Ukraine - Russia Conflict

That's not how it works. You know what it takes to reach that level? That means moving/dispersing your strategic forces around like mobile launchers and getting bombers on alert status getting important people moved all that is easily detected by US STRATCOM and other US intel agencies including European ones. If Russia was equivalent to DEFCON-2 Biden would be airborne and STRATCOM aircraft.

Here in San Diego Naval ships would be making a Beeline out of the bay right now.

We will know how the US has reacted only tomorrow though.

Or both could be at DEFCON 3 level.
 
If the United States wants to save Ukraine, it will directly send an SBCT to western Ukraine, so that at least the west bank of the Dnieper can be saved,
If the U.S. wants to get Russia to the last drop of blood, then it'd better provide a batch of Javelin and Stinger missiles as soon as possible
This simple ATGM is more effective than any aircraft tank

Javelin's and stingers have been arriving in Ukraine.
The time window is still closing, and the Russian troops deployed in the Brest region may go south at any time to capture Lviv, then the border will be blocked, and we will see the confrontation between NATO and the Russian armored forces again.

Those forces in Brest region will be slowed down just like the rest of their forces and Russia doesn't have enough forces or air superiority to stop weapons from coming in from Ukraine's long western border.
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But unfortunately you are likely right... Once Russia moves to take Lviv a likely shooting incident will likely take place between Russia and NATO. However Lviv is a long way from Belarus border and it is very likely they may never get there.
 
We will know how the US has reacted only tomorrow though.

Or both could be at DEFCON 3 level.
US/SAC and 6th Fleet reached DEFCON 3 during Yom Kippur war and September 11th 2001. DEFCON 2 was Cuban missile crisis and SAC got airborne when DEFCON2 was ordered.

We're not even close to being there yet.
 
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Javelin's and stingers have been arriving in Ukraine.
Some people say that Russia dispatched an electronic jamming vehicle that can release aerogel to interfere with the infrared imaging seeker, which means that the javelin may not be effective, but attacking artillery and motorized infantry should be effective
In addition to the voluntary abandonment of the Russian army, Ukraine should destroy less than 20 Russian tanks now, so the number of ATGMs is not enough
Those forces in Brest region will be slowed down just like the rest of their forces and Russia doesn't have enough forces or air superiority to stop weapons from coming in from Ukraine's long western border.
The key is that there is no Ukrainian army there, only a small number of Ukrainian militias, which cannot stop the Russian army at all.
Ukraine foolishly concentrated all its troops on the Donbas front, and there were no reserves at all,
 
However Lviv is a long way from Belarus border and it is very likely they may never get there.
The Russian army can assault from Crimea to Zaporozhye in 72 hours
Then I also believe that they will be able to raid Lviv in a very short time, especially if it is not defended
 
Russia spent 8 years building up 630 billion dollar war chest to have 400 billion taken away in a snap of a fingers.

Slava Ukraini.
 
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Russia spent 8 years building up 630 billion dollar war chest to have 400 billion taken away in a snap of a fingers.

Slava Ukraini.
Believe me, within the next 72 hours, the main Ukrainian force will be surrounded and the government of Kiev will surrender
If it weren't for the picture of the T80BVM yesterday, I would not have known that the 4th Guards Tank Division had already left Kharkov and crossed the Dnieper River.
How many ghost-like BTGs are in Russia doing interspersed operations?
 
Some people say that Russia dispatched an electronic jamming vehicle that can release aerogel to interfere with the infrared imaging seeker, which means that the javelin may not be effective, but attacking artillery and motorized infantry should be effective
In addition to the voluntary abandonment of the Russian army, Ukraine should destroy less than 20 Russian tanks now, so the number of ATGMs is not enough

The majority of Russian armored vehicle kills are from Javelin's and NLAWS and a day ago Lithuanian trucks carrying Javs arrived.
The key is that there is no Ukrainian army there, only a small number of Ukrainian militias, which cannot stop the Russian army at all.
Ukraine foolishly concentrated all its troops on the Donbas front, and there were no reserves at all,

No. During a report by Fox Mike Tobin he was asked by the anchor why no UK troops in the city of Lviv and he stupidly said they are in the outskirts of the city and area. He was talking about Ukraine's 3rd Territorial battalion.

Ukraine is not fighting head on against Russian armor they are letting Russian armor in and hitting Russian logistics which is having a domino effect. Ukraine hasn't used any of their armor brigades in offensive operations. Russians did destroy a convoy of UK T-64BV on a highway on first day of war heading likely to their hidden positions. But that has been the only time a significant group of UK tanks have been taken out.
 
Believe me, within the next 72 hours, the main Ukrainian force will be surrounded and the government of Kiev will surrender
If it weren't for the picture of the T80BVM yesterday, I would not have known that the 4th Guards Tank Division had already left Kharkov and crossed the Dnieper River.
How many ghost-like BTGs are in Russia doing interspersed operations?

How many special forces do you think Russia has left?

Day 1, 200 VDV assault and airbase and are nearly wiped out before tank relief. Completely combat ineffective anymore.


All those guys we saw on the TV are dead lmao.

Russians randomly sending Spetsnaz into Kharkiv out of all places and getting wiped out?


Getting themselves tiktoked and then wiped out literally 25 minutes later.

I have no doubt Russia is heavy heavy favorites, but that's entirely due to their overwhelming mass.

if you're gonna try to convince someone here that the Russians are tactically brilliant at the lower leadership level, pls go to Pakistan forum. They buy stuff a lot easier.

See the key thing for the ghost division is it was driving the decisive dash to the river breakthrough. Good job. Have fun with more logistics while Kharkiv is a meat grinder.


Russian tactics haven't advanced much pass this.

 
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Putin was calling Ukranians as Nazis and drug addicts

His Army is full of Retarded idiots

How can you send large vehicles without infantry protection and then not get wiped out

See Russia did you one better. They went back to the drawing board, top generals came up with a plan, and then sent in infantry with jeeps instead.

I think for Russia, walking and chewing gum is difficult.
 
How many special forces do you think Russia has left?

Day 1, 200 VDV assault and airbase and are nearly wiped out before tank relief. Completely combat ineffective anymore.


All those guys we saw on the TV are dead lmao.

Russians randomly sending Spetsnaz into Kharkiv out of all places and getting wiped out?


Getting themselves tiktoked and then wiped out literally 25 minutes later.

I have no doubt Russia is heavy heavy favorites, but that's entirely due to their overwhelming mass.

if you're gonna try to convince someone here that the Russians are tactically brilliant at the lower leadership level, pls go to Pakistan forum. They buy stuff a lot easier.

See the key thing for the ghost division is it was driving the decisive dash to the river breakthrough. Good job. Have fun with more logistics while Kharkiv is a meat grinder.


Russian tactics haven't advanced much pass this.

Let’s talk about the first day. Although there were flaws in the airborne, the purpose of the campaign has been achieved. All roads out of Kiev have been blocked, and Kiev will basically be encircled.
Secondly, Kharkov, don't you think that sending a few GRUs will make you want to attack and occupy Kharkov? There are three Ukrainian brigades in the city
This is just a reconnaissance detachment, and there is no blood on the armored vehicle at all. The Ukrainian side did not show the corpses of the Russian army. They only showed a few Russian prisoners of war who do not know the truth.
In the next few days, some light armored vehicles will enter Kharkov. Squeeze the living space of the Ukrainian army, but in fact they have perished, because until the end of the war, they can only hide in the city and cannot come out
 
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Morale and tactical safety is a huge reason for Russian underperformance no doubt.

Let’s talk about the first day. Although there were flaws in the airborne, the purpose of the campaign has been achieved. All roads out of Kiev have been blocked, and Kiev will basically be encircled.
Secondly, Kharkov, don't you think that sending a few GRUs will make you want to attack and occupy Kharkov? There are three Ukrainian brigades in the city
This is just a reconnaissance detachment, and there is no blood on the armored vehicle at all. The Ukrainian side did not show the corpses of the Russian army. They only showed a few Russian prisoners of war who do not know the truth.
In the next few days, some light armored vehicles will enter Kharkov. Squeeze the living space of the Ukrainian army, but in fact they have perished, because until the end of the war, they can only hide in the city and cannot come out

Bruh you're crazy, it's a kongo line convoy isolated in a random neighborhood.

Russians are meat like us all. You shoot them a hole appears.
 
Bruh you're crazy, it's a kongo line convoy isolated in a random neighborhood.

Russians are meat like us all. You shoot them a hole appears.
I will not mention the Chinese tactical model.
If I remember correctly, the first American army to enter Basra in 2003 was a reconnaissance unit of the Marine Corps, and they didn't even have a Humvee, so they could only use ATVs, which was worse than the GRU,
Use armored units to blindly storm heavily defended cities, refer to the first Chechnya battle