Ukraine - Russia Conflict

yes , any other country which tries to pull a ukraine will know what they will end up with.

Lol What is a "pulling a Ukraine?" What did Ukraine pull on Russia to get them invaded, darling?
If russia had not done this then other states would soon do the same thing. More than russia it is the US which has lost its face, sooner or later taiwan will patch up with china instead of believing the hollow western promises.
Wow you really live in a delusional reality. No adult sounds this dopey.
 
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US won the afghan war, no doubt on it. Yup,They failed to keep away Taliban forever. Here in for Russia, 80% of Ukranian land is inaccessible to Russians , even after 7 months of continuing war. That was not the case with US in Afghan & Iraq.
And true weapons alone cannot win war, that what you are seeing now. Russian soldiers are getting killed, & they exhausted too. Now Putin forced to call Reserve soldiers. Now use your logic to find wheather Afghan & Ukrain invasion have any similarities?

Agreed, but its mf cruiser.

Who is telling these things here now?its the Russian fan boys.
Russia left the areas they captured earlier to Ukrain, reserve battalian is called to Battle field, put a ban on Russian youths to go abroad via airport, convoys are heading towards Georgia from Russia, Putin indirectly giving the hind of nuking. Tell me who is losing here?
seems you have drunk more western kool aid kid.
Lol What is a "pulling a Ukraine?" What did Ukraine pull on Russia to get them invaded, darling?

Wow you really live in a delusional reality. No adult sounds this dopey.
yes its called dollar drug.
 
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Talking to some educated people(College Professors & School Teachers) plus some regular folks regarding this Russo-Ukraine war. Few points are absolutely unanimously agreed upon:

1. Everyone believes that Russia was forced by USA into this war.

2. USA is the real evil. An evil which we need to watch out for in future too.

3. Russia is fighting for its existence and their actions are justified.

4. Zelensky is a fool and a sell-out. He reminds us of a very popular neta who happens to hail from our capital.

5. Indians should support Russia as Russia's survival is very important for ours too.


These views are from average Indians and resonate with our society.
 
ever heard of a country called bangladesh?



does it look like they care?
Even if they lose 500k and capture ukraine, who is the winner here?

denial,anger, delusion, bargaining, acceptance - west is in the first stage.
Bangladesh didn't have a border with NATO, or even Pakistan for that matter.

Russia, but it is their smartest and brightest who are leaving.
 
pity that nato after throwing so much resources can still only hold back russia.

World war 2 should remind Nato of the fact that it took so many states to defeat one country called germany.
why not just surrender to putin uncle and ask for forgiveness before the winter arrives ? 🤣
Nah, we're just going to sit back and watch Russia implode as thousands of untrained people pulled off the street get murdered and Putin gets dragged out of the Kremlin and has a pole inserted in his backside a la Gaddafi.
I asked for facts not your fantasies. Ukraine is in shambles and if russia decides they can turn even the northen part into stone age ruins. All that they need to do is keep firing artillery rockets from their border.
The crazy thing is, Putin has done more damage to Russia since 2013 than all his missiles have done to Ukraine. Units firing artillery over the border are fair game.
I think there has been a replacement, a new guy is in charge now.
Yeah. Putin is probably running it directly now.
 
so you dont see any pattern here? any one who try's to help russia is getting into chao's.
Because they're insane, that's the pattern. All the people supporting Russia are all insane. Are you going to tell me that the US made Iranian police beat a woman to death for wearing her hijab wrong? Go on please. :D
 
Talking to some educated people(College Professors & School Teachers) plus some regular folks regarding this Russo-Ukraine war. Few points are absolutely unanimously agreed upon:

1. Everyone believes that Russia was forced by USA into this war.

2. USA is the real evil. An evil which we need to watch out for in future too.

3. Russia is fighting for its existence and their actions are justified.

4. Zelensky is a fool and a sell-out. He reminds us of a very popular neta who happens to hail from our capital.

5. Indians should support Russia as Russia's survival is very important for ours too.


These views are from average Indians and resonate with our society.
What about Transnistria, South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Crimea?

The truth is Russia forced both the Maidan revolution and the war. In 2013 he interfered with Ukrainian politics and the people didn't like it. Then when Yanukovych left, Putin began invading parts of Ukraine, hence causing any Russophobia that then manifested.

Russia is not fighting for its existence. Nobody has put 1 single foot in Russian territory. You would need to be on bath salts to believe this. Putin is the greatest threat to Russian existence.

Zelensky is democratically elected.

Not really, you are just overly reliant on them due to laziness. Besides, if Russia actually is your friend, you should want them to lose quickly, because a long war will be far worse for them.



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This was in early May. How many have left now?

Putin is defending ethnic Russians in other countries by forcing actual Russians to leave Russia. Show me the logic here. :unsure:
 
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There is a Ukrainian breakthrough north of Lyman. With the Russian defence lines broken I imagine they will still have some momentum if a counter offensive doesn't push them back (and lately few Russian counter offensives seem to have been successful).

In fact, I am convinced that the Russians in this whole area have no lines of defence. There was one that was naturally frozen by the Russian offensive limits, but behind it was always a big gap.

It was for these reasons that the Ukrainian breakthrough of the line around Kharkiv made an important opening leading to the collapse of the whole Russian device. Then the Ukrainians stopped along the river, the Russians didn't stop them, they stopped because that was most certainly their objective, an objective that went faster than they thought. So they have capitalised on their gains, they are re-grouping, preparing themselves, recovering the Russian abandonments, searching the annexed areas around Kharkiv which have also been abandoned. Meanwhile the military leaders are making a new plan. The Ukrainians are doing the right thing, not rushing, consolidating their gains, settling down to redo their tactics.

The Russians on the other side, due to the lack of serious defensive positions, are in a bad position, yesterday's aircraft losses in this area illustrate a vacuum of means that pushes the aircraft to take significant risks, they simply have no other options.

It is also this offensive that precipitated Russia to mobilize and organize referendums, they were aware that the Ukrainians have a boulevard in front of them in this area, that the troops of the Kherson pocket are almost trapped and that elsewhere in the South, it is very likely that by piercing the Russian defensive line, the Ukrainians could open a defensive vacuum allowing it to advance as in Kharkiv. Putin is therefore trying to stop the Ukrainians by playing the famous refrain "it's Russia, don't touch me or I'll make a mess of it", playing on the mass of mobilized people to show that it's getting serious. The Russian objective is an attempt at dissuasion to avoid losing the war, a will to take some territories to explain to the Russians that they have "won" even though it is far from what they really wanted to do at the very beginning.

I think that the Kremlin is convinced that it will impose a brake on the Ukrainians to stop the war, I think that they think that declaring these territories as Russian territories will have an effect, that the hundreds of thousands of conscripts will scare them. If this is the case, that this mobilisation is only a dissuasion mobilisation by which it is not given any concrete military role, it will be neglected, they will be sent to Ukraine to make numbers and we will almost not care how they are equipped, trained, commanded. This is the scenario that Putin would like, the one where these referendums and this mobilisation leads Ukraine to capitulate and concede these territories.

But everything suggests that the Ukrainians are continuing the war, pushing the Kremlin to have to ultimately move the mass of conscripts from a position of almost "extras" that the Ukraine will avoid attacking for fear of attacking "Russian" territory to a mass of conscripts who find themselves under fire but are not at all ready. All of this could lead to a large number of human casualties, this mass of people who find themselves in these regions will be seen, there will be large groups, they will have to be housed, transported, etc. The Americans will do what they have been doing since the beginning, transmitting images and coordinates, and the Ukrainians will advertise the HIMARS again. In my opinion, this is another big Russian mistake, where this mass of conscripts will be neglected and thrown into a territory that they think will be safe after their referendums, that it will not be a new Russian army with all its armoured vehicles, artillery and so on that will land on the front, that it will be mostly troops in trucks.
 
There is a Ukrainian breakthrough north of Lyman. With the Russian defence lines broken I imagine they will still have some momentum if a counter offensive doesn't push them back (and lately few Russian counter offensives seem to have been successful).
I noticed this too, I have posted them in the last two livemap screenshots I uploaded. The referendums are nothing more than a sham because Russia is running scared. I mean, an authoritarian dictatorship invades a country and sets up a referendum? They must think the entire world is stupid.


Meanwhile, RT propaganda hub terminated:

I think it's a case that if he stops digging now he will get buried in the hole he dug, so he will just keep digging until the hole eventually collapses in on him.
 
Its called straw mans argument where west comforts itself with such statements, this war has been going on since 2014 and reached a flash point when ukraine amassed 60k troops for a military operation. Russia intervened and every thing went hay wire. West did the same thing in 1971 against India , dont expect any truth from them.
This has absolutely no similarities with the breakaway of East Pakistan, which was also >50 years ago.

There has been no mass genocide of ethnic Russians.

They won no election.

East Pakistan was not attached to the rest of Pakistan.



 
There is a Ukrainian breakthrough north of Lyman. With the Russian defence lines broken I imagine they will still have some momentum if a counter offensive doesn't push them back (and lately few Russian counter offensives seem to have been successful).

In fact, I am convinced that the Russians in this whole area have no lines of defence. There was one that was naturally frozen by the Russian offensive limits, but behind it was always a big gap.

It was for these reasons that the Ukrainian breakthrough of the line around Kharkiv made an important opening leading to the collapse of the whole Russian device. Then the Ukrainians stopped along the river, the Russians didn't stop them, they stopped because that was most certainly their objective, an objective that went faster than they thought. So they have capitalised on their gains, they are re-grouping, preparing themselves, recovering the Russian abandonments, searching the annexed areas around Kharkiv which have also been abandoned. Meanwhile the military leaders are making a new plan. The Ukrainians are doing the right thing, not rushing, consolidating their gains, settling down to redo their tactics.

The Russians on the other side, due to the lack of serious defensive positions, are in a bad position, yesterday's aircraft losses in this area illustrate a vacuum of means that pushes the aircraft to take significant risks, they simply have no other options.

It is also this offensive that precipitated Russia to mobilize and organize referendums, they were aware that the Ukrainians have a boulevard in front of them in this area, that the troops of the Kherson pocket are almost trapped and that elsewhere in the South, it is very likely that by piercing the Russian defensive line, the Ukrainians could open a defensive vacuum allowing it to advance as in Kharkiv. Putin is therefore trying to stop the Ukrainians by playing the famous refrain "it's Russia, don't touch me or I'll make a mess of it", playing on the mass of mobilized people to show that it's getting serious. The Russian objective is an attempt at dissuasion to avoid losing the war, a will to take some territories to explain to the Russians that they have "won" even though it is far from what they really wanted to do at the very beginning.

I think that the Kremlin is convinced that it will impose a brake on the Ukrainians to stop the war, I think that they think that declaring these territories as Russian territories will have an effect, that the hundreds of thousands of conscripts will scare them. If this is the case, that this mobilisation is only a dissuasion mobilisation by which it is not given any concrete military role, it will be neglected, they will be sent to Ukraine to make numbers and we will almost not care how they are equipped, trained, commanded. This is the scenario that Putin would like, the one where these referendums and this mobilisation leads Ukraine to capitulate and concede these territories.

But everything suggests that the Ukrainians are continuing the war, pushing the Kremlin to have to ultimately move the mass of conscripts from a position of almost "extras" that the Ukraine will avoid attacking for fear of attacking "Russian" territory to a mass of conscripts who find themselves under fire but are not at all ready. All of this could lead to a large number of human casualties, this mass of people who find themselves in these regions will be seen, there will be large groups, they will have to be housed, transported, etc. The Americans will do what they have been doing since the beginning, transmitting images and coordinates, and the Ukrainians will advertise the HIMARS again. In my opinion, this is another big Russian mistake, where this mass of conscripts will be neglected and thrown into a territory that they think will be safe after their referendums, that it will not be a new Russian army with all its armoured vehicles, artillery and so on that will land on the front, that it will be mostly troops in trucks.
Russian air force has been MIA in this war for obvious reasons their appearance yesterday shows how desperate Russian forces are in the east that they sacrificed their best 4th gen multirole fighters to try to slow down Ukraine.

Funny thing is Ukraine was more than likely expecting these Russian fighter to show up thanks to US/NATO ISR.