Ukraine - Russia Conflict

Yeas i said, i dont need to conduct any survey to know that.
So how do get that information?
If i said Indians are one who give least importance to cleanliness, will you ask for survy details or if i said indians are least bothered about road rules & dont cate about ambulance siren, will you aske for evidence?
Yup! You are claiming that we are at the bottom in this and that metrics. Show me evidence...
I know most of the indians are racial mentality & were dare to express it. I know this became, i lived here & my interaction with people taught me this bitter fact.
And how many abroad countries you have been to? All 206,I highly doubt that.
 
So how do get that information?

Yup! You are claiming that we are at the bottom in this and that metrics. Show me evidence...

And how many abroad countries you have been to? All 206,I highly doubt that.
Its easy to deny facts by telling that there is survey is available. But reality is so different.
 
I am just wondering, where are those S400, S500s plus the Su30s and Su35 , SSN and SSBNs , long range BM's and nested radar system plus the Russian AWACS to counter Drones over Ukrainian airspace in BVR mode?

More over the fall out of this war will be seen in Kashmir very soon. Pakistan has been given freehand by the NATO to do whatever in Kashmir. Now India has really a big headache coming up.

Modi need's to make sure that he does listen to specialists and give them go ahead. Aisa kaam nai chalna warna.
 
The lesson is simple, in modern world no country will be able to conquer even the smallest & weakest military if the later one is have good leadership, pool of people with immense willingness to fight & unlimited weapon supply.
I believe Chinese will also face the same fate if NATO or anyone else tried to give weapon support to Taiwan in case of invasion. Even US would have struggled in Iraq if Russians had supplied weapons to Iraq.
Most of the Iraqis didn't oppose the removal of Saddam though. Russian also sold them plenty of weapons pre-1991.

Taiwan is tricky because the US would need to sail ships to Taiwan to deliver the weapons during a war. That's obviously not as straight forward as supplying them to Ukraine, even if the ships are unopposed. However, the task of invading Taiwan is also more difficult because there's 100 miles of water between it and mainland China. Russia was able to use the early element of surprise to steal an advantage at the start of the war due to the many land borders, that is not as easy across 100 miles of water. Russia was not even nearly able to launch an amphibious assault on Odessa and Taiwan's anti-ship capabilities are an order of magnitude greater than Ukraine's. China's navy and adjacent ports would be hugely vulnerable.

And this assumes that South Korea and Japan don't become involved.
 
However, the task of invading Taiwan is also more difficult because there's 100 miles of water between it and mainland China.
They will use cruise missile from multiple directions to saturate the shore areas first and then go in when they have flattened every thing.
when? why?
Any Sources pls??

How do you interpret this?
 
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Liberating the Polohy/Chernihivka/Tokmak area would cripple Russian logistics between East and West.

Oh, those wacky Russians:

Of course, what safety measures do you expect from people who drink anything they find?
Yep, if they finish off the Kerch bridge and make a hole between the East and Crimea, that's logistics up shit creek.

Yes, no sane government would put any trains over that bridge until a full survey has been done, although I'm not even sure how you would survey re-bar buried inside the concrete. Looking at how the metal around the bridge is bent, assuming the re-bar inside is okay is a huge gamble. Is was heated internal steel that caused the WTC to collapse after all. The rails can't be in great shape either.

They're having to lift the carriages.

 
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They will use cruise missile from multiple directions to saturate the shore areas first and then go in when they have flattened every thing.
The missiles won't just come from the shore areas. As an island, Taiwan has comprehensive naval defences.


Russian has already tried the 'flatten everything with cruise missiles' approach too.

China also didn't fair very well in their last air-war.

 
Russian has already tried the 'flatten everything with cruise missiles' approach too.
And they succeed in flattening, you can't deny it. It's the continuous supply which Ukraine gets from NATO which is holding the Russians. In case of Taiwan it won't be the same case as you already mentioned.
 
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And they succeed in flattening, you can't deny it. It's the continuous supply which Ukraine gets from NATO which is holding the Russians. In case of Taiwan it won't be the same case as you already mentioned.
Their flattening has been somewhat inaccurate, they've never succeeded in putting missiles in the right places at the right time to any great extent. Chinese naval forces will also be sitting ducks, especially landing craft, which are easy prey for tanks, smaller portable missiles, and IFVs. Chinese losses would be immense. Imagine D-Day if the Nazis had guided weapons.
 
And they succeed in flattening, you can't deny it.
Yeah, they succeeded in flattening residential areas and hospitals, as those as always the priority targets of any Russian planner. "How can we kill as many civilians as possible?" is the alpha and the omega of Russian tactical thought.

But since the Ukrainians still have an air force and an air defense, I would not say that Russia succeeded in flattening anything that was militarily relevant.

And since they didn't succeed in knocking off Ukrainian air defenses, their air force has been mostly useless. Whenever they do send aircraft over the front line, they lose some of them. They don't have standoff precision weapons. All they can do is basically use them as flying artillery, sending volleys of unguided rockets in a parabolic arc and hope one of them will hit something tactically useful.
 
And since they didn't succeed in knocking off Ukrainian air defenses, their air force has been mostly useless.

You are not understanding the point. The question is here about if China uses the same tactic in Taiwan then Taiwan doesn't enjoy the luxury of continous weapons supply from NATO.
They don't have standoff precision weapons.

How's that possible?
 
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Their flattening has been somewhat inaccurate, they've never succeeded in putting missiles in the right places at the right time to any great extent. Chinese naval forces will also be sitting ducks, especially landing craft, which are easy prey for tanks, smaller portable missiles, and IFVs. Chinese losses would be immense. Imagine D-Day if the Nazis had guided weapons

The Normandy scene came to my mind but the question is how long (fits that music video by Iron Maiden)? How long can Taiwan hold without NATO supplies. They can't compete the Chinese in quantity.
 
Tomorrow there will be a crucial meeting of security council of Russia and in all likelyhood the SMO will be changed to war status. This will allow Russian forces to undertake much larger operations with the use of much better/devastating weapon systems. If I was Putin, I will drop a megaton nuke on Kiev and decimate it and also warn all other nations supporting Ukraine that allowing the use of their territory to ferry weapons to Ukraine or giving weapons to Ukraine will make them an ally of Ukraine and a direct participent in the war, with Russia reserving options to attack those countries with all the weapons at its disposal. In a war, you must not have any hesitation and fight it in its true glory with just one aim-VICTORY.

Some very bad news is headed the way of Europe and in particular USA. BRICS have decided to increase their gold holdings to over 7k tons. India has just yesterday cleared import of 200 tons of gold. This will ensure that within India+China+Russia we have more gold holdings than USA. The new BRICS currency will be supported by this gold holding and any currency not linked to gold will not be recognised. Only two such currencies exist in the world which are not linked to gold holdings, USD and EURO. The countries using these currencies will have to buy the BRICS currency to be able to have trade with any country which is part of BRICS currency. OR they will have to revert back to their own local currencies linked to their gold reserve to be able to trade with any nation using BRICS currency as currency for trade. The days of printing unlimited USD and Euro are going to be over by Mid next year. Even the OPEC will change over to this BRICKS currency for trading oil and gas. Already OPEC has shown two finger flag to USA and Europe by reducing oil output by 2m brls per day. More cuts are in the offing. Just wait and watch. The day Russia nukes Ukraine, there will be further cuts in production by OPEC. Germany has run dry and now even France is running dry of oil and gas. Welcome to the middle ages when Europe used to use fire wood to keep themselves alive to cook food and keep themselves warm.
 
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They will use cruise missile from multiple directions to saturate the shore areas first and then go in when they have flattened every thing.
Yup ! I think so too.
How do you interpret this?
LOL! I wouldn't read into this too much. You are being paranoid by stating that pakistan have given free hand in kashmir.
 
Yeah, they succeeded in flattening residential areas and hospitals, as those as always the priority targets of any Russian planner. "How can we kill as many civilians as possible?" is the alpha and the omega of Russian tactical thought.
Common ukrainian were stocking/hiding/ manuevering through Civilian residential area. You Know that . You are being disingenuous.
But since the Ukrainians still have an air force and an air defense, I would not say that Russia succeeded in flattening anything that was militarily relevant.
Old-soviet era countries have provided jet fighters.
 
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You are not understanding the point. The question is here about if China uses the same tactic in Taiwan then Taiwan doesn't enjoy the luxury of continous weapons supply from NATO.
China cannot use the same tactics because there are too many differences to list here.
How's that possible?
They don't have enough of those to make them significant on the battlefield. While NATO armies have moved to a paradigm of using only guided munitions whenever possible (including on howitzer shells like Excalibur or Bonus), the Russians mostly rely on their Soviet-era stock. Attempts at modernizing their army, their arsenal, or even just their doctrine have always failed due to a combination of inertia, corruption, and incompetence.

So, they launch projects aimed at making modern weapons, and there's a lot of hype, but they don't have much functional results at the end. On paper they have modern stuff, in practice they don't, or in too little quantities to make a difference.