Ukraine - Russia Conflict
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Odessa is their final objective. Kharkiv doesn't matter, Odessa does. Russians are not going without taking Odessa.
They're going regardless of what they take, Ukraine will carry on fighting them as long as they remain in their country.
Russia only have 2 options to win this war and both are bad
1) Full mobilisation and total war
2) Use tactical nuclear weapons or chemical weapons against western Ukraine and crush Ukranian morale using WMD.
There are no third option to victory. Longer the war drags on, weaker the Russian position becomes.
1) Full mobilisation and total war
2) Use tactical nuclear weapons or chemical weapons against western Ukraine and crush Ukranian morale using WMD.
There are no third option to victory. Longer the war drags on, weaker the Russian position becomes.
Both are right though. He wants a reconciliation with the West, but she says the West isn't interested.
The weapons aren't the problem, the ISR is. And Russia is unable to attack the ISR assets since they belong to NATO. In a normal war, those ISR assets would be threatened, even the ones in space. So Ukraine can attack Russian ISR, but the Russians cannot attack NATO ISR.
As usual, you didn't get the point he made. He is talking about NATO's weapons creep, not about countries joining NATO. He's basically saying Finland and Sweden can join NATO, but shouldn't host additional NATO forces. Ukraine would have seen heavy NATO presence had they joined.
Also, from Russia's PoV, the Nordic borders are defensible, Ukraine's border is not. Grassland.
West will not allow Russia a 'diktat peace' in Ukraine, says Germany's Scholz
Russia will not get away with trying to redraw Ukraine's borders by creating facts on the ground and waiting out Kyiv and its allies, Olaf Scholz said, insisting that the West would not stand for a "diktat," or dictated, peace forced on the country. Ukraine's President Voldomyr said last week...
West will not allow Russia a 'diktat peace' in Ukraine, says Germany's Scholz
BERLIN (Reuters) - Russia will not get away with trying to redraw Ukraine's borders by creating facts on the ground and waiting out Kyiv and its allies, Olaf Scholz said, insisting that the West would not stand for a "diktat," or dictated, peace forced on the country.
Ukraine's President Voldomyr said last week that Kyiv would not trade territory for peace with Russia, telling Italy's RAI television that he had been asked by French President Emmanuel Macron to consider doing so.
The French government has denied that any such suggestion had been made. On Monday, Scholz said that such stealth border changes would not be accepted by the West if Ukraine objected to them.
And like I said the Baltics haven't been hosting such weapons, so why would NATO start with Ukraine?
NATO has never invaded another European country since its creation. I can't for the life of me think why it would start with an extremely large one with 2,000 nuclear warheads, or how it would get the idea past 30+ individual democratic parliaments either.
It's Russian imperialism, plain and simple, there are no valid excuses.
Russia is putting all its manufacturing resources into building T-90Ms. Is this:
a) Because they've hardly lost any tanks in Ukraine;
b) Because they still have plenty of operational tanks despite losses in Ukraine;
c) Because T-14s are a brilliant finished article; or
d) None of the above?
a) Because they've hardly lost any tanks in Ukraine;
b) Because they still have plenty of operational tanks despite losses in Ukraine;
c) Because T-14s are a brilliant finished article; or
d) None of the above?