Ukraine - Russia Conflict

A Patriot has up to 16 missiles per launcher and 8 launchers per battery. And with the new IBCS system each launcher can be deployed >80km from the control station and be controlled by any one of multiple radars, which can be Patriot, THAAD or Aegis.

Also, it takes about 5 ATACMS to take out an S-400 battery, the one in Kyiv is still there after dozens of Iskanders, Kinzhals and Zircons. The S-400 was over-hyped, and having only 4 missiles per launcher is no good these days anyway.
Just imagine the amount of datas to analyze after the war !
from the 2 camps....
 
Impact of 4 D-30SN guided bombs on the command post of the Ukrainian army. The Russian army has begun to use in Ukraine the new D-30SN guided interspecific air-gliding munition. The video shows footage of attacks on the command post of the Ukrainian army, in the village of Dneprovskoe, by four D-30SN guided bombs launched from a Su-34 aircraft. The flight range of the D-30SN can reach 160 km or more; when dropped from a height of 12 km, it can also be launched from MLRS. The D-30SN guided aerial bomb has a warhead weighing 250 kg, and the deflection of the bomb from the target does not exceed five meters. The design of the UMPB D-30SN ammunition consists of a warhead, a control unit, a jet engine and wings that deploy in flight.

 
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Yeah, they said the exact same thing about Ukraine just a few days before the tanks crossed the border... When Russia says they won't attack you, it's a threat.

Speaking of the constant lies of these evil clowns, this one was funny. The russian embassy in South Africa has started spreading a clip in which a pretend French soldier is attempting to speak French, in a very unconvincing manner. Also he didn't get the right costume either.
 
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BMD pretty much answered the question. The distance of launchers deployed from radar is measured in tens of kilometers something the s400 isn't capable of. That event over a year ago when we saw Russia launch an all out attack on Kyiv's patriot battery, I believe it wasn't the battery itself I think the Russians discovered a couple of the launchers and went after that and actually damaged one "cosmetically" likely by fallen debris.

Now is the patriot radar on 24/7 absolutely not but it does stay on for long periods of time and after a year Russia still doesn't have the capability to SEAD/DEAD the radar.
Or patriots are fewer in number compared to the S300/S400, and they are deployed at the back, close to major populated cities, making them harder to locate and hit.
 
Or patriots are fewer in number compared to the S300/S400, and they are deployed at the back, close to major populated cities, making them harder to locate and hit.
Russians know a Patriot is in Kyiv they even found a couple of launchers and tried taking them out but failed. It's about having the capability to take them out which is difficult when current Patriot is made to defend a saturation attack of ballistic and cruise missiles. A launcher can carry 12 PAC-3 MSE missiles alone and the Kyiv battery very likely has 10 launchers scattered all over the city.
 
Yeah. But it's a weird decision. France doesn't have all that many aircraft; the air force is already under-strength from having sold 24 second-hand Rafale to Croatia and Greece, and the main issue isn't so much the training of the pilots but that of the mechanics -- and Mirage maintenance is quite different from F-16 maintenance, to say nothing of remaining soviet aircraft in Ukraine's inventory. So on a technical cost/benefit analysis, I'm not sure it's worth it for Ukraine or for France. To make this viable, either France or Ukraine or both will need to acquire some of the export Mirage 2000, maybe those from Greece.

In terms of political messaging, that's another question. Obviously it's a strong show of determination. Is that enough to make it a good idea?
 
Or patriots are fewer in number compared to the S300/S400, and they are deployed at the back, close to major populated cities, making them harder to locate and hit.
Don't give me that, Russia has satellites same as NATO. S-400s have been hit way down in Crimea, hundreds of km from the front too. The only reason S-400's haven't been hit further back from the front is that Ukraine isn't allowed to fire ATACMS into Russia... yet. And the reason Russia has had to place more S-400s near the front is because their lower tier systems are worthless.
Russians know a Patriot is in Kyiv they even found a couple of launchers and tried taking them out but failed. It's about having the capability to take them out which is difficult when current Patriot is made to defend a saturation attack of ballistic and cruise missiles. A launcher can carry 12 PAC-3 MSE missiles alone and the Kyiv battery very likely has 10 launchers scattered all over the city.
Ukraine don't even have MSE, they only have the PAC-3 CRI which is smaller and carried 16 to a launcher.
 
Yeah. But it's a weird decision. France doesn't have all that many aircraft; the air force is already under-strength from having sold 24 second-hand Rafale to Croatia and Greece, and the main issue isn't so much the training of the pilots but that of the mechanics -- and Mirage maintenance is quite different from F-16 maintenance, to say nothing of remaining soviet aircraft in Ukraine's inventory. So on a technical cost/benefit analysis, I'm not sure it's worth it for Ukraine or for France. To make this viable, either France or Ukraine or both will need to acquire some of the export Mirage 2000, maybe those from Greece.

In terms of political messaging, that's another question. Obviously it's a strong show of determination. Is that enough to make it a good idea?
 
Yeah. But it's a weird decision. France doesn't have all that many aircraft; the air force is already under-strength from having sold 24 second-hand Rafale to Croatia and Greece, and the main issue isn't so much the training of the pilots but that of the mechanics -- and Mirage maintenance is quite different from F-16 maintenance, to say nothing of remaining soviet aircraft in Ukraine's inventory. So on a technical cost/benefit analysis, I'm not sure it's worth it for Ukraine or for France. To make this viable, either France or Ukraine or both will need to acquire some of the export Mirage 2000, maybe those from Greece.

In terms of political messaging, that's another question. Obviously it's a strong show of determination. Is that enough to make it a good idea?
With the delays to the F-35, the F-16s are likely to arrive very late because the donor countries will want to keep them until they have the F-35 in their place. So we had to do something. The Ukrainians asked us to do it, we could do it, we are doing it.

The Air Force is not particularly stressed by the sale of 24 Rafales to Greece and Croatia because there is no shortage, the remaining Rafales have been increased from 250 hours to 300 hours per year to take account of the increase in potential from 7,500 to 9,000 hours, which means that we are staying on 30 years of operational life and we are benefiting from the increase, it's as if we had 20% more Rafales (free of charge).

And from the point of view of flight hours generated, there's no variation because we've kept the same maintenance teams, which is the only factor to be taken into account when calculating the number of hours we can generate (because we're far from the blocking maximum). If there is no shortfall in the hours generated, there is no urgent need to replace the Rafales that have been sold, because the total potential available is immense in relation to our consumption.
 
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It is the Mirage 2000-5 that are supposed to be given. The best air to air variant of M2000 (excluding M2000-9 slightly better), delivered with MICA missiles.
 
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The Russian army began using the latest 152-mm Malva howitzers in Ukraine. Technical information about the self-propelled gun 2S43 "Malva" in the link to the video in the comments to the video. It is worth noting that the Malva self-propelled gun plans to replace the gun with a longer-range one. The first footage from the Malva self-propelled gun in Ukraine on the BAZ-6610-027 Voshchina chassis, produced in Bryansk, was shown by correspondents Alexander Kots and Evgeniy Poddubny. We are publishing episodes of footage of the combat operation of the 2S43 Malva self-propelled gun in Ukraine.