. More armour has now been added in that area.RPG 28 penetrated the challengers and even killed a driver. Same with the Abrams. Most Russians atgm's can easily pen western tanks without aps. With rpg 32 they can even take out aps based tanks.
Most of the Russian speakers in Ukraine aren't pro-Russian. Russians are even leaving Russia for the EU. You are vastly overestimating the support for Russia in Ukraine. There was probably more support for Britain in India in 1947, and that's really saying something.That's what the Nato plan seems to be. Sadly Ukraine will be consumed. I guess they will leave a small area of ukraine with non Russians as a buffer state. They have completed most of their main strategic objectives.
It's pretty clear the Ukrainians have been nazified. Most likely German and austrian bullshit from the EU being transferred. Most of western Europe are already closeted Nazis.
I hope someone in Russia can remove Putin before he starts WWIII over the fact that his pee-pee doesn't work properly anymore.