Ukraine - Russia Conflict
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I think you need to watch your language here. Difference of opinion has nothing to do with the mental abilities of a person. @Mods.
Pantsir missile system - Wikipedia
Disastrous performance for the Pantsir missile system.
A lot of Russian tech has failed in combat. You can bet a lot is being known of those abandon SAMs and latest MBTs by NATO. AS of today Russia still doesn't have air superiority as Ukrainian SU-25s and SU-24s hit that convoy north of Kyiv. Where's the Russian air force? Where's the Russian EW capability to interfere against Ukrainian drones that are causing so much havoc?Pantsir missile system - Wikipedia
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Disastrous performance for the Pantsir missile system.
Gantz says Iran nuclear deal could be signed within days
Defense minister vows Israel to continue to act 'whether [an agreement] happens or not'; on Ukraine, he says Jewish state a partner to international effort to restore order
www.timesofisrael.com
Not exactly related to Russia/Ukraine, but whatever.
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Thoughtful though confused reaction to Mearshimer's theory. Harps a lot on idealism in world geopolitics. Misses the wood for the trees.
Real pity sweetie, that in spite of Ru junk they managed to thwart US plans of regime change in Syria. Why do you suppose that happened?
What's all this got to do with the current conflict Paddy? Who here is awarding certificates for good behavior? Putin is an autocrat & behaves exactly as one.
Ukraine has had a real problem with elections, crony capitalism, massive corruption etc much before the present crisis began or even before 2014 .
What's being discussed is blatant western chicanery & hypocrisy?! You can't pretend to be an actor acting in good faith with the kind of record you have especially in Ukraine when you did in 2014 what you did.
Is that so difficult to comprehend?
What's the connection to the post of the member you've quoted, you fool? He's pointing out towards our relationship & goodwill with Russia & Ukraine which has helped us evacuate nearly 20000 of our citizens there. You're bringing up morality.If all the opposition MPs in your country suddenly died, how would you feel about your leader?
These are the prominent critics and enemies Putin is suspected of having killed
Vladimir Putin's enemies often get killed under mysterious circumstances. There are at least 13 people Putin is suspected of having assassinated.www.businessinsider.com
List of journalists killed in Russia - Wikipedia
It's ridiculous that you believe anything such a person says.
While on the subject, even if one buys your nonsensical theories about UK harbouring Russian dissidents whom the Russian State were guilty of assassination on your soil what explains the presence of all those fugitives from justice India in the UK ? These aren't just economic offenders but also narcotics smugglers, terrorists etc & this isn't even a recent phenomenon. This goes back right to the Khalistani movement in the late 1970's in India where in spite of repeated requests from Indian authorities for their deportation to face trial in India all these offers were stonewalled up until the assassination of Ms Indira Gandhi.
Remember Lockerbie. Well there's a precedent for that too. The Kanishka bombing which claimed the lives of 300+ Indians nearly half of them Canadians of Indian origins for which exactly 1 person was convicted to a few years in prison & he too was let out after serving some time for good behavior.
Now unless it's the contention of the UK that the Indian system is similar to the Russians we're still awaiting a better response from the authorities in UK.
And we're supposed to believe that UK acts in good faith on the word of a sold out Irish who identifies so completely with a British identity & it's policies willingly playing the role a British apologist. @Amal
I'd actually say the US wanted Ukraine to be invaded, so they can sanction Russia and cut them off from the rest of the world.
Pushing a country towards China is not a good thing for that country.
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An attack on Ru assets or forces anywhere in the world just as an attack on British forces & assets anywhere in the world is liable to be treated in similar fashion with both countries invoking N first use in compliance with it's N doctrine. After all except for India & China none of the other N powers have eschewed the first strike principle.
Haven't we asked you not to comment on matters beyond your scope of narrow comprehension time & again Paddy?
I believe Iran has more chances (more to negociate, and not geographically located into the “us’s garden”), than Venezuela.He's talking thru his hat. If the rouble comes crashing down that means exports become cheaper - the intrinsic value being the same which is of course a loss in value & consequently earnings . There are huge downsides to a falling rouble not the least of which is runaway inflation.
Russia's ruble worth less than 1 cent after West tightens sanctions
A sharp fall in Russia's currency could cause inflation in the country to surge and strain its financial system.www.cbsnews.com
Huns & Mongols thrived on looting not on exporting gas.The former is a war economy not the latter. What's Russia going to loot from Ukraine ? Besides Russia will be spending a lot to pacify Ukraine , rebuild it's infrastructure & in re armament of it's armed forces.
God forbid ! If there's an insurgency which looks a distinct possibility at this point in time the costs shoot up but Russia could impose costs across much of Eastern Europe too. Then there are good chances of this spreading to other parts of Europe as well . Both parties need to arrive at a modus vivendi post war ASAP. Easier said than done with all the bad blood between both parties.
If Russia raises prices on gas or oil , Europe shifts some of their business elsewhere. This is going to cut both ways.
Till such time as oil & gas prices don't stabilize , there will be tremendous pressure to at least get Iran or Venezuela out of the proscribed list . I don't think the World will tolerate more sanctions especially if the whole world's coming out of a depressed economy for the past 2 yrs courtesy the Wuhan virus.
Iran or Venezuela or both gain big time .
Concerning European supply in gaz, there was a project called EASTMED, but has been murdered:
EastMed: A pipeline project that ran afoul of geopolitics and green policies
The US is backing away from the contentious energy scheme.
Gantz says Iran nuclear deal could be signed within days
Defense minister vows Israel to continue to act 'whether [an agreement] happens or not'; on Ukraine, he says Jewish state a partner to international effort to restore order
Not exactly related to Russia/Ukraine, but whatever.
Yeah, it will be good news for India.
Wonder what will be the final outcome. After US led NATO's realisation, post their immature gloating of RuA's initial failures, that Putin's army is looking to strangulate Ukraine and destroy infrastructure to bring it to heel, it will fund an insurgency. Moscow knows that it cannot manage this insurgency. It might install a puppet government, but it is doomed to fall if it seeks to administer the whole of Ukraine.
I think that Moscow will install a puppet regime headquartered at Kyiv which on paper will have lordship over the whole of Ukraine. This regime will serve to create a buffer zone consisting of eastern Ukraine and leave western Ukraine to be under the defacto control of NATO. Moscow will exert control over the eastern part, and sustain the puppet government. This will allow Putin to continuously try to fight the NATO led insurgency by claiming that NATO's support for Ukraine is illegal. The west will have to pump in enormous sums of money to rebuild the western part of Ukraine, and this will be very difficult given the high levels of corruption.
The world is witnessing the whole of Ukraine being destroyed by the US led NATO and Russia.
Don't know what is going to happen to Russia's economy and whether Putin will survive the after-effects of this war.
I think that Moscow will install a puppet regime headquartered at Kyiv which on paper will have lordship over the whole of Ukraine. This regime will serve to create a buffer zone consisting of eastern Ukraine and leave western Ukraine to be under the defacto control of NATO. Moscow will exert control over the eastern part, and sustain the puppet government. This will allow Putin to continuously try to fight the NATO led insurgency by claiming that NATO's support for Ukraine is illegal. The west will have to pump in enormous sums of money to rebuild the western part of Ukraine, and this will be very difficult given the high levels of corruption.
The world is witnessing the whole of Ukraine being destroyed by the US led NATO and Russia.
Don't know what is going to happen to Russia's economy and whether Putin will survive the after-effects of this war.
Actually it does. Many educated people in the UK were against the invasion of Iraq, even I would say it was a horrible waste of resources, in both the UK and US people and politicians were highly outspoken about this, and none of them have ended up killed. In Russia all strong political opponents wind up dead, as do journalists. That is why not a single educated person in the UK will believe anything Putin says despite how critical they are of their own governments on many issues from Iraq to Brexit. If you trust Putin you're simply dumb by any rational standards for these very reasons.
We've got money though, so we don't care, also lots of gas in the North Sea.
They wouldn't be attacking Russia itself though, they'd be attacking an occupation in Ukraine. The choice for Russia would be lose Ukraine or get Russia melted. It's managed without Ukraine for 8 years, so that would seem like a better option.