Ukraine - Russia Conflict

Update on operations in Ukraine 5 March D+9 12:45

1- General situation: general stalemate of Russian forces with the exception of the Eastern zone where the 20th A is advancing towards Kiev and the 1st ABG is suspending the investment of Kharkiv in favour of reconnaissance operations in force towards the centre (Poltava) and the South-East.

2- Air and sea: little change. Persistent fear of anti-aircraft defences (S300, MANPADS) which hindered air manoeuvres. Flying at very low altitude and/or at night with less efficiency.

3- New area, West: the western Ukrainian area (large marshes at the Belarusian border, few important axes during the Rasputa period) is not very favourable for a ground manoeuvre, but possibility of penetrating Jitomyr, west of Kiev.

4- It is possible that the large column on standby is in fact the 35th A (and not the 36th) until then in reserve in Belarus and that it is intended to manoeuvre, either towards Kiev, or towards the South in the direction of Vinnitsya, in order to cut the Ukraine in two.

5- Kiev: the 41st A still stopped at Chernihiv and the 36th A west of Kiev, but rapid advance of the 20th A to the east. The 20th A may reach the east of the capital in the coming days.

6- East: limited Russian advance into Kharkiv but peripheral operations of the 1st ABG towards Sloviansk in the south-east and Poltava in the south-west of Kharkiv. Poltava, a high point in Russian military history, victory of Peter the Great against the Swedish army of Charles XII, 1709
7- Southeast: major Russian effort and separatist militias against Mariupol. Violent fighting. The siege of Mariupol absorbs the forces of the 58th A and part of the 49th A from Donetsk.

8- Few forces available to advance north, but presence with limited forces near Zaporozhjia, with seizure of the nuclear power plant and thus control over 15% of Ukrainian electricity production.

9- South-West: new attack on Mykolayev (Ukr. naval forces HQ) from Kherson. The fight in the sector seems to be taken over by the 22nd Corps (CA) + naval brigade and 7th AAD and no longer the 58th A. The capture of Mykolayev essential for the attack on Odessa.

10- Notes Return to the phase of suppression of air defences in the early days of the war. Its incompleteness had serious consequences on the failure of the high-speed offensive of the ground forces.

11- The air raid on the airport of Gostomel (North Kiev), suffered heavy losses (two attack helicopters destroyed and especially one or two IL76 transport planes destroyed with undoubtedly heavy human losses).

12- Back to the problems of Russian organisation. Their origin may be the anarchic accumulation of different command structures after the succession of reforms: army and corps, autonomous brigades and divisions with regiments.

13- Often too many units to be commanded (far beyond the norm of 5) simultaneously by the army staffs, especially with reinforcements + liaison problems.

14- Death of several Russian generals reported, sign of the need (by order?) for commanders of large units to go directly to the closest unit to bypass a saturated chain of command and compensate for the lack of initiative of the units.

Point 11 seems fake, the IL-76 debris would have been on the internet by now.

Point 14 is surprising. Several?
 
This is worth a watch @WHOHE ; @BMD & other Brit , Canadian , Aussie & US members especially when you suffer those bouts of self righteous fury of biblical proportions on how Putin's Russia is prosecuting this war .

Do remember that many of your allies like the French & the Schroeder Fischer led SDP Green government in Germany warned how the US was setting a dangerous precedent by bypassing the UN & prosecuting a totally unjust & unsanctioned war .

Well 19 yrs later , here we are & unfortunately this is only the beginning ...


 
Well randomradio he's got you there. ja?
So let's get this right. Ukraine claims shooting down 2 transporters of the RuAF loaded with troops which crashes into its own territory which it controls & doesn't provide any photograph or video evidence for it = India shooting a Pak F-16 which crashes into the latter's territory which it denied. Hence no question of offering proof.

Whereas every minor skirmish is duly recorded by Ukrainian troops & posted on the net where it goes viral courtesy useful idiots like you.

Allow me to recommend a Traditional remedy to increase brain power from India - eat 2 almonds soaked overnight on an empty stomach every morning. Don't do it for yourself . Do it for us so that we don't have to suffer such brain damaging posts in the future.
 
Point 11 seems fake, the IL-76 debris would have been on the internet by now.

Point 14 is surprising. Several?
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On day 3 of the conflict was happening and a major was captured I said no brigadier general would step onto the field.
 
We didn't see the so called f16 debris either, from feb 27.

When stuff gets lost in the Himalayas, they are gone, hidden below the fog or fallen into ravines. The F-16 likely burnt up to the point where it split up and fell across a very large area. The IL-76 can't get that lucky. It's like comparing a moped with a bus.
 
When stuff gets lost in the Himalayas, they are gone, hidden below the fog or fallen into ravines. The F-16 likely burnt up to the point where it split up and fell across a very large area. The IL-76 can't get that lucky. It's like comparing a moped with a bus.
How easily your shot down mig-21 was found and supposedly the F-16 that was shot down was by that same mig-21. :unsure:
 
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How easily your shot down mig-21 was found and supposedly the F-16 that was shot down was by that same mig-21. :unsure:

Sure. The distances involved were pretty high. Plus both were moving in the opposite directions. Even if it was found, you can bet the PA did a good job of hiding it. The aircraft's too small to survive intact against 7.5Kg of explosives so it's unlikely for it to have been recognisable on the ground.

Anyway:

The mountains are the size of countries out there, it's twice the size of Texas.
 
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Update on operations in Ukraine 5 March D+9 12:45

1- General situation: general stalemate of Russian forces with the exception of the Eastern zone where the 20th A is advancing towards Kiev and the 1st ABG is suspending the investment of Kharkiv in favour of reconnaissance operations in force towards the centre (Poltava) and the South-East.

2- Air and sea: little change. Persistent fear of anti-aircraft defences (S300, MANPADS) which hindered air manoeuvres. Flying at very low altitude and/or at night with less efficiency.

3- New area, West: the western Ukrainian area (large marshes at the Belarusian border, few important axes during the Rasputa period) is not very favourable for a ground manoeuvre, but possibility of penetrating Jitomyr, west of Kiev.

4- It is possible that the large column on standby is in fact the 35th A (and not the 36th) until then in reserve in Belarus and that it is intended to manoeuvre, either towards Kiev, or towards the South in the direction of Vinnitsya, in order to cut the Ukraine in two.

5- Kiev: the 41st A still stopped at Chernihiv and the 36th A west of Kiev, but rapid advance of the 20th A to the east. The 20th A may reach the east of the capital in the coming days.

6- East: limited Russian advance into Kharkiv but peripheral operations of the 1st ABG towards Sloviansk in the south-east and Poltava in the south-west of Kharkiv. Poltava, a high point in Russian military history, victory of Peter the Great against the Swedish army of Charles XII, 1709
7- Southeast: major Russian effort and separatist militias against Mariupol. Violent fighting. The siege of Mariupol absorbs the forces of the 58th A and part of the 49th A from Donetsk.

8- Few forces available to advance north, but presence with limited forces near Zaporozhjia, with seizure of the nuclear power plant and thus control over 15% of Ukrainian electricity production.

9- South-West: new attack on Mykolayev (Ukr. naval forces HQ) from Kherson. The fight in the sector seems to be taken over by the 22nd Corps (CA) + naval brigade and 7th AAD and no longer the 58th A. The capture of Mykolayev essential for the attack on Odessa.

10- Notes Return to the phase of suppression of air defences in the early days of the war. Its incompleteness had serious consequences on the failure of the high-speed offensive of the ground forces.

11- The air raid on the airport of Gostomel (North Kiev), suffered heavy losses (two attack helicopters destroyed and especially one or two IL76 transport planes destroyed with undoubtedly heavy human losses).

12- Back to the problems of Russian organisation. Their origin may be the anarchic accumulation of different command structures after the succession of reforms: army and corps, autonomous brigades and divisions with regiments.

13- Often too many units to be commanded (far beyond the norm of 5) simultaneously by the army staffs, especially with reinforcements + liaison problems.

14- Death of several Russian generals reported, sign of the need (by order?) for commanders of large units to go directly to the closest unit to bypass a saturated chain of command and compensate for the lack of initiative of the units.
You know, I think if NATO intervened in Ukraine we'd actually be doing Russia a favour by end their suffering and humiliation quickly.