Ukraine - Russia Conflict

War in Ukraine and the LPM-Top 4 lessons from the current war
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The war in Ukraine is not over, far from it, but as we reflect again in France on our model of armies and on the future military programming law, it is not useless to come back on what seems already obvious in view of the eight months of conflict. This is obviously a personal assessment and therefore just as obviously open to criticism with arguments.
1-20% of resources for those who do 80% of the work is not much

Russia's difficulties in militarily defeating Ukraine, a country with a defence budget officially 13 times smaller (and unofficially much more, despite American aid before 2022) is explained first of all by an army model that is unsuited to the context.

Russia wanted a "United States" class army with a GDP barely higher than that of Italy and it was necessary to make trade-offs. Each of its components argued that its absolute priority was to ensure nuclear deterrence, the presence and prestige of the red-white flag in the world, support for industry and sometimes to win the wars to be fought.

In the end, Russia opted for the maintenance of a plethoric nuclear arsenal, massive modernisation of its air force and navy, a powerful air defence, the creation and development of special forces and an independent air assault force. Only 20 per cent of the resources were left for the army. Confrontation and eventual war with Western countries attracted attention, minds and budgets (always use the greatest threat to attract finances) while the probability of such a war was and still is very low, due to nuclear deterrence. In the name of "more allowing less", it was believed that this model could cope with everything and this proved to be a delusion when it was necessary to wage a real war and without the excuse of surprise, since it was Russia itself that triggered this war.

From fighting armed organisations to invading a country, wars are not won by killing all enemy combatants from a distance - a rich Sisyphean strategy that does not want to take risks - but by occupying the terrain. The Russian army in charge of planting the flags was far inferior to what it could have been given the country's potential.

On the other hand, due to a lack of means and an ambition limited to territorial defence, the Ukrainian army devoted 90% of its resources to its ground forces and anti-access means. While a large part of the Russian army model could not be engaged against Ukraine, the actual balance of power on the ground was therefore much less unbalanced than it could have been. It is not important to be able to win hypothetical wars, and all the more hypothetical as they would oppose nuclear powers, if one is not able to win the major wars of the moment, especially those that one has decided.

To go further into the details of the model, it should be added that not only has the Russian army been neglected, but that the very model of this army, based on the firepower of the artillery and the shock power of the battle tanks, has been found wanting. There is no way to win a major war without a large, quality infantry force, either your own or that of the allies you support, especially in a complex, urbanised environment like Ukraine. The Russian Army had even less of this necessary infantry as the best elements were taken by the airborne forces and the naval infantry brigades, good units, but poorly equipped and organised to fight other than in airmobile/airborne/amphibious operations, which proved to be rare.

2. Stock is survival

The balance of power was all the more unfavourable to the Russians because the Ukrainians had real human reserves at their disposal. To be able to cope with a radical change of context, you have to be able to build up power very quickly or at least to be able to sustain power over time. The Russians and Ukrainians had the intelligence to rely on their stocks of old major equipment inherited from the Soviet army. Retrofitted, they made it possible to have the material mass. The difference is that the Ukrainians have better organised the human resource to use this material mass.

You can't get back up to speed quickly without drawing on the resources of the rest of the nation. Ukraine organised this appeal, not Russia. The Ukrainians had real reserves of experienced men to supplement the active brigades, train new ones for mobilisation and form the framework of the territorial brigades. With the influx of volunteers and then mobilised men, the Ukrainians had a mass of men who became soldiers after several months of training and experience. It can be added that this contribution of the nation was also a contribution of particular skills and even of civilian equipment of military use. Thanks to this mobilisation effort and with Western material assistance, the Ukrainian army became the most powerful in Europe in the summer of 2022.

On the other side, nothing of the sort was planned. Rather like France in the war against Iraq in 1990, Russia committed an expeditionary force of only professional soldiers, but without a professional operational reserve of the same magnitude to complement or support it. Since the beginning of the war, Russia has been improvising in this area, from a mop-up of volunteers to a chaotic partial mobilisation, and this has obviously not been successful. High-intensity warfare, to use the term, cannot be seriously conducted without first simplifying administrative procedures, organising stocks of equipment and logistical resources, complete reserve units, a census of all individuals with military experience, the possibility of requisitioning civilian equipment and planning the transformation of production lines.

Let us add that even if, like the Western countries at present, we remain within the framework of a confrontation and not of a war, having at least stocks of equipment and training structures makes it much easier to help materially the allied country which is engaged in war.

3. Has the sky become too dangerous for humans?

One of the characteristics of the war in Ukraine is that there are few aircraft, the (70% American) stars of the coalition wars fought during the "New World Order". This is not completely new. The 2014-2015 war in the Donbass was fought almost without manned aircraft, as was the war between Azerbaijan and Armenia in 2020. The main reason for this is the difficulty of engaging tens of millions of euros worth of manned aircraft in a dense, multi-layered air defence environment. Despite the caution in their use, the Russian Air Force has lost 63 aircraft and 53 helicopters to date, losses that are documented and therefore less than the reality. There are also alternative means of carrying out the missions of these aircraft: drones of all kinds, long-range artillery and missiles. The Russian campaign of strikes in the depths of Ukrainian territory is the first to be carried out almost entirely with missiles or near-missiles since the German V-1 and V-2 campaign in 1944-45. It has more or less the same ineffectiveness.

It should be noted that after having placed all its confidence in the certainty of having air superiority (with American help as soon as something important and/or long-lasting had to be done) and in its concern to save money at all costs, France sacrificed both its anti-aircraft artillery and its ground-to-ground artillery, as well as the drones, which seemed to have no use in such a context, even though it was well known that there would be an end. If the American air force is still capable of operating in such a hostile environment at great expense, what is the real situation with the French forces?

The problem also arises for amphibious operations or simply near the coast, within missile range or even for air assault operations. Should they be abandoned in favour of other modes of action? Should the means be adapted to make them capable of penetrating powerful anti-access defences? Is it worth it?

4. The atom is peace or almost

There has never been so much talk about nuclear weapons since the 1980s. This is at least an opportunity to recall how useful it is for preventing wars between the powers that possess it. If nuclear weapons had not existed, we would not be on the threshold of a third world war, but of a fourth, since the third would certainly have already taken place between NATO, the Warsaw Pact and China between 1950 and 1990.

France must therefore continue to improve this tool and retain this second-strike capability (being able to respond to a massive nuclear attack) which is the only way to be a real deterrent against another nuclear power. The major problem is that this has a cost, and even an increasing cost. The additional cost of renewing the means of our nuclear strike force is devouring the increase in the budget of the armed forces and therefore, unless this budget is further increased, will produce crowding out effects.

This is an opportunity to remind ourselves of the need to have the means to match our ambitions - if we made the same defence effort as in 1989, the army budget would be 70 billion euros - or if it is not possible to do the opposite, otherwise France will find itself in the current position of Russia when it comes to waging war.
 
last time US played the same trick against chinese Huawei founder's daughter dint work out and now with russians.
 
Looks like Poland has plans for Belarus if they attack Ukraine, or Russia launches an attack from there again.
This will begin the world war and all the three times Europe will be responsible so let's not wish for such a scenario and hope both sides come to talking terms and end this menace.
 
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There's Cornish, Welsh, Scots, and Scottish Gaelic as minority languages in the UK.

And the official languages are Welsh, and English, which is spoken by 98% of the population. There goes his logic down the drain.

I hate this non-logic. Russia is engaged in a war of genocide. We find new mass graves in liberated territories every week. And people are talking as if you could negotiate peace. You don't negotiate peace with a totalitarian regime that has embarked on a genocidal project. The only way to obtain a ceasefire and peace is to kick Russia out of Ukraine. There is no other way. You can't let Russia keep Ukrainian territories because then they'll just use it to launch another attack.

What will bring greater misery to Ukraine is letting Russia keep parts of it.


For the 114518754846456454545456312154511111999477th time, NATO WAS NOT EXPANDING INTO UKRAINE. So that's a false pretext.

Oh yeah, Russia is so eager to protect these people that they press-gang them into charging Ukrainian positions, with Wagner mercs in their back to shoot them if they try to retreat, desert, or surrender.

The aim of demilitarization is to make further conquest easier. As for denazification, as they have explained, their definition of a Nazi is an Ukrainian who identifies as Ukrainian instead of identifying as Russian. They have redefined nazi to mean "non-Russian". So their "denazification" is a genocide.

And once again I will remind everyone here that the actual neo-Nazi scene in Russia is much larger than in Ukraine. Even had an openly nazi party with the third reich flag as its emblem at the Parliament of Russia. Now it has merged into a party calling itself the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia, which is neither liberal nor democratic...

I should hope everyone would see how laughable that claim is by now. So any source that parrots it and pretend the Russians are sincere is, at best, a very deluded source; at worst just a Russian shill shamelessly lying.

I should hope everyone would see how laughable that claim is by now. So any source that parrots it and pretend the Russians are sincere is, at best, a very deluded source; at worst just a Russian shill shamelessly lying. (bis)

I should hope everyone would see how laughable that claim is by now. So any source that parrots it and pretend the Russians are sincere is, at best, a very deluded source; at worst just a Russian shill shamelessly lying. (ter)

Obviously, then, the Russians must be stopped at all cost and prevented from achieving these goals that are threatening regional security.

Let's continue onward.

Once again we see empty-brained regurgitation of Russian talking point. If the Kremlin said it, then it is accepted as Gospel. Despite all the contrary evidence. Here we see the usual suspects: the revolution was "engineered", and Zelensky was "installed", with scare quotes. Always trying to sell the Russian narrative as fact, and always refusing to face reality.

The real unconscionable tragedy is the "installation" of Vladimir Putin as President of Russia. See, I can do scare quotes too. And if you are honest, you will see a lot more reasons to seriously doubt the validity of Putin's last election results than those of Zelensky. But it's critically important for the Russian narrative to de-legitimize Zelensky, so that's what the mindless Russian shills do.

A lie so massive that it's a wonder the rest of the article hasn't been swallowed into it. Perhaps if he were talking about Russian political and military leaderships it would have some kernel of truth? If the military didn't want to fight, then Putin's attempted coup on the 24th of February would have worked. Putin's gamble failed because, surprise surprise, the military fought tooth and nail to repeal the invaders.

More of the Russian narrative pushing, more of the Ukrainian de-legitimation, more of the pretending Ukraine is just a puppet and similar bullshit conspiracy theories that are there just to make Russia look less bad. Anyone with critical thinking skills should see right through it.

See, if he were talking about Russia here, it would be right.

I'll stop there. This is just a heap of disinformation and regurgitated Russian propaganda. There isn't one ounce of truth in the whole text.

A lot of the rules have changed since the war began. Like occupying territory, which wouldn't have happened had Zelensky not come to power, because a wiser govt would have avoided war. The war should have been quick right from the start, would have avoided building up hatred, like the case between India and Pakistan, also the reason why the Russians started so slow.

And no, they are not considering any Ukrainian as Nazi, they have identified specific militia groups for that, the ones fighting, like the Azov and Kraken and the people backing them.

They are saying Zelensky is the puppet, not Ukraine. For the Russians, it's more about 'liberating' Ukraine, a very loose word for the situation, from Zelensky and the West.

The problem is you are seeing this situation as good guys vs bad guys, it's anything but. It's just bad guys vs bad guys with good guys stuck in the middle.
 
Footage of the offensive of the Ukrainian army units in the Berislav direction on October 19 has been published. After Russian artillery strikes, the armored group of the Ukrainian army dispersed and retreated, having lost, according to preliminary data, a tank and abandoned the MT-LB transporter.


The Russian army captured an American M113 armored personnel carrier of the Ukrainian army. Why the armored personnel carrier was abandoned is unknown, it is reported that the armored vehicle is on the move and requires only light repairs.


With the help of the UR-77 installation, the Ukrainian army clears the road from mines.


An episode of the battle of Russian units in the Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog direction in Ukraine. Despite the wound, the Russian soldier with a machine gun is moving quite actively. The video has been shortened.

 
Has Turkey nerve gassed 200,000 of them? If not we're dealing with false equivalents again. Saddam also annexed Kuwait, took hostages, tortured PoWs and used chemical weapons against Iran and a bunch of other crimes. I'm not condoning all Turkey's actions by saying that, but lets not compare apples an oranges.

We all know dictators are bad. That doesn't mean you blow up their country without a proper plan in place for the aftermath. But the West leaves these countries for the dead after they are done.

Turkey is no different from any of the kangaroos you personally have a dislike for.
 
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War in Ukraine and the LPM-Top 4 lessons from the current war
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

The war in Ukraine is not over, far from it, but as we reflect again in France on our model of armies and on the future military programming law, it is not useless to come back on what seems already obvious in view of the eight months of conflict. This is obviously a personal assessment and therefore just as obviously open to criticism with arguments.
1-20% of resources for those who do 80% of the work is not much

Russia's difficulties in militarily defeating Ukraine, a country with a defence budget officially 13 times smaller (and unofficially much more, despite American aid before 2022) is explained first of all by an army model that is unsuited to the context.

Russia wanted a "United States" class army with a GDP barely higher than that of Italy and it was necessary to make trade-offs. Each of its components argued that its absolute priority was to ensure nuclear deterrence, the presence and prestige of the red-white flag in the world, support for industry and sometimes to win the wars to be fought.

In the end, Russia opted for the maintenance of a plethoric nuclear arsenal, massive modernisation of its air force and navy, a powerful air defence, the creation and development of special forces and an independent air assault force. Only 20 per cent of the resources were left for the army. Confrontation and eventual war with Western countries attracted attention, minds and budgets (always use the greatest threat to attract finances) while the probability of such a war was and still is very low, due to nuclear deterrence. In the name of "more allowing less", it was believed that this model could cope with everything and this proved to be a delusion when it was necessary to wage a real war and without the excuse of surprise, since it was Russia itself that triggered this war.

From fighting armed organisations to invading a country, wars are not won by killing all enemy combatants from a distance - a rich Sisyphean strategy that does not want to take risks - but by occupying the terrain. The Russian army in charge of planting the flags was far inferior to what it could have been given the country's potential.

On the other hand, due to a lack of means and an ambition limited to territorial defence, the Ukrainian army devoted 90% of its resources to its ground forces and anti-access means. While a large part of the Russian army model could not be engaged against Ukraine, the actual balance of power on the ground was therefore much less unbalanced than it could have been. It is not important to be able to win hypothetical wars, and all the more hypothetical as they would oppose nuclear powers, if one is not able to win the major wars of the moment, especially those that one has decided.

To go further into the details of the model, it should be added that not only has the Russian army been neglected, but that the very model of this army, based on the firepower of the artillery and the shock power of the battle tanks, has been found wanting. There is no way to win a major war without a large, quality infantry force, either your own or that of the allies you support, especially in a complex, urbanised environment like Ukraine. The Russian Army had even less of this necessary infantry as the best elements were taken by the airborne forces and the naval infantry brigades, good units, but poorly equipped and organised to fight other than in airmobile/airborne/amphibious operations, which proved to be rare.

2. Stock is survival

The balance of power was all the more unfavourable to the Russians because the Ukrainians had real human reserves at their disposal. To be able to cope with a radical change of context, you have to be able to build up power very quickly or at least to be able to sustain power over time. The Russians and Ukrainians had the intelligence to rely on their stocks of old major equipment inherited from the Soviet army. Retrofitted, they made it possible to have the material mass. The difference is that the Ukrainians have better organised the human resource to use this material mass.

You can't get back up to speed quickly without drawing on the resources of the rest of the nation. Ukraine organised this appeal, not Russia. The Ukrainians had real reserves of experienced men to supplement the active brigades, train new ones for mobilisation and form the framework of the territorial brigades. With the influx of volunteers and then mobilised men, the Ukrainians had a mass of men who became soldiers after several months of training and experience. It can be added that this contribution of the nation was also a contribution of particular skills and even of civilian equipment of military use. Thanks to this mobilisation effort and with Western material assistance, the Ukrainian army became the most powerful in Europe in the summer of 2022.

On the other side, nothing of the sort was planned. Rather like France in the war against Iraq in 1990, Russia committed an expeditionary force of only professional soldiers, but without a professional operational reserve of the same magnitude to complement or support it. Since the beginning of the war, Russia has been improvising in this area, from a mop-up of volunteers to a chaotic partial mobilisation, and this has obviously not been successful. High-intensity warfare, to use the term, cannot be seriously conducted without first simplifying administrative procedures, organising stocks of equipment and logistical resources, complete reserve units, a census of all individuals with military experience, the possibility of requisitioning civilian equipment and planning the transformation of production lines.

Let us add that even if, like the Western countries at present, we remain within the framework of a confrontation and not of a war, having at least stocks of equipment and training structures makes it much easier to help materially the allied country which is engaged in war.

3. Has the sky become too dangerous for humans?

One of the characteristics of the war in Ukraine is that there are few aircraft, the (70% American) stars of the coalition wars fought during the "New World Order". This is not completely new. The 2014-2015 war in the Donbass was fought almost without manned aircraft, as was the war between Azerbaijan and Armenia in 2020. The main reason for this is the difficulty of engaging tens of millions of euros worth of manned aircraft in a dense, multi-layered air defence environment. Despite the caution in their use, the Russian Air Force has lost 63 aircraft and 53 helicopters to date, losses that are documented and therefore less than the reality. There are also alternative means of carrying out the missions of these aircraft: drones of all kinds, long-range artillery and missiles. The Russian campaign of strikes in the depths of Ukrainian territory is the first to be carried out almost entirely with missiles or near-missiles since the German V-1 and V-2 campaign in 1944-45. It has more or less the same ineffectiveness.

It should be noted that after having placed all its confidence in the certainty of having air superiority (with American help as soon as something important and/or long-lasting had to be done) and in its concern to save money at all costs, France sacrificed both its anti-aircraft artillery and its ground-to-ground artillery, as well as the drones, which seemed to have no use in such a context, even though it was well known that there would be an end. If the American air force is still capable of operating in such a hostile environment at great expense, what is the real situation with the French forces?

The problem also arises for amphibious operations or simply near the coast, within missile range or even for air assault operations. Should they be abandoned in favour of other modes of action? Should the means be adapted to make them capable of penetrating powerful anti-access defences? Is it worth it?

4. The atom is peace or almost

There has never been so much talk about nuclear weapons since the 1980s. This is at least an opportunity to recall how useful it is for preventing wars between the powers that possess it. If nuclear weapons had not existed, we would not be on the threshold of a third world war, but of a fourth, since the third would certainly have already taken place between NATO, the Warsaw Pact and China between 1950 and 1990.

France must therefore continue to improve this tool and retain this second-strike capability (being able to respond to a massive nuclear attack) which is the only way to be a real deterrent against another nuclear power. The major problem is that this has a cost, and even an increasing cost. The additional cost of renewing the means of our nuclear strike force is devouring the increase in the budget of the armed forces and therefore, unless this budget is further increased, will produce crowding out effects.

This is an opportunity to remind ourselves of the need to have the means to match our ambitions - if we made the same defence effort as in 1989, the army budget would be 70 billion euros - or if it is not possible to do the opposite, otherwise France will find itself in the current position of Russia when it comes to waging war.

What's interesting to note about the Russian army's lack of modernisation is the fact that it was on the cusp of beginning its modernisation. Something I had pointed out years ago, that the RA will be a completely different beast in 5-10 years. India is in the same boat when it comes to the army and air force.

Had pointed out earlier too, that the weaker P5 members should get their act together or get caught with their pants down when sh!t hits the fan. Start with expanding the navy first. Let Poland and Germany deal with the expansion of the ground forces and Germany and Italy with the air forces.

PS: Build everything you need in India. Save 20-30% off the final bill that way. ;)
In a Russia vs NATO fight, we would want NATO to win after all.
 
Looks like Poland has plans for Belarus if they attack Ukraine, or Russia launches an attack from there again.


'Cause a massive mobilisation of Russian forces into Belarus has been happening since the end of Sept.

Belarus claims 9000 troops, but it could be 5-10 times that.

But the Russians may possibly be using Belarus and their facilities for training their own troops over the winter though.
 
But while the compulsive thieving is kind of funny in a *censored*ed up way, as the looting of washing machines has become a meme, let's never forget that the Russians are also compulsive sadists.

Kadyrov Surely loves limelight, Attention and always wants to project tough guy persona.....
Hey look at that, it's classical slavery...
Hey, @A Person How did you get behind paywall?
There was a paywall? If so, it's a very poor paywall to b defeated just by NoScript.

A lot of the rules have changed since the war began. Like occupying territory, which wouldn't have happened had Zelensky not come to power, because a wiser govt would have avoided war.
Obvious bullshit. They declared they had no intention to occupy territory three years after Zelensky's elections, so don't go claiming that it's Zelensky's election that changed the rule. The only rule is that Russia always lies, and that rule hasn't changed.
They wasted no time painting the Russian colors everywhere, as early as in February. So the intent always was to invade, occupy, and annex.
And there was no avoiding war. Putin wanted that war and would not be budged.
The war should have been quick right from the start, would have avoided building up hatred, like the case between India and Pakistan, also the reason why the Russians started so slow.
So slow? They started by going as fast as they could, which is why they had supply line issues.
And no, they are not considering any Ukrainian as Nazi, they have identified specific militia groups for that, the ones fighting, like the Azov and Kraken and the people backing them.
No, they absolutely are considering every Ukrainian as Nazi. Read this:
It's from RIA Novosti, so you know it's content that is officially endorsed by the Kremlin. A few translated excerpts:
Denazification is a set of measures in relation to the Nazified mass of the population, which technically cannot be directly punished as war criminals.
Nazis who have taken up arms must be destroyed on the battlefield to the maximum extent possible. No significant distinction should be made between the AFU and the so-called Natsbat, as well as the territorial defense that joined these two types of military formations.
However, in addition to the top brass, a significant portion of the mass of the people who are passive Nazis, Nazi collaborators, are also guilty. They supported and indulged the Nazi power. Just punishment for this part of the population is only possible as the bearing of the inevitable burdens of a just war against the Nazi system, waged as gently and discreetly as possible against civilians. The further denazification of this mass of the population consists in re-education, which is achieved by ideological repression (suppression) of Nazi attitudes and severe censorship: not only in the political sphere, but necessarily also in the sphere of culture and education. It was through culture and education that the deep mass Nazification of the population was prepared and carried out, consolidated by the promise of dividends from the Nazi regime's victory over Russia, Nazi propaganda, internal violence and terror, and the eight-year war with the rebellious Ukrainian Nazi people of Donbass.
Denazification can only be carried out by the victor, which presupposes (1) his unconditional control over the denazification process and (2) the power to ensure such control. In this respect, the denazified country cannot be sovereign. The denazifying state - Russia - cannot proceed from a liberal approach to denazification. The ideology of the denazifier cannot be challenged by the guilty party undergoing denazification. Russia's recognition of the need for denazification of Ukraine means the recognition of the impossibility of the Crimean scenario for Ukraine as a whole. However, this scenario was also impossible in 2014 in the rebellious Donbass. Only eight years of resistance to Nazi violence and terror led to internal cohesion and a conscious, unequivocal mass refusal to preserve any unity and connection with Ukraine, which defined itself as a Nazi society.
The time frame of denazification can in no way be less than one generation, which must be born, grow and mature under the conditions of denazification. The Nazification of Ukraine has been going on for over 30 years - starting at least in 1989, when Ukrainian nationalism received legal and legitimate forms of political expression and led the movement for "independence," heading towards Nazism.
The peculiarity of today's Nazified Ukraine is its amorphousness and ambivalence, which allow us to disguise Nazism as a desire for "independence" and a "European" (Western, pro-American) path of "development" (in reality - degradation), to claim that in Ukraine "there is no Nazism, only private, isolated excesses". There is no main Nazi party, no Führer, and no full-fledged racial laws (only a stripped-down version in the form of repression of the Russian language). As a consequence, there is no opposition and no resistance to the regime.
However, all of the above does not make Ukrainian Nazism a "light version" of the German Nazism of the first half of the twentieth century. On the contrary - since Ukrainian Nazism is free of such "genre" (political-technological in essence) frames and restrictions, it unfolds freely as the fundamental basis of all Nazism - as European and, in its most developed form, American racism. Therefore, denazification cannot be carried out in a compromise, based on a formula such as "NATO - no, EU - yes". The collective West itself is the designer, source and sponsor of Ukrainian Nazism, while the Western Bandera cadres and their "historical memory" are only one of the tools of the Nazification of Ukraine. Ukronazism is no less of a threat to peace and Russia than Hitler's version of German Nazism.
The name "Ukraine" obviously cannot be retained as the title of any fully denazified state entity in territory liberated from the Nazi regime. The People's Republics newly established in Nazi-liberated territory must and will grow out of the practice of economic self-government and social welfare, the restoration and modernization of the population's life-support systems.
Their political aspirations in fact cannot be neutral - redemption of guilt towards Russia for treating it as an enemy can only be realized in reliance on Russia in the processes of reconstruction, revival and development. No "Marshall Plan" for these territories should be allowed. There can be no "neutrality" in the ideological and practical sense, compatible with denazification. The cadres and organizations that are the instruments of denazification in the new denazified republics cannot help but rely on the direct power and organizational support of Russia.
Denazification will inevitably be de-Ukrainianization
- a rejection of the large-scale artificial inflation of the ethnic component of the self-identification of the population of the territories of historical Malorossia and Novorossia, started by the Soviet authorities. As a tool of communist superpower, after the fall of communist power, this artificial ethnocentrism did not remain orphaned. In this service capacity, it was taken over by another superpower (power over states) - the superpower of the West. It must be returned to its natural boundaries and stripped of its political functionality.
See? Their definition of "Nazi" is "Ukrainian". Every Ukrainian is a Nazi. And the only cure is complete destruction of Ukraine, massive brainwashing into being obedient little slaves, and complete dependence on Russia for every aspect of society with no space left for any sort of local autonomy. Independence, autonomy, and even neutrality are considered to be Nazism. The only way not to be a Nazi in Russia's eyes is to be a Russian.
They are saying Zelensky is the puppet, not Ukraine. For the Russians, it's more about 'liberating' Ukraine, a very loose word for the situation, from Zelensky and the West.
Zelensky is only a puppet of the Ukrainian people. He's not a puppet of the West, and anyone who claims so is full of shit.
The problem is you are seeing this situation as good guys vs bad guys, it's anything but. It's just bad guys vs bad guys with good guys stuck in the middle.
The problem is you are seeing this situation as if there's any merit at all in the Russian position. It's Russian imperialism vs. Ukrainian sovereignty. But I understand that India likes colonial imperialism, as long as it happens to other people.