Ukraine - Russia Conflict

More Ukrainian soldiers receive combat training from Norwegian instructors.

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So apparently UK's crown jewel, ie. 'Storm Shadow' was reportedly shot down by Russian air defence. Storm Shadow has a really low RCS. If it can be brought down then F-22s and F-35s are in for a rude awakening once they try to enter Russian air space.
Literally the dumbest comment ever made on this forum (excluding _Anonymous_). It has a low RCS, but it is not a stealth missile, and even if if were, stealth tends not to work very well at sea level against point defences only a few km away that can see you even without radar. JFC, an entire 18-strong barrage of Russia's best missiles get shot down in the space of a few minutes, but the story for you is that one Storm Shadow got shot down. :rolleyes:

 
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Literally the dumbest comment ever made on this forum (excluding _Anonymous_). It has a low RCS, but it is not a stealth missile, and even if if were, stealth tends not to work very well at sea level against point defences only a few km away that can see you even without radar. JFC, an entire 18-strong barrage of Russia's best missiles get shot down in the space of a few minutes, but the story for you is that one Storm Shadow got shot down. :rolleyes:

Storm Shadow has -20dBsm RCS value as per some sources. That makes it LO or Stealth. Your F-35s and F-22s are in serious trouble against Russia.
 
Literally the dumbest comment ever made on this forum (excluding _Anonymous_). It has a low RCS, but it is not a stealth missile, and even if if were, stealth tends not to work very well at sea level against point defences only a few km away that can see you even without radar. JFC, an entire 18-strong barrage of Russia's best missiles get shot down in the space of a few minutes, but the story for you is that one Storm Shadow got shot down. :rolleyes:

You can't be that surprised by his idiotic post can ya? I mean I can make a compilation of dumb moronic claims he has posted.

But it is funny the way he thinks. Duuuuuh... stormshadow shot down (maybe) stormshadow low rcs = F-35 and F-22 no stand no chance.... duuuuuh! :ROFLMAO:

We shouldn't be too hard on him unlike anonymous who is 45 years old Raj may be a young smooth kid.
 
What is the RCS of f22?
As per USAF frontal RCS of a metal marble or -40dBsm or 0.0001m^2. It's VLO.

But bear in mind that this is from the best angle. Russian air defence is by far the most dense and spread out. They have radars like Nebo-M which work on many frequencies to detect/track VLO fighters.

@Innominate and @BMD may think otherwise, but Russian air defence intercepting Storm Shadow(arguably the stealthiet cruise missile of NATO arsenal) is a huge worrisome sign for USAF. F-22 and F-35 will find it very difficult to penetrate Russia, IMO.
 
As per USAF frontal RCS of a metal marble or -40dBsm or 0.0001m^2. It's VLO.

But bear in mind that this is from the best angle. Russian air defence is by far the most dense and spread out. They have radars like Nebo-M which work on many frequencies to detect/track VLO fighters.

@Innominate and @BMD may think otherwise, but Russian air defence intercepting Storm Shadow(arguably the stealthiet cruise missile of NATO arsenal) is a huge worrisome sign for USAF. F-22 and F-35 will find it very difficult to penetrate Russia, IMO.
Yeah, this world full of honest people. US had released the crucial classified information about their top end air superiority fighter. In this case RCS.
Looks like falling debris damaged but not destroyed a piece of a Patriot system likely a launcher.
What matters is, is it neutralized or not. Even a partial neutralization gives breathing space for the enemy.
 
As per USAF frontal RCS of a metal marble or -40dBsm or 0.0001m^2. It's VLO.

But bear in mind that this is from the best angle. Russian air defence is by far the most dense and spread out. They have radars like Nebo-M which work on many frequencies to detect/track VLO fighters.

@Innominate and @BMD may think otherwise, but Russian air defence intercepting Storm Shadow(arguably the stealthiet cruise missile of NATO arsenal) is a huge worrisome sign for USAF. F-22 and F-35 will find it very difficult to penetrate Russia, IMO.
Even iv 40 db is true, its still 100 times more stealthier than that cruise missile. Imagine, the third most skilled pilots are flying these birds towards ill trained Russians with aid of superior tactics, superior deception pods, superior EW aircraft support? Just imagine what will be the outcome.
 
Kinzhals leave HUGE craters and that is not the case in this attack. Btw confirmation that Ukraine has PAC 3 missiles.
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Sixteen per launcher and 8 launchers per battery. I wonder how many pac 3 launchers this battery has.
That's likely a failed launch IMO.

It means Russia maybe hit a launcher(10mil)

Radar(500 mil) safe and sound.
Not sure they hit anything, I thing to long, slow flash was a failed launch. Didn't look like an explosion from a strike and the PAC-3 lying around seems to confirm that.
 
Storm Shadow has -20dBsm RCS value as per some sources. That makes it LO or Stealth. Your F-35s and F-22s are in serious trouble against Russia.

As per USAF frontal RCS of a metal marble or -40dBsm or 0.0001m^2. It's VLO.

But bear in mind that this is from the best angle. Russian air defence is by far the most dense and spread out. They have radars like Nebo-M which work on many frequencies to detect/track VLO fighters.

@Innominate and @BMD may think otherwise, but Russian air defence intercepting Storm Shadow(arguably the stealthiet cruise missile of NATO arsenal) is a huge worrisome sign for USAF. F-22 and F-35 will find it very difficult to penetrate Russia, IMO.
You can see an F-22 at air shows right? Due to the altitude a Storm Shadow flies at, that's the kind of range we're talking about for a shootdown. You seen videos of Kh-101/Kalibur shootdowns with an Iris-SLS right? Same thing.