Ukraine - Russia Conflict

We're discussing actions in Europe here. But you'll find that Russia/USSR was involved in some way or other in nearly every war fought by the West post-WWII, along with proxies like China and Iran. E.g. China supported the Taliban between 2001 and 2021, and it supported the Northern alliance against the Taliban before that. Now they're getting what they deserve. Russia and Iran supported mass-murdering militias in Iraq from 2003-2021, now they're getting what they deserve too.

Of course, everybody in the Global South are sub-humans. Thanks for clearing that up.

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: Most ridiculous comment ever posted on the internet.

There's a gap between what you think and reality.

Oh, really? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Of course, everybody in the Global South are sub-humans. Thanks for clearing that up.
Didn't say that at all, but Russia had plenty of involvement in Global South to if you read the link. They were supporting the insurgent groups killing civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan.


Why Is Russia Helping Anti-U.S. Insurgents In Afghanistan?​

Oh, really? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Yeah, really.
 
@BMD you should be happy about this......
Funds are not given to Russia to fund this war... You happy my dear....
Yeah, very happy, there's a lot you could spend it on. Like not being as reliant on them for defence products... buying randomradio an education...
 
Ivan's repair work was questionable:

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No. Just because of passing of that Idiot language law, You can't say that russian speaking people were opressed.
Sorry but no.

That's complete suppression of one's language. It's the beginning of the end right there.

You don't see the bad effects of that because the Kremlin pre-empted all the aftereffects of such laws. It came into force in Jan 2022.

Do you know most of the Ukrainians dying on the battlefield are Russian-speaking conscripts? They get training for a few days and are sent to the front as cannon-fodder.

There's basically a class hierarchy in place. The Nazis get first dibs, followed by Ukrainian-speaking UAF units, and then the predominantly Russian-speaking conscripts who get leftovers, which is to say, nothing. Most of the soldiers fighting on the Ukrainian side are from the regions the Russians want, ie, Odessa has the highest, followed by Kharkiv and then Mykolaivka and Poltava. There are little to no cannon-fodder conscripts from Western Ukraine. Don't you see what's happening?

Interesting fact, since Jan, the number of conscripts recruitment from Odessa and Mykolaivka was over 50000, the same numbers from Lyiv was less than 1000.

So don't go by words, both sides are lying, always go by actions.

The action taking place is the complete opposite of the West's narrative. This was proven when Russia entered Ukraine without expecting to fight. All 'cause they were led to believe the Ukrainians were not interested in fighting. Who do you think benefits from that?

Zelensky promising to end the war pre-election.

The war as well, most of the casualties are among Russian-speaking units on the Ukrainian side. So it's basically Russians killing Russians.
 
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Didn't say that at all, but Russia had plenty of involvement in Global South to if you read the link. They were supporting the insurgent groups killing civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Oh, you mean after the US attacked their neighbour? India supports the same insurgents and so does the US, allied to NATO as well. These insurgents were enemies with the Taiban. Great job brushing up on history. Can't even tell who your allies are.


As for Iraq, the insurgent group was called ISIS, and the Russians were killing them.
@BMD you should be happy about this......
Funds are not given to Russia to fund this war... You happy my dear....

True dat.

Granted there was violence & lawlessness for sometime but Yanukovych would have been ousted anyway( By MPs).

It was a coup. And no, if he was to be ousted, it would have to be via a coup only. The problem is Yanukovych's party was more likely to win again.

Once Crimea was taken and Donbas seceded, there was no point in elections anymore, the Russian speakers would lose by default due to lower numbers. Zelensky took advantage of that to come to power. He promised peace and stability under his reign.
 

Very questionable about NATO's ability to operate in the same environment, where the battlefield is transparent and there's limited air support, against an enemy that's supplied externally and is very well dug in, and the invasion force went in unprepared and had to work their way up while fighting.

Poor training and tactical debacles aside, there's a limit to what you can do if your starting army itself was multiple times smaller than the enemy's.

I recall NATO went in with nearly 600k fully-prepared and equipped troops with full air support and next generation weapons into Iraq against an army that had no will to fight, and NATO still took almost 6 weeks.
 
NATO wouldn't be operating with limited air support.
In order to school you here for free?
School me for what? A PhD in bullshit? Everyone has a PhD in that, they just don't choose to apply it all the time like you.
 
Oh, you mean after the US attacked their neighbour? India supports the same insurgents and so does the US, allied to NATO as well. These insurgents were enemies with the Taiban. Great job brushing up on history. Can't even tell who your allies are.

They supported the Northern Alliance against the Taliban but then supported the Taliban against the elected Afghan National Government.


Now they're reaping what they sowed.

As for Iraq, the insurgent group was called ISIS, and the Russians were killing them.
The insurgents were also Al-Quaeda in Iraq earlier than that and various militia organisations. Russia and Iran supported them just to make the West look bad, with no regard for the hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths they caused.

The Patriot in the picture is a PAC-3 CRI.
Yeah, so? It's not like any SAM randomly melts away after an intercept.
 
It was a coup. And no, if he was to be ousted, it would have to be via a coup only. The problem is Yanukovych's party was more likely to win again.
Negative, the protestors spent months asking him for an early election following his decision to join the EEU. He ignored them and then tried to crack down on them with inevitable consequences, then he ran off to Russia. He could have avoided the whole thing by calling an election or a referendum in the interceding months between the start of protests and the revolution.


Stop trying to make up your own facts.

Once Crimea was taken and Donbas seceded, there was no point in elections anymore, the Russian speakers would lose by default due to lower numbers. Zelensky took advantage of that to come to power. He promised peace and stability under his reign.
Russia only has themselves to blame for that.
 
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A car with four collaborators was blown up in the temporarily occupied Mykhailivka, Zaporizhzhia region.


The Kremlin takes note of Pashinyan's words that Armenia is not an ally of the Russian Federation in the conflict in Ukraine: this is an important statement - Peskov