Ukraine - Russia Conflict

Russia defence ministry via RIA has announced that Ukraine has until 5am on March 21 to surrender the besieged city of Mariupol. If surrendered all will be allowed to leave. Else it will treat all left behind including civilians, Ukrainian military and administration as bandits aka military elements and military tribunal treatment will meated out to all of them without exception.
 
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The stream of demands accompanied by nuclear threats keeps coming from Russian polity. During last Friday’s broadcast of 60 Minutes, State Duma deputy Mikhail Delyagin asserted: “Nuclear mushroom may rise over Ukraine, but the NATO flag may not.”
 
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Russia defence ministry via RIA has announced that Ukraine has until 5am on March 21 to surrender the besieged city of Mariupol. If surrendered all will be allowed to leave. Else it will treat all left behind including civilians, Ukrainian military and administration as bandits aka military elements and military tribunal treatment will meated out to all of them without exception.
The real war begins after Mariupol falls. RuA will try to join it's elements from the East & South East with those in the NE & cut off Ukr Army from Central Ukraine within that axis after which they'd slaughter them.
 
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The real war begins after Mariupol falls. RuA will try to join it's elements from the East & South East with those in the NE & cut off Ukr Army from Central Ukraine within that axis after which they'd slaughter them.
What happens to the civilians, Aleppo 2.0? We do know Ukrainian civilians are out in the streets with their smartphones doing what they can whenever they have the opportunity, and they're getting picked up in door to door searches in the areas overrun by Russian military.
 
I previously used to think Luhansk and Donbass region is all Russian native speaking people but seeing the outcry from public on social media it doesn't look like they were as much dominant majority as Russia led many to believe. Another fact Ukrainian media didn't gave Russian native speaking people the space the deserved as well in my opinion.
 
What happens to the civilians, Aleppo 2.0? We do know Ukrainian civilians are out in the streets with their smartphones doing what they can whenever they have the opportunity, and they're getting picked up in door to door searches in the areas overrun by Russian military.
If what you're written is true, they're going to massively bombard Mariupol reducing the city to ruins. Where's the scope for anyone to survive? For the civilians it's either that or become refugees heading for the West or in case they've kin in Russia, to Russia.
 
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Footage of the destruction of the Ukrainian T-64 tank by a Russian Ka-52 helicopter


The video of the combat departure of the reconnaissance-strike drone "Outpost-R" was published by the Russian Defense Ministry. In the footage, for the first time, you can see the control panel of the UAV "Outpost-R" and the work of the operator to control it.


The combat sortie of the Su-25 attack aircraft was published by the Russian Ministry of Defense. The air strike was carried out by a pair of Su-25 attack aircraft on ammunition depots of the Ukrainian army

 
I previously used to think Luhansk and Donbass region is all Russian native speaking people but seeing the outcry from public on social media it doesn't look like they were as much dominant majority as Russia led many to believe. Another fact Ukrainian media didn't gave Russian native speaking people the space the deserved as well in my opinion.
Russian speaking people =/ ethnic Russians - who dominate the east . It's difficult to say what transpired immediately before the Russian invasion. If these very people were supportive of the Russian take over of Donbass etc & were disgruntled with Ukrainian government's successive policies before & after the 2014 Russian invasion propping separate states in these territories, what exactly did they foresee their future as & why did they oppose Russian invasion assuming they were taken by surprise?

After all the ultra Ukrainian militia the Azov Battalion was active in these very areas fighting alongside the Ukrainian army against these separatists who teamed up with Ru Army elements without uniform assisting those pro Russian militas.

Were they using Russia as a bargaining tool for a better deal with the Ukrainian government? Were they bought out by the Ukrainian government with western money for non co operation with Russian invasion? Were they genuinely ok with being a separatist state but not comfortable being part of the Russian Federation?

Apparently, Russian Army on 24th Feb & even later didn't invade those parts in huge numbers because they were under the impression that these separatists would link up with them & reinforce Ru Army numbers which these separatist leaders flatly denied, refusing to support or endorse the Russian invasion.

I'm afraid we won't know the answers for a long time to come.
 
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If what you're written is true, they're going to massively bombard Mariupol reducing the city to ruins. Where's the scope for anyone to survive? For the civilians it's either that or become refugees heading for the West or in case they've kin in Russia, to Russia.
NDTV: Ukraine Refuses To Surrender Mariupol, Russia Warns Of "Catastrophe": 10 Facts.
If what you're written is true, they're going to massively bombard Mariupol reducing the city to ruins. Where's the scope for anyone to survive? For the civilians it's either that or become refugees heading for the West or in case they've kin in Russia, to Russia.
What I wrote is getting reported by both domestic and international media including RIA, but I still don't believe Putin will take that kind of extreme action, especially against Civilians hopefully.
 
Ukraine is to blame for everything. First they staged a Maidan, then they began to restrict the Russian language, this led to a war in the Donbas, then they did not fulfill the Minsk agreements, the result of all this is war and the loss of the country

The captured Ukrainian BTR-4 was taken to Russia for study, footage of the armored personnel carrier appeared on social networks. Technically, the APC itself is not of interest, the military is interested in the electronic filling of the machine, since the BTR-4 is assembled taking into account NATO standards and contains electronic components of the alliance.


 
Combat sortie of Russian Su-35 fighters in Ukraine. A pair of Su-35 fighters armed with R-73, R-77 short- and medium-range air-to-air missiles, as well as X-31P anti-radar missiles patrolled the airspace of Ukraine



 
APFSDS behaves differently from HEAT.

APFSDS does not have explosives, only a rod. When it goes through, the damage is done via hot spalling. So the rod shatters itself and the armour, and damages the insides by setting stuff on fire via intense heat. This can incapacitate or kill the crew, practically vaporise the unlucky ones in the way. But the T-14's crew is in the hull, not the turret. Since the crew is elsewhere, more capable anti-fire systems can prevent fires. On the T-14, the APFSDS round can simply go through the turret without damaging anything. It will only leave behind a hole in the front and the back.

Right now, it's the only tank that uses the principle of six zones:
1. Avoid enemies by using radar to detect them early.
2. Avoid detection using stealth.
3. Avoid target acquisition using EWS.
4. Avoid getting hit by any type of round using APS.
5. Avoid getting killed by using passive armour.
6. Avoid getting the crew killed by placing them in an armoured capsule.

As for top attack ATGMs, it's unclear how much armour is on the top. While the Afghanit and Monolit ERAs can stop ATGMs, even if it penetrates, it's possible that due to the design, where the turret itself is isolated from the tank tracks and engine, even the hull, the crew can simply drive away, have the turret replaced and come back to fight. The internal design should be able to prevent secondary effects.

But the issue with most HEAT rounds is the shorter range of the shell when fired from tanks, while longer ranged ATGMs are more detectable on the T-14's radar, along with personnel getting ready to fire the missile. So personnel and vehicles may not get the opportunity to fire off missiles without NLOS capabilities.

Since the engine, crew, fuel and ammo are separated, the only thing in the turret are the sensors and gun, which are easily replaced in the field.

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You can see that there's not much to replace if destroyed.

Long story short, APFSDS goes through the turret without really damaging anything except by luck. And protection from HEAT comes using ERA and radar. The radar can time the automated ERA to explode before the HEAT shell hits it, so this prevents any penetration.

There should be more considering we do not know everything about the tank yet. Particularly the internal turret design and the extent of the APS's capabilities. Let's just say Europe needs a new tank.



Done it plenty of times. Protection against HEAT was achieved back in the 80s, with the induction of composite armour. ERA added an extra layer of protection. T-90s in Syria have taken multiple hits from TOWs and still continued fighting back even with the old Kontakt-5s. Even upgraded T-72s have done it. India's T-72 CIA can do it as well.
Unless the rounds in the autoloader explode. That said, the hull won't stop APFSDS rounds either.

It can't stop a Javelin, stop kidding yourself. Putin would have them in Ukraine right now if that were the case.

Javelin has non-line of sight capabilities and it's tandem heat.

T-90s in Syria have taken multiple hits from TOW have they?


These were not even top attack variants of TOW. Stop kidding yourself.

RPG 28 penetrated the challengers and even killed a driver. Same with the Abrams. Most Russians atgm's can easily pen western tanks without aps. With rpg 32 they can even take out aps based tanks.
Nope, an RPG-28 struck the underbelly and caused an internal panel to rupture injuring a driver's foot but he was able to drive away. Most tanks struck in that position from far weaker projectiles would be toast. Any Russian one would that's for sure. More armour has now been added in that area.
 
That's what the Nato plan seems to be. Sadly Ukraine will be consumed. I guess they will leave a small area of ukraine with non Russians as a buffer state. They have completed most of their main strategic objectives.

It's pretty clear the Ukrainians have been nazified. Most likely German and austrian bullshit from the EU being transferred. Most of western Europe are already closeted Nazis.
Most of the Russian speakers in Ukraine aren't pro-Russian. Russians are even leaving Russia for the EU. You are vastly overestimating the support for Russia in Ukraine. There was probably more support for Britain in India in 1947, and that's really saying something.

That must be why their President is Jewish and they have a shed-load of Jewish people in their ranks killing Russians right now.

There's only one side invading. There's only one side bombarding cities. There's only one side arresting its own citizens for questioning the narrative on the war. There's only one side without fully internationally monitored elections. There's only one side that poisons dissenters and opposition leaders. That side is where the real Nazis are.