Ukraine - Russia Conflict
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‘They were trying to escape’: Ukrainian man says he saw Russian forces shooting civilians
Russian forces opened fire on a civilian convoy on the small village of Havronschchyna outside Kyiv, mechanic Yuriy Patsan, 42, said. He added that he rescued a man called Alexander.
In a nuclear war all population centres would be targeted as well as military installations, afterwards any people left in the countryside would be scrabbling around looking for clean water and food, while dying of radiation poisoning without any medical facilities. You don't have time for an evacuation of a major city, JFC, the level of naivety here is unbearable. A depressed trajectory SLBM strike from the arctic can deliver 1,152 US warheads + 500 UK and French warheads in <10 minutes. Good look detecting the launches and communicating an evacuation to the entire population of a large city and getting them all evacuated inside 10 minutes.2000 nukes won't do much when most people are living outside the target zones, genius. A major war will generally see evacuation of the most important people and a significant section of urban population. Soldiers come from everywhere. And this is not even counting BMD.
Moscow, a pile of rubble? You mean, like Hiroshima?
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Poland was richer than Russia when they started off, genius. And they still took 10 years after joining the EU to achieve a $30000 per capita from $16000. Ukraine is/was at $14000, they will need more than 10 years to get to $30000. And Russia is already at $30000. There's nothing the EU can do short of simply giving away free money to ensure Ukraine's quality of life will match Russia's anytime soon. This is literally basic. Maybe if you give them $100B cash a year in aid, they may do something about it. Good luck.
The difference between Rohingyas and Ukrainian Russians is, the Rohingyas were not taken hostage by their own troops.
Only two tiny nuclear bombs were used on Japan. There have been 203mm artillery shells that pack twice the punch of either since. US warheads are 475kT, that's 32 Hiroshimas or 24 Nagasakis, and between NATO forces there will be 2,000-2,500 coming. Probably far more in a future scenario because this war has a55-f*cked any START Treaty in existence. You literally don't have a clue what you're talking about. The total area devastated in Hiroshima is smaller than the area inside which metal melts or even vaporises with a 475kT thermonuclear warhead and Moscow will get pummelled by warheads simply because it has an ABM shield. The last warheads landing will probably be heading for a pre-existent fireball.
They didn't get full free movement until 2008 and now they have a GDP/Capita of $40k, well above Russia's, it's also fair to say that the EU started helping Poland well before accession simply due to proximity. In 1998 Russian GDP was $554bn, now it is about 3x that. In 1988 Poland's GDP was $65bn, it is now about 10x that. Hungary has gone from $30bn to $180bn in the same period. You must also remember that Russia is packed with natural resources (more natural gas than any other country), so it enjoys a natural advantage which should mean an easy win and yet it gets thrashed. Ukraine has been suffering under Russian corruption like Belarus between 1990 and 2014, and Russian War since, whereas Poland has been free and associated with the EU far longer. If Russia p1ssed off and left Ukraine alone they would outperform Russia economically by a factor of 3 over the next 30 years. In fact more like 6-10 since Putin crippled Russia with sanctions.
Russia GDP
The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in Russia was worth 2021.42 billion US dollars in 2023, according to official data from the World Bank. The GDP value of Russia represents 1.92 percent of the world economy. This page provides the latest reported value for - Russia GDP - plus previous releases...
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Poland GDP
The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in Poland was worth 811.23 billion US dollars in 2023, according to official data from the World Bank. The GDP value of Poland represents 0.77 percent of the world economy. This page provides the latest reported value for - Poland GDP - plus previous releases...
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Hungary GDP
The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in Hungary was worth 212.39 billion US dollars in 2023, according to official data from the World Bank. The GDP value of Hungary represents 0.20 percent of the world economy. This page provides the latest reported value for - Hungary GDP - plus previous releases...
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Polish GDP(PPP)/Capita has tripled since 1988, Russia's has simply flopped about and stagnated
Poland GDP per capita PPP
The Gross Domestic Product per capita in Poland was last recorded at 44050.95 US dollars in 2023, when adjusted by purchasing power parity (PPP). The GDP per Capita, in Poland, when adjusted by Purchasing Power Parity is equivalent to 248 percent of the world's average. This page provides the...
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Russia GDP per capita PPP
The Gross Domestic Product per capita in Russia was last recorded at 39753.46 US dollars in 2023, when adjusted by purchasing power parity (PPP). The GDP per Capita, in Russia, when adjusted by Purchasing Power Parity is equivalent to 224 percent of the world's average. This page provides the...
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No, they were shot. And Russians next to the Russian border could have easily fled to Russia after 2014 if they'd wanted to. All Putin's lies are so obvious, it amazes me how dumb some here are.
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I just found out something, even China isn't accepting rubles for online purchases from Russia. Fake ruble exchange rate is fake.
Now for loss analysis. About 5,500 vehicles (including tanks, artillery et al) have been lost in total, plus 333 helicopters and planes, and 8 boats. So actually near 6,000, not including UAVs. Many of these are crewed by several people, like Russian tanks are crewed by 3 and APCs can have a dozen people in them. Su-34s are two seat. I think the Ukrainian estimate for the Russian death toll is highly conservative, even if nobody outside a vehicle got killed, which is unlikely. I think it's more like 21,800 confirmed dead and X unconfirmed.
Now for loss analysis. About 5,500 vehicles (including tanks, artillery et al) have been lost in total, plus 333 helicopters and planes, and 8 boats. So actually near 6,000, not including UAVs. Many of these are crewed by several people, like Russian tanks are crewed by 3 and APCs can have a dozen people in them. Su-34s are two seat. I think the Ukrainian estimate for the Russian death toll is highly conservative, even if nobody outside a vehicle got killed, which is unlikely. I think it's more like 21,800 confirmed dead and X unconfirmed.
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It's official.
Ukraine & the comedian have won!!
O'Shea says so & their rag - The O'Shea Independent.
La Russie asphyxiée : elle met fin à certaines de ses productions militaires modernes
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Russia suffocates: it stops some of its modern military production
The Russian military-industrial complex is suffering as a result of the economic sanctions imposed by Western countries. And for good reason: Russia is heavily dependent on high-tech imports for the production of modern equipment.
Defence industries in a state of decline
The end of foreign cooperation, higher interest rates on loans and higher prices for materials have taken their toll on Russian defence companies, which are now forced to suspend production. The "War Bulletin", produced on 16 April by the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, reports that some twenty Russian military companies have partially or totally suspended their activities due to the consequences of the economic sanctions imposed by Western countries. These include Vympel, which produces aircraft missiles, including the R-77 long-range missile with active radar guidance, and UralVagonZavod, which produces the T-90 and T-72 battle tanks, as well as the new generation T-14 "Armatas" tank. According to the Ukrainian Intelligence Directorate (GUR), the company, which is the world's largest manufacturer of battle tanks, has completely stopped production of the T-90 and T-14, while work on the T-72 has simply been slowed down for the moment.
Russia is also suspending production of some of its air defence systems such as the Buk, the 2K12 Kub and the 2K22 Tunguska. Workers at the Ulyanovsk mechanical plant are being asked to either take unpaid leave or join the fight in Ukraine as SAM (surface-to-air missile) operators. This stoppage is particularly due to the large presence of electronic parts in the manufacture of anti-aircraft systems, of which Germany was the main supplier.
There are also many difficulties on the naval side. According to the GUR, some shipyards, such as the one in Vladivostok, are now unable to build and maintain warships.
As a result, Russia, which was already struggling to replenish its supplies in the field and which has already reported more than 3,000 disabled military vehicles, is all the more handicapped by the Western economic sanctions as they affect its military capabilities.
Modern technology on standby
The UralVagonZavod T-14 Armatas is a new generation tank that has superior theoretical qualities to what is offered in the West: heavier armour; unmanned turret; gun firing 125-millimetre shells; range of 12 km (3 times that of the American M1A2 Abrams, considered to be the best Western tank); communication system interconnected with other T-14s and T-90s; software capable of autonomously tracking different targets in order to overcome Russia's weakness in terms of night combat... The T-14 Armatas, which on paper is the best battle tank in the world, has so far only been delivered in a few pre-production examples in order to validate the technical options chosen. UralVagonZavod was supposed to start serial production and delivery of the T-14 this year, and the suspension of its production is a real blow to the modernisation of the Russian army.
The same is true of the aviation sector, where the brand new 'A-100' airborne surveillance aircraft (AWACS) from Beriev Aircraft Company and Vega has seen its production halted. Originally intended to replace the 1980s A-50 and its modernised A-50U version, the aircraft's development has been minimally delayed by the halt in deliveries of electronic components caused by Western sanctions. Touted as three times more efficient than its predecessor, the A-100 has an endurance of 4 hours and is equipped with modern avionics including panoramic surveillance radars and advanced computer systems that can detect air targets at a distance of 600km and surface targets at 400km.
In addition to the heavy economic sanctions imposed by Western countries on all sectors of Russian industry, the aim of depriving the Russian army of some of its modern technologies would thus be achieved.
Towards 100% Russian equipment?
Although economic sanctions are beginning to have the desired effects, they are only having an impact in the long term. In the short term, the Russian army is not crippled beyond the significant losses suffered in Ukraine or the accelerated consumption of its consumables, including cruise missiles and guided bombs.
These obvious handicaps do not prevent Russia from still having a significant war arsenal. According to data from the Global Fire Power Index and the International Institute for Strategic Studies, Russia is the country with the largest number of tanks in the world by far: 12,400 tanks compared to 6,600 for the United States and 400 for France. Even if the level of availability of this equipment, most of which is stored and not modernised, is very variable, Russia has a considerable renewal capacity despite the large amount of equipment destroyed and captured by the Ukrainians: the modernisation of old tanks would cost three times less and would be three times faster than the production of equivalent Russian tanks. As the recent Russian Defence Ministry report states, it would appear that the Russian army has also adopted the practice of capturing and refurbishing Ukrainian tanks for their own benefit, although the measure is probably more symbolic than operational.
Despite renewed economic cooperation, Russia, more than ever, has an interest in turning to its domestic production capacities. This is what the country seems to want to do, since Prime Minister Mikhail Michoustine has already stated that he would like to see the production of 36 all-Russian MC-21s by 2025 and 20 Sukhoi SuperJets per year, a civilian aircraft whose production could partly compensate for the unavailability of Airbus and Boeing...
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Russia suffocates: it stops some of its modern military production
The Russian military-industrial complex is suffering as a result of the economic sanctions imposed by Western countries. And for good reason: Russia is heavily dependent on high-tech imports for the production of modern equipment.
Defence industries in a state of decline
The end of foreign cooperation, higher interest rates on loans and higher prices for materials have taken their toll on Russian defence companies, which are now forced to suspend production. The "War Bulletin", produced on 16 April by the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, reports that some twenty Russian military companies have partially or totally suspended their activities due to the consequences of the economic sanctions imposed by Western countries. These include Vympel, which produces aircraft missiles, including the R-77 long-range missile with active radar guidance, and UralVagonZavod, which produces the T-90 and T-72 battle tanks, as well as the new generation T-14 "Armatas" tank. According to the Ukrainian Intelligence Directorate (GUR), the company, which is the world's largest manufacturer of battle tanks, has completely stopped production of the T-90 and T-14, while work on the T-72 has simply been slowed down for the moment.
Russia is also suspending production of some of its air defence systems such as the Buk, the 2K12 Kub and the 2K22 Tunguska. Workers at the Ulyanovsk mechanical plant are being asked to either take unpaid leave or join the fight in Ukraine as SAM (surface-to-air missile) operators. This stoppage is particularly due to the large presence of electronic parts in the manufacture of anti-aircraft systems, of which Germany was the main supplier.
There are also many difficulties on the naval side. According to the GUR, some shipyards, such as the one in Vladivostok, are now unable to build and maintain warships.
As a result, Russia, which was already struggling to replenish its supplies in the field and which has already reported more than 3,000 disabled military vehicles, is all the more handicapped by the Western economic sanctions as they affect its military capabilities.
Modern technology on standby
The UralVagonZavod T-14 Armatas is a new generation tank that has superior theoretical qualities to what is offered in the West: heavier armour; unmanned turret; gun firing 125-millimetre shells; range of 12 km (3 times that of the American M1A2 Abrams, considered to be the best Western tank); communication system interconnected with other T-14s and T-90s; software capable of autonomously tracking different targets in order to overcome Russia's weakness in terms of night combat... The T-14 Armatas, which on paper is the best battle tank in the world, has so far only been delivered in a few pre-production examples in order to validate the technical options chosen. UralVagonZavod was supposed to start serial production and delivery of the T-14 this year, and the suspension of its production is a real blow to the modernisation of the Russian army.
The same is true of the aviation sector, where the brand new 'A-100' airborne surveillance aircraft (AWACS) from Beriev Aircraft Company and Vega has seen its production halted. Originally intended to replace the 1980s A-50 and its modernised A-50U version, the aircraft's development has been minimally delayed by the halt in deliveries of electronic components caused by Western sanctions. Touted as three times more efficient than its predecessor, the A-100 has an endurance of 4 hours and is equipped with modern avionics including panoramic surveillance radars and advanced computer systems that can detect air targets at a distance of 600km and surface targets at 400km.
In addition to the heavy economic sanctions imposed by Western countries on all sectors of Russian industry, the aim of depriving the Russian army of some of its modern technologies would thus be achieved.
Towards 100% Russian equipment?
Although economic sanctions are beginning to have the desired effects, they are only having an impact in the long term. In the short term, the Russian army is not crippled beyond the significant losses suffered in Ukraine or the accelerated consumption of its consumables, including cruise missiles and guided bombs.
These obvious handicaps do not prevent Russia from still having a significant war arsenal. According to data from the Global Fire Power Index and the International Institute for Strategic Studies, Russia is the country with the largest number of tanks in the world by far: 12,400 tanks compared to 6,600 for the United States and 400 for France. Even if the level of availability of this equipment, most of which is stored and not modernised, is very variable, Russia has a considerable renewal capacity despite the large amount of equipment destroyed and captured by the Ukrainians: the modernisation of old tanks would cost three times less and would be three times faster than the production of equivalent Russian tanks. As the recent Russian Defence Ministry report states, it would appear that the Russian army has also adopted the practice of capturing and refurbishing Ukrainian tanks for their own benefit, although the measure is probably more symbolic than operational.
Despite renewed economic cooperation, Russia, more than ever, has an interest in turning to its domestic production capacities. This is what the country seems to want to do, since Prime Minister Mikhail Michoustine has already stated that he would like to see the production of 36 all-Russian MC-21s by 2025 and 20 Sukhoi SuperJets per year, a civilian aircraft whose production could partly compensate for the unavailability of Airbus and Boeing...
So when people say, "oh, they were due replacement anyway," it turns out that they can't be.La Russie asphyxiée : elle met fin à certaines de ses productions militaires modernes
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
Russia suffocates: it stops some of its modern military production
The Russian military-industrial complex is suffering as a result of the economic sanctions imposed by Western countries. And for good reason: Russia is heavily dependent on high-tech imports for the production of modern equipment.
Defence industries in a state of decline
The end of foreign cooperation, higher interest rates on loans and higher prices for materials have taken their toll on Russian defence companies, which are now forced to suspend production. The "War Bulletin", produced on 16 April by the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, reports that some twenty Russian military companies have partially or totally suspended their activities due to the consequences of the economic sanctions imposed by Western countries. These include Vympel, which produces aircraft missiles, including the R-77 long-range missile with active radar guidance, and UralVagonZavod, which produces the T-90 and T-72 battle tanks, as well as the new generation T-14 "Armatas" tank. According to the Ukrainian Intelligence Directorate (GUR), the company, which is the world's largest manufacturer of battle tanks, has completely stopped production of the T-90 and T-14, while work on the T-72 has simply been slowed down for the moment.
Russia is also suspending production of some of its air defence systems such as the Buk, the 2K12 Kub and the 2K22 Tunguska. Workers at the Ulyanovsk mechanical plant are being asked to either take unpaid leave or join the fight in Ukraine as SAM (surface-to-air missile) operators. This stoppage is particularly due to the large presence of electronic parts in the manufacture of anti-aircraft systems, of which Germany was the main supplier.
There are also many difficulties on the naval side. According to the GUR, some shipyards, such as the one in Vladivostok, are now unable to build and maintain warships.
As a result, Russia, which was already struggling to replenish its supplies in the field and which has already reported more than 3,000 disabled military vehicles, is all the more handicapped by the Western economic sanctions as they affect its military capabilities.
Modern technology on standby
The UralVagonZavod T-14 Armatas is a new generation tank that has superior theoretical qualities to what is offered in the West: heavier armour; unmanned turret; gun firing 125-millimetre shells; range of 12 km (3 times that of the American M1A2 Abrams, considered to be the best Western tank); communication system interconnected with other T-14s and T-90s; software capable of autonomously tracking different targets in order to overcome Russia's weakness in terms of night combat... The T-14 Armatas, which on paper is the best battle tank in the world, has so far only been delivered in a few pre-production examples in order to validate the technical options chosen. UralVagonZavod was supposed to start serial production and delivery of the T-14 this year, and the suspension of its production is a real blow to the modernisation of the Russian army.
The same is true of the aviation sector, where the brand new 'A-100' airborne surveillance aircraft (AWACS) from Beriev Aircraft Company and Vega has seen its production halted. Originally intended to replace the 1980s A-50 and its modernised A-50U version, the aircraft's development has been minimally delayed by the halt in deliveries of electronic components caused by Western sanctions. Touted as three times more efficient than its predecessor, the A-100 has an endurance of 4 hours and is equipped with modern avionics including panoramic surveillance radars and advanced computer systems that can detect air targets at a distance of 600km and surface targets at 400km.
In addition to the heavy economic sanctions imposed by Western countries on all sectors of Russian industry, the aim of depriving the Russian army of some of its modern technologies would thus be achieved.
Towards 100% Russian equipment?
Although economic sanctions are beginning to have the desired effects, they are only having an impact in the long term. In the short term, the Russian army is not crippled beyond the significant losses suffered in Ukraine or the accelerated consumption of its consumables, including cruise missiles and guided bombs.
These obvious handicaps do not prevent Russia from still having a significant war arsenal. According to data from the Global Fire Power Index and the International Institute for Strategic Studies, Russia is the country with the largest number of tanks in the world by far: 12,400 tanks compared to 6,600 for the United States and 400 for France. Even if the level of availability of this equipment, most of which is stored and not modernised, is very variable, Russia has a considerable renewal capacity despite the large amount of equipment destroyed and captured by the Ukrainians: the modernisation of old tanks would cost three times less and would be three times faster than the production of equivalent Russian tanks. As the recent Russian Defence Ministry report states, it would appear that the Russian army has also adopted the practice of capturing and refurbishing Ukrainian tanks for their own benefit, although the measure is probably more symbolic than operational.
Despite renewed economic cooperation, Russia, more than ever, has an interest in turning to its domestic production capacities. This is what the country seems to want to do, since Prime Minister Mikhail Michoustine has already stated that he would like to see the production of 36 all-Russian MC-21s by 2025 and 20 Sukhoi SuperJets per year, a civilian aircraft whose production could partly compensate for the unavailability of Airbus and Boeing...
Forcible removal of people from their own country is ethnic cleansing.
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‘It was killing me’: Ukrainian mother says her son was forcibly deported to Russia
Natalia Demish escaped the horrors of besieged Mariupol last month.
A powerful blow from the Russian UR-77 in Ukraine. The Russian military, in the battles in Ukraine, began to use installations for demining, for strikes against the enemy. The UR-77 "Meteorite" mine-clearing installation, also known as the "Snake Gorynych", was created on the basis of the 2S1 Gvozdika self-propelled howitzer and is designed to make moves in anti-tank minefields during the battle. The UR-77 "Meteorite" installation, with the help of rockets, fires powder charges placed in hoses at a distance of about 500 meters. After that, the car drives back, the hose with the charge is stretched and it is activated. One of the episodes of the combat use of the UR-77 in Ukraine was caught on video