Ukraine - Russia Conflict

UN is irrelevant thats how it was designed by the major powers. Stop cribbing abt veto , US & west have done the same as well to say only russia does is nonsense & pure wicked propaganda.
Russia has done it far more times than anyone else. In the last 10 years:

8 July 2022S/2022/538S/PV.9087The situation in the Middle East
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26 May 2022S/2022/431S/PV.9048Non-proliferation/Democratic People's Republic of Korea
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China
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25 February 2022S/2022/155S/PV.8979Letter dated 28 February 2014 from the Permanent Representative of Ukraine to the United Nations addressed to the President of the Security Council (S/2014/136). (2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine)
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13 December 2021S/2021/990S/PV.8926Maintenance of international peace and security: Climate and security
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31 August 2020S/2020/852S/2020/870
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Threats to international peace and security caused by terrorist attacks
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10 July 2020S/2020/667S/2020/693
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Humanitarian access to Syria
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China
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7 July 2020S/2020/654S/2020/661
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Humanitarian access to Syria
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20 December 2019S/2019/961S/PV.8697Humanitarian access to Syria (via borders with Iraq and Turkey)
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19 September 2019S/2019/756S/PV.8623The situation in the Middle East (concerning the Northwestern Syria offensive, part of the ongoing Syrian Civil War) China
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28 February 2019S/2019/186S/PV.8476The situation in the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela (concerning the Venezuelan presidential crisis and the results of the 2018 presidential election) China
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1 June 2018S/2018/516S/PV.8274Middle East situation, including the Palestinian question (concerning the 2018 Gaza border protests) United States
10 April 2018S/2018/321S/PV.8228The Situation in the Middle East (Use of chemical weapons in the Syrian Civil War) Russia
26 February 2018S/2018/156S/PV.8190Sanctions against Yemen (Yemeni Civil War (2015–present)) Russia
18 December 2017S/2017/1060S/PV.8139Middle East situation, including the Palestinian question (concerning the United States recognition of Jerusalem as Israeli capital) United States
17 November 2017S/2017/970S/PV.8107Middle East (Use of chemical weapons in the Syrian Civil War) Russia
16 November 2017S/2017/962S/PV.8105Middle East (Use of chemical weapons in the Syrian Civil War) Russia
24 October 2017S/2017/884S/PV.8073Middle East (Use of chemical weapons in the Syrian Civil War) Russia
12 April 2017S/2017/315S/PV.7922Middle East (Use of chemical weapons in the Syrian Civil War) Russia
28 February 2017S/2017/172S/PV.7893Middle East (Use of chemical weapons in the Syrian Civil War) China
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5 December 2016S/2016/1026S/PV.7825Middle East (Syrian Civil War) China
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8 October 2016S/2016/846S/PV.7785Middle East (Syrian Civil War) Russia
29 July 2015S/2015/562S/PV.7498Letter dated 28 February 2014 from the Permanent Representative of Ukraine to the United Nations addressed to the President of the Security Council (S/2014/136). (downing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH 17) Russia
8 July 2015S/2015/508S/PV.7481The situation in Bosnia and Herzegovina (20th anniversary of the Srebrenica massacre during the Bosnian War) Russia
22 May 2014S/2014/348S/PV.7180Middle East - Syria (Syrian Civil War) China
Russia
15 March 2014S/2014/189S/PV.7138Letter dated 28 February 2014 from the Permanent Representative of Ukraine to the United Nations addressed to the President of the Security Council (S/2014/136). (concerning the Russian annexation of the Crimean peninsula) Russia
19 July 2012S/2012/538S/PV.6810Middle East - Syria (Syrian Civil War) China
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4 February 2012S/2012/77S/PV.6711Middle East - Syria (Syrian Civil War) China
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4 October 2011S/2011/612S/PV.6627Middle East - Syria (Syrian Civil War) China
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Russia has done it far more times than anyone else. In the last 10 years:

8 July 2022S/2022/538S/PV.9087The situation in the Middle East
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Russia
26 May 2022S/2022/431S/PV.9048Non-proliferation/Democratic People's Republic of Korea
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China
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Russia
25 February 2022S/2022/155S/PV.8979Letter dated 28 February 2014 from the Permanent Representative of Ukraine to the United Nations addressed to the President of the Security Council (S/2014/136). (2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine)
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Russia
13 December 2021S/2021/990S/PV.8926Maintenance of international peace and security: Climate and security
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Russia
31 August 2020S/2020/852S/2020/870
S/2020/865
Threats to international peace and security caused by terrorist attacks
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United States
10 July 2020S/2020/667S/2020/693
S/2020/681
Humanitarian access to Syria
23px-Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China.svg.png
China
23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png
Russia
7 July 2020S/2020/654S/2020/661
S/2020/657
Humanitarian access to Syria
23px-Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China.svg.png
China
23px-Flag_of_Russia.svg.png
Russia
20 December 2019S/2019/961S/PV.8697Humanitarian access to Syria (via borders with Iraq and Turkey)
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China
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Russia
19 September 2019S/2019/756S/PV.8623The situation in the Middle East (concerning the Northwestern Syria offensive, part of the ongoing Syrian Civil War)China
Russia
28 February 2019S/2019/186S/PV.8476The situation in the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela (concerning the Venezuelan presidential crisis and the results of the 2018 presidential election)China
Russia
1 June 2018S/2018/516S/PV.8274Middle East situation, including the Palestinian question (concerning the 2018 Gaza border protests)United States
10 April 2018S/2018/321S/PV.8228The Situation in the Middle East (Use of chemical weapons in the Syrian Civil War)Russia
26 February 2018S/2018/156S/PV.8190Sanctions against Yemen (Yemeni Civil War (2015–present))Russia
18 December 2017S/2017/1060S/PV.8139Middle East situation, including the Palestinian question (concerning the United States recognition of Jerusalem as Israeli capital)United States
17 November 2017S/2017/970S/PV.8107Middle East (Use of chemical weapons in the Syrian Civil War)Russia
16 November 2017S/2017/962S/PV.8105Middle East (Use of chemical weapons in the Syrian Civil War)Russia
24 October 2017S/2017/884S/PV.8073Middle East (Use of chemical weapons in the Syrian Civil War)Russia
12 April 2017S/2017/315S/PV.7922Middle East (Use of chemical weapons in the Syrian Civil War)Russia
28 February 2017S/2017/172S/PV.7893Middle East (Use of chemical weapons in the Syrian Civil War)China
Russia
5 December 2016S/2016/1026S/PV.7825Middle East (Syrian Civil War)China
Russia
8 October 2016S/2016/846S/PV.7785Middle East (Syrian Civil War)Russia
29 July 2015S/2015/562S/PV.7498Letter dated 28 February 2014 from the Permanent Representative of Ukraine to the United Nations addressed to the President of the Security Council (S/2014/136). (downing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH 17)Russia
8 July 2015S/2015/508S/PV.7481The situation in Bosnia and Herzegovina (20th anniversary of the Srebrenica massacre during the Bosnian War)Russia
22 May 2014S/2014/348S/PV.7180Middle East - Syria (Syrian Civil War)China
Russia
15 March 2014S/2014/189S/PV.7138Letter dated 28 February 2014 from the Permanent Representative of Ukraine to the United Nations addressed to the President of the Security Council (S/2014/136). (concerning the Russian annexation of the Crimean peninsula)Russia
19 July 2012S/2012/538S/PV.6810Middle East - Syria (Syrian Civil War)China
Russia
4 February 2012S/2012/77S/PV.6711Middle East - Syria (Syrian Civil War)China
Russia
4 October 2011S/2011/612S/PV.6627Middle East - Syria (Syrian Civil War)China
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yeah most of these are related to ME and isnt it quite obvious who sponsored these useless resolutions. The very same ppl who went in search of weapons of mass destruction.
 
yeah it is terrible when the facts are stacked against the west. when have the crimes against humanity ever been accepted by the west? They either deny it or justify it by comparing it with others.

Have you ever seen such cheap ppl, gold,silver, diamonds ...etc all those expensive assets but ......stealing some ones stuff like nameplate on their house. yeah thats west for you, unlimited greed , morally bankrupt and totally inhumane.

Terrible arguments, because the facts prove you wrong. As far as things go, Russia is being supplied externally too. Fighters from Syria, Eritrea and Libya, drones from Iran.

Any mass graves or systematic rapes associated with the west recently?

Oh God, you bring up something from centuries ago. Technically France stole that anyway.... albeit >220 years ago. It's like some people on this forum exist permanently in the 18-19th century, and use their 'present' to explain the actual present. Which is why they can't understand anything properly.
yeah most of these are related to ME and isnt it quite obvious who sponsored these useless resolutions. The very same ppl who went in search of weapons of mass destruction.
And Saddam should have gone in 1991 anyway, so what's your point?
 
Price gouging, they always put the prices up early to pay for upstream costs in case the price does go up.
Not really, spot prices havent still hit the deck, still around 84 they havent not even breached 100.

US parted out some quantity from its strategic stock which had some effect on price. This time that wont happen.
 
Wouldnt that be better than being starved to death by the evil empire? 🤣
The problem with the west is they think they can white was their atrocities but highlight others. Colonialist countries have always indulged in mass killings to say germany was bad and west is good is not just outright immoral but totally inhumane.
Well 2 years after WWII you got independence, surely that's better than being gassed?

What about Indian massacres post independence? What about Hunger and famine related deaths post independence? Or slavery?


It's almost like you harp on about the west's distant past to whitewash your present and more recent past.
 
As far as things go, Russia is being supplied externally too. Fighters from Syria, Eritrea and Libya, drones from Iran.
Russia is buying they are not being supplied free of cost to further the war.
Any mass graves or systematic rapes associated with the west recently?
you mean in 300 years as you mentioned before ? 🤣
west has evolved now they dont do it directly but use their henchmen like zelensky , dictators who do the job effectively.
Oh God, you bring up something from centuries ago. Technically France stole that anyway.... albeit >220 years ago. It's like some people on this forum exist permanently in the 18-19th century, and use their 'present' to explain the actual present. Which is why they can't understand anything properly.
yeah we live in stone age , we steal other ppl's stone relics & artifacts. :)
 
What about Indian massacres post independence? What about Hunger and famine related deaths post independence? Or slavery?


It's almost like you harp on about the west's distant past to whitewash your present and more recent past.
as usual using some bland & factless estimates from baseless corner shops funded by west to keep you happy, thats why your arguments never get off the ground.
what next you are going to post some dumb picture of some slum area to soothe your ego?:rolleyes:
 
As I have repeated it is your western point of view world doesnt view that way as the facts dont support it. If you look at iraq , afghanistan or vietnam war US has carried out far more bombings on civilian areas. For example when exiting afghanistan on the last day US drone killed a bunch of children nothing surprising here. Western propaganda just wants to portray themselves as good guys by pushing other actions while masking their own bad deeds.
No they didn't. There were some isolated events due to mistakes but the events in this war are nowhere near isolated, there is massive use of unguided munitions in salvo on civilian areas and mass graves of civilians shot point blank (more than 6 mass graves now, >1000 unarmed people executed in cold blood in the space of 7 months. And they probably haven't found all the graves. That hardly compares with making an error when responding to a terror attack.
as usual using some bland & factless estimates from baseless corner shops funded by west to keep you happy, thats why your arguments never get off the ground.
what next you are going to post some dumb picture of some slum area to soothe your ego?:rolleyes:
You keep bringing up ancient history, but you don't want to talking about the present and more recent??? :ROFLMAO:
 
Russia is buying they are not being supplied free of cost to further the war.

you mean in 300 years as you mentioned before ? 🤣
west has evolved now they dont do it directly but use their henchmen like zelensky , dictators who do the job effectively.

yeah we live in stone age , we steal other ppl's stone relics & artifacts. :)
How many kg of fish did they exchange for them?

Yeah, sure they do. It's the west's fault that Ukraine wanted to join the EU and was invaded by Russia for it.

Did the Cholas steal anything?
 
How many kg of fish did they exchange for them?
everything you say stinks, this one smells fishy.
Yeah, sure they do. It's the west's fault that Ukraine wanted to join the EU
oh yeah west is a famous charity organization which does only good things. So why dint the nato mob accept membership of ukraine when zelensky applied few days back ?
Did the Cholas steal anything?
yeah they stole so much stuff that ppl in south east asia are raring to have a go at India , their navies have blockaded our coast. May be west should help them to fight India instead of china.
 
No they didn't. There were some isolated events due to mistakes but the events in this war are nowhere near isolated, there is massive use of unguided munitions in salvo on civilian areas and mass graves of civilians shot point blank (more than 6 mass graves now, >1000 unarmed people executed in cold blood in the space of 7 months. And they probably haven't found all the graves. That hardly compares with making an error when responding to a terror attack.
when it happens many times over different countries its neither a mistake nor an incident.
ou keep bringing up ancient history, but you don't want to talking about the present and more recent??? :ROFLMAO:
west hasnt changed much with time , have they ? They still act as parasites indulging in death & destruction like they did centuries ago. Nothing prevents US or EU countries living in peace in their own lands but they choose to interfere & involve in other countries. What business does US have in ukraine ,was bin laden reborn there? what would have been a short skirmish has now prolonged to more death & destruction. A knife fight has now become a nuclear brinkmanship.
john bolton ? why not his ex boss donald trump his advice will not just save earth but entire universe.
 
everything you say stinks, this one smells fishy.
Don't knock fish, for conscripts from Buryatia 1kg of fish = 18kg of Russia.
oh yeah west is a famous charity organization which does only good things. So why dint the nato mob accept membership of ukraine when zelensky applied few days back ?
Nobody said that. Because NATO doesn't just accept any application, accession is difficult. It took Sweden and Finland 6 months and they were fast-tracked as long-standing members of the EU.
yeah they stole so much stuff that ppl in south east asia are raring to have a go at India , their navies have blockaded our coast. May be west should help them to fight India instead of china.
Or maybe they don't harp on about the past as much as some.
 
Nobody said that. Because NATO doesn't just accept any application, accession is difficult. It took Sweden and Finland 6 months and they were fast-tracked as long-standing members of the EU
I suppose patient will be operated once he is dead and then a grand mourning ceremony will be held to blame russia. so nice.
Or maybe they don't harp on about the past as much as some.
If they did have anything to harp on west would not have missed a chance to make money out of it, I suppose its your loss.
 
when it happens many times over different countries its neither a mistake nor an incident.
How many times in the space of 6 months?
west hasnt changed much with time , have they ? They still act as parasites indulging in death & destruction like they did centuries ago. Nothing prevents US or EU countries living in peace in their own lands but they choose to interfere & involve in other countries. What business does US have in ukraine ,was bin laden reborn there? what would have been a short skirmish has now prolonged to more death & destruction. A knife fight has now become a nuclear brinkmanship.
West hasn't changed much since when? 1751? Well we're all democracies now, we have cars, planes, spacecraft, electricity, the internet, civil rights, welfare..... Other than that, not much no. :unsure:
john bolton ? why not his ex boss donald trump his advice will not just save earth but entire universe.
What about Modi's boss? Putin?
I suppose patient will be operated once he is dead and then a grand mourning ceremony will be held to blame russia. so nice.
So you think we should just let everyone into NATO, regardless of their regime?

If they did have anything to harp on west would not have missed a chance to make money out of it, I suppose its your loss.
Or maybe the internet didn't exist centuries/millennia ago.
 
West hasn't changed much since when? 1751? Well we're all democracies now, we have cars, planes, spacecraft, electricity, the internet, civil rights, welfare..... Other than that, not much no.
yeah if planes , cars are indication of human advancement then egyptians with their giant pyramids, chariots already had surpassed every thing before 2000 years. . West can reach moon but their behavior will still be inhumane, nothing will stop them from supporting some dictator or destabilizing some other country which is no where near them.
What about Modi's boss? Putin?
confusing us for britons, amercias pooch.
So you think we should just let everyone into NATO, regardless of their regime?
you mean to say zelensky is a dictator not worthy of EU standards of democracy then why support him in that case?
Or maybe the internet didn't exist centuries/millennia ago.
sun did exist then so did truth & false hood. Its just the enlightenment takes time.



Next war will be more brutal, with more technologies getting tested & refined. countries will go back to drawing table and come back with more practical ones to fight long war of attrition. West has just opened a pandora's box, russia will now take all the experience and try to iron out the kinks in its force & technology.