Ukraine - Russia Conflict
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Immediately, not much. But the article is referring to longer timescales than that.
Germany and France won't allow Ukraine's entry into NATO. Zelensky has been successfully suckered by the US/UK combine.
Lol, the question is whether Ukraine can. It's not just about money.
No one knows how much damage the sanctions will cause until some time has passed. At least until Russian oil and gas sales to Europe stop.
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The idea that Russia is trying to take over Kiev, the capital, to eliminate Zelensky, comes typically from the West...
Instead, Russia seeks to keep him in power by pushing him to negotiate, by surrounding Kiev.
Many Western commentators were surprised that the Russians continued to seek a negotiated solution while conducting military operations.
In fact, it seems that Russia is trying to limit its advance to the linguistic border of the country.
Pretty much what I said earlier. The Russians never intended to take Kiev. Plus the fact that victory or defeat will be decided on the table.
So the Russians rapidly moved towards Kiev for a negotiated victory. In the meantime, the forces in the East and South would rapidly force capitulations of Sumy, Kharkiv, Kherson, Mykolaiv and Odessa without fighting. Perhaps even Chernihiv. This also explains why the Kiev forces faced logistics issues, 'cause they went in thinking it's gonna be a short trip. With the cities in the South and East deciding to fight, the trip got a whole lot longer than expected.
Conversely, these militias seek to keep civilians in the cities in order to dissuade the Russian army from fighting there.
And we know the Ukrainians are keeping civilians hostage.
But we are doing exactly the opposite—we are pushing citizens to go and fight and at the same time, Facebook authorizes calls for the murder of Russian soldiers and leaders. So much for the values that inspire us.
Western duplicity.
Some intelligence services see this irresponsible decision as a way to use the Ukrainian population as cannon fodder to fight Vladimir Putin’s Russia.
Some Indian generals pointed this out right at the beginning of the war.
The article pretty much gives a dose of reality.
The Military Situation In The Ukraine – The Postil Magazine
www.thepostil.com
Instead, Russia seeks to keep him in power by pushing him to negotiate, by surrounding Kiev.
Many Western commentators were surprised that the Russians continued to seek a negotiated solution while conducting military operations.
In fact, it seems that Russia is trying to limit its advance to the linguistic border of the country.
Pretty much what I said earlier. The Russians never intended to take Kiev. Plus the fact that victory or defeat will be decided on the table.
So the Russians rapidly moved towards Kiev for a negotiated victory. In the meantime, the forces in the East and South would rapidly force capitulations of Sumy, Kharkiv, Kherson, Mykolaiv and Odessa without fighting. Perhaps even Chernihiv. This also explains why the Kiev forces faced logistics issues, 'cause they went in thinking it's gonna be a short trip. With the cities in the South and East deciding to fight, the trip got a whole lot longer than expected.
Conversely, these militias seek to keep civilians in the cities in order to dissuade the Russian army from fighting there.
And we know the Ukrainians are keeping civilians hostage.
But we are doing exactly the opposite—we are pushing citizens to go and fight and at the same time, Facebook authorizes calls for the murder of Russian soldiers and leaders. So much for the values that inspire us.
Western duplicity.
Some intelligence services see this irresponsible decision as a way to use the Ukrainian population as cannon fodder to fight Vladimir Putin’s Russia.
Some Indian generals pointed this out right at the beginning of the war.
The article pretty much gives a dose of reality.
You can't invade a country and expect it not to defend itself. And when a strong country attacks a weak one, all means are good for the weak to bring down the strong. You think the civilians were hostages, but it is likely that they volunteered out of patriotism.@Picdelamirand-oil @A Person
The idea that Russia is trying to take over Kiev, the capital, to eliminate Zelensky, comes typically from the West...The Military Situation In The Ukraine – The Postil Magazine
Instead, Russia seeks to keep him in power by pushing him to negotiate, by surrounding Kiev.
Many Western commentators were surprised that the Russians continued to seek a negotiated solution while conducting military operations.
In fact, it seems that Russia is trying to limit its advance to the linguistic border of the country.
Pretty much what I said earlier. The Russians never intended to take Kiev. Plus the fact that victory or defeat will be decided on the table.
So the Russians rapidly moved towards Kiev for a negotiated victory. In the meantime, the forces in the East and South would rapidly force capitulations of Sumy, Kharkiv, Kherson, Mykolaiv and Odessa without fighting. Perhaps even Chernihiv. This also explains why the Kiev forces faced logistics issues, 'cause they went in thinking it's gonna be a short trip. With the cities in the South and East deciding to fight, the trip got a whole lot longer than expected.
Conversely, these militias seek to keep civilians in the cities in order to dissuade the Russian army from fighting there.
And we know the Ukrainians are keeping civilians hostage.
But we are doing exactly the opposite—we are pushing citizens to go and fight and at the same time, Facebook authorizes calls for the murder of Russian soldiers and leaders. So much for the values that inspire us.
Western duplicity.
Some intelligence services see this irresponsible decision as a way to use the Ukrainian population as cannon fodder to fight Vladimir Putin’s Russia.
Some Indian generals pointed this out right at the beginning of the war.
The article pretty much gives a dose of reality.
Most Ukrainian men took their wives and children abroad and returned to fight.
As per Baud, it was the opposite. Ukraine attacked Donbas, and that began on the 16th.
Russians? With Azovs?
Why didn't the Ukrainians respect Russia's humanitarian corridor deal then? And why didn't Ukraine allow foreign students to leave either?
As citizens were rescued from Mariupol, they pointed out that they were not allowed to leave the city. Those who tried were killed.
Dombas is a part of Ukraine and is an internal Ukrainian matter. It is like Pakistan wanting to intervene to support separatists in Kashmir.
For the West it is the Russians who pretend to create humanitarian corridors and who follow the attacks, they did the same thing in Syria.
Your students were finally able to leave, it was a question of organisation, we just had to wait until the conditions were right.
When you are surrounded by Russians you have to say what the Russians want to hear.
What should Russia do with Ukraine? [Translation of a propaganda article by a Russian publication]
Denazification" in the official language of Russia simply means the destruction of the Ukrainian state and nation. A 'Nazi', as the genocide manual explains, is simply a human being who identifies as Ukrainian. According to the manual, the establishment of a Ukrainian state thirty years ago began the "Nazification of Ukraine".
Donbas stopped being a Ukrainian matter the minute they decided to disenfranchise Russians. Meaning they stopped having any good intentions for the Donbas region anymore. It's enough for the international community to protect the separatists legally.
Western propaganda. Syria didn't have Slavs. Ukraine does. The politics in Syria was different. It was about de-populating opposition cities and filling them up with pro-regime populations. So, in Syria, the people of Aleppo were considered enemies.
And in Ukraine, the regions Russia wants to liberate are considered Russian territory, and the people are considered Russians themselves. Plus the fact that the Russians have demonstrably showed restraint. The Russians will do exactly what they did in Syria in Poland, Germany or France, perhaps even worse. But not in Ukraine. The Russian attempts to empty the cities in pro-Russian territories were genuine.
Ukrainians were allowed to leave, not non-Ukrainians. Others were forced to stay back at the border. In the end, Indians stuck in other cities had to escape from the Russian side, and that could happen only after public opinion turned heavily against Ukraine in India.
You mean all those people who spoke in a Russian accent about warcrimes done by the Azovs?
Funny how citizens are safely evacuating from Mariupol since the last 2 days, when it's under Russian control, with no one getting killed during evacuations.
The same story is gonna repeat in Kharkiv. Taken hostage, won't be allowed to leave, will get killed during the fighting. After Russia takes the city, the people left will safely evacuate.
Audio captures Russian soldiers discussing killing and raping Ukrainians, with one saying, 'If there are civilians, slay them all'
Ukrainian officials said they intercepted the radio transmissions, which include someone reporting that three soldiers raped a 16-year-old girl.
They aren't at risk in the long-term either. Israel is more a focus of Iran than Saudi Arabia.
After this war is over they may be forced too. Macron unpopularity in France is growing and Germany has u-turned. It's also likely that Ukraine will arm itself to the teeth and may even develop nukes again, we know they can.
Mostly it is. Russia is haemorrhaging cash.
It's been modelled. They can't last. Oil and gas sales are reduced, all other sales have stopped. No business can get away with angering their best customers in the long term.
No it didn't. When you say disenfranchise you're only talking about official languages and even that would never have happened if Russia hadn't spread it's insurgents into the region to cause trouble.
Russia considers everything up to where the Berlin wall was as its territory. They never let the people vote in Ukrainian elections, which is typical Russian fashion.
Nothing Russia does is ever genuine. All pro-Russian regimes are dictatorships. Look at Belarus. You need to wake up and stop speaking on issues you don't understand. It's like saying that some Kashmiris are Muslims and so Pakistan has a right to invade. Whether some people regard themselves as Russians or not is irrelevant, that could be the case in any EU country, or even the US. The fact is even Russians are leaving Russia, and more would if they could, so let's not pretend that people outside Russia desperately want to be in that sh1thole.
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What you're talking about is inherited insignia. The Nazis took their swastika from Indic religions, such as Hinduism, so does that mean Hindus are Nazis or Nazis were Hindus? No. If you want to talk about such things, Putin was a member of the KGB, who were worse than Nazis.@Picdelamirand-oil @A Person
The idea that Russia is trying to take over Kiev, the capital, to eliminate Zelensky, comes typically from the West...The Military Situation In The Ukraine – The Postil Magazine
Instead, Russia seeks to keep him in power by pushing him to negotiate, by surrounding Kiev.
Many Western commentators were surprised that the Russians continued to seek a negotiated solution while conducting military operations.
In fact, it seems that Russia is trying to limit its advance to the linguistic border of the country.
Pretty much what I said earlier. The Russians never intended to take Kiev. Plus the fact that victory or defeat will be decided on the table.
So the Russians rapidly moved towards Kiev for a negotiated victory. In the meantime, the forces in the East and South would rapidly force capitulations of Sumy, Kharkiv, Kherson, Mykolaiv and Odessa without fighting. Perhaps even Chernihiv. This also explains why the Kiev forces faced logistics issues, 'cause they went in thinking it's gonna be a short trip. With the cities in the South and East deciding to fight, the trip got a whole lot longer than expected.
Conversely, these militias seek to keep civilians in the cities in order to dissuade the Russian army from fighting there.
And we know the Ukrainians are keeping civilians hostage.
But we are doing exactly the opposite—we are pushing citizens to go and fight and at the same time, Facebook authorizes calls for the murder of Russian soldiers and leaders. So much for the values that inspire us.
Western duplicity.
Some intelligence services see this irresponsible decision as a way to use the Ukrainian population as cannon fodder to fight Vladimir Putin’s Russia.
Some Indian generals pointed this out right at the beginning of the war.
The article pretty much gives a dose of reality.
Lol, no such thing.
It depends on the demand for the product.
Not really. They actually want territories of Russian-speaking people.
Putin actually asked for elections to be held in Donbas.
It's just bad guys fighting bad guys, while being supported by bad guys.
Two oxy-moronic sentences right next to each other. Kashmiris are "Kashmiris", like how French are French and Germans are Germans. Pakistanis are Punjabis, Sindhis and Pashtuns. Just 'cause an Englishman and a Polish man are Christians doesn't mean England has a right over Poland.
Analogies need to make sense, or you end up looking like the fool.
That has less to do with politics and more to do with economics. Most people who wish to immigrate are denied entry into the US and EU, and this war gives them a chance to move there.
You wouldn't say this if you actually see Azov's captured bases from Russian sources. All German Nazi memorabilias all over the place.
You don't have to, you will see it for yourself.
In case they succeed to take another city, you will see evacuations happening only after a Russian success, not before. And those evacuations will be peaceful too, like in Mariupol.
Yes, and if the Ukrainians manage to take Moscow, evacuations will only take place after success, not before. And these evacuations will also be peaceful, like in Mariupol.