Ukraine - Russia Conflict

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and his wife Olena forbade rent their villa in the Italian commune of Forte dei Marmi to the Russians. Claudio Salvini, real estate agent of Forte dei Marmi Villas, reported this to the Italian newspaper La Stampa.​

"We have a warrant from the owner that categorically prohibits us from doing so. We can rent it to anyone of a different nationality: Europeans, Americans and others," he commented.
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Somewhere there is a Russian hopping.

 
 
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Hard to verify all, but the large injured casualty is indeed true given the nature of the offensive. Now a lot of footages are claimed by both sides, specially the distant drone footages where you can not see russian id marks. Ukraine are also using more public transport vehicle like common car & vans than military armoured vehicle for ISIS like hit and run counters so that also make it hard to identify. Obviously that is not an issue in war for the western propaganda to keep repeating the "civilians are being hit by Russia" line.
 
Ukraine have not given any update on the offensive front for 3 days now, admittedly they did put a nationwide ban on reporting about ongoing offensive action (this was said/confirmed by Ukraine journalists) for fear of being exposed. This war is turning into a slow burning of precious human lives now. Russia also deliberately slowed down knowing well Nato will keep on sending military resources but will not be able to replace Ukr population. If actual nato forces join this battle the bodybags will start flowing back to the Nato countries and that is when the tension will start rising in each nato countries, just as it happened in Vietnam.
I personally think this offensive is a ruse & Ukraine planned something under the guise of it.
 
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Ukraine have not given any update on the offensive front for 3 days now, admittedly they did put a nationwide ban on reporting about ongoing offensive action (this was said/confirmed by Ukraine journalists) for fear of being exposed. This war is turning into a slow burning of precious human lives now. Russia also deliberately slowed down knowing well Nato will keep on sending military resources but will not be able to replace Ukr population. If actual nato forces join this battle the bodybags will start flowing back to the Nato countries and that is when the tension will start rising in each nato countries, just as it happened in Vietnam.
I personally think this offensive is a ruse & Ukraine planned something under the guise of it.
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Three very important take aways from this counteroffensive and SOF operation on the nuclear plant are,
  1. over 700 SOF trained by UK were killed in that failed attempt. the 60 who landed there were killed and another 640 of them on two different big barges were sunk. All dead.
  2. All hospitals and morgues in Nilokaev and beyond are full with dead and wounded soldiers of Ukraine. The counteroffensive was ill planned and completely failed.
  3. Its for the first time in these last 198 days that Ukraine has officially asked for moarning which hints at the cost paid by Ukraine in this failed counteroffensive. Russian arty has once again demonstrated that they remain the finest in the world since WW2.
 
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vstol Jockey said:
Three very important take aways from this counteroffensive and SOF operation on the nuclear plant are,
  1. over 700 SOF trained by UK were killed in that failed attempt. the 60 who landed there were killed and another 640 of them on two different big barges were sunk. All dead.
  2. All hospitals and morgues in Nilokaev and beyond are full with dead and wounded soldiers of Ukraine. The counteroffensive was ill planned and completely failed.
  3. Its for the first time in these last 198 days that Ukraine has officially asked for moarning which hints at the cost paid by Ukraine in this failed counteroffensive. Russian arty has once again demonstrated that they remain the finest in the world since WW2.
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Can I ask for Any Sources ??? Where are you getting this information?
If it's true then WOW!
Also 640 people on two large barges sound Bullshit.
 
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Gorbachev died shocked and bewildered by Ukraine conflict - interpreter

MOSCOW (Reuters) -Mikhail Gorbachev, the last Soviet leader, was shocked and bewildered by the Ukraine conflict in the months before he died and psychologically crushed in recent years by Moscow's worsening ties with Kyiv, his interpreter said on Thursday. Pavel Palazhchenko, who worked with...
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RASALGHUL said:
Can I ask for Any Sources ??? Where are you getting this information?
If it's true then WOW!
Also 640 people on two large barges sound Bullshit.
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Does it even seem tactically sound if it had succeeded? I.e. fighting to get yourself surrounded in a siege. Nope. There is literally no reason for it.

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vstol Jockey said:
Three very important take aways from this counteroffensive and SOF operation on the nuclear plant are,
  1. over 700 SOF trained by UK were killed in that failed attempt. the 60 who landed there were killed and another 640 of them on two different big barges were sunk. All dead.
  2. All hospitals and morgues in Nilokaev and beyond are full with dead and wounded soldiers of Ukraine. The counteroffensive was ill planned and completely failed.
  3. Its for the first time in these last 198 days that Ukraine has officially asked for moarning which hints at the cost paid by Ukraine in this failed counteroffensive. Russian arty has once again demonstrated that they remain the finest in the world since WW2.
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The mourning is because yesterday was the 83rd anniversary of the outbreak of WWII, which Russia started in alliance with the Nazis following the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.

700 dead, let's see the bodies then, or did Russia experience the same problem that David Vincent had on The Invaders?
 
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The Armed Forces of Ukraine destroyed the BC of the occupiers' mortar system






 
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RASALGHUL said:
Most probably or else counter offensive has failed spectacularly.
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What I will point out is that I check the daily stats and videos and Russian losses have doubled recently. So it could be a draw and kill approach.
 
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This is like the Donbass War and Minsk Agreement all over:

1. There are no Russian troops in Donbass - OCSE observers see them, Russian court says they were there.

2. Russia says Ukraine fired on DPR/LPR first, they didn't.
 
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BMD said:
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I just can't understand Why Europe is hellbent on destroying their economy and themselves for this hypocrite. And why Europe is destroying itself and its economy for American rivalry with Russia when it's clear that it's only US which gains with stronger dollar pushing Euro below 1 dollar. Winter is around the corner and Europe will suffer the most due to non availability of gas forget availability even at high prices as Russians start closing gas taps. Europe won't be able to produce anything at economical prices to compete with any other countries across the world and will be import dependant for everything pushing Euro further into toilet hole. Welcome to poor Europe, people aren't even able to afford electricity bills..... 😐
 
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