US - Iran Flare Up
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sushant sareen (@sushantsareen) Tweeted:
The Soleimani assassination is an epochal event but unlikely to be the precursor of an apocalypse. Whatever else Soleimani was, he isn’t the 21st Century Archduke Franz Ferdinand...my take in @orfonline ORF on Twitter ( )
The Soleimani assassination is an epochal event but unlikely to be the precursor of an apocalypse. Whatever else Soleimani was, he isn’t the 21st Century Archduke Franz Ferdinand...my take in @orfonline ORF on Twitter ( )
Aviator Anil Chopra (@Chopsyturvey) Tweeted:
Reportedly the video of Sulaimani’s end. No one from the cavalcade escaped. Received as forward. Someone may confirm Aviator Anil Chopra on Twitter ( )
Reportedly the video of Sulaimani’s end. No one from the cavalcade escaped. Received as forward. Someone may confirm Aviator Anil Chopra on Twitter ( )
US committed a war crime. This is similar to Iran killing visiting US JCOS or vice president to a 3rd country.
India asks airlines to exercise caution
India has asked its airlines to exercise caution while flying over the Iranian air space.
ET Bureau | Updated: Jan 05, 2020, 10.33 AM IST
Reuters
New Delhi: Amid escalating tensions between the US and Iran, India has asked its airlines to exercise caution while flying over the Iranian air space and avoid it to the extent possible.
Indian airlines, however, have not yet decided to stop flying over the Indian airspace. “We have been asked to exercise caution and we have noted that. But flying over the Iranian airspace will continue and no route change is being planned for now,” said an Air India executive, who did not want to be identified.
Almost all flights flying to west of India to destinations in Europe and the US use the Iranian airspace and national carrier Air India is the largest number of flights to the west among Indian carriers.
The US government announced that Iranian general Qassem Suleimani was killed in an airstrike in Baghdad in the early hours of Friday at Baghdad's international airport. The airstrike was ordered by US President Donald Trump and led to an escalation of tensions between the two nations.
This is not the first time in the recent times that India has issued an advisory over using the Iranian airspace.
India asks airlines to exercise caution
India has asked its airlines to exercise caution while flying over the Iranian air space.
ET Bureau | Updated: Jan 05, 2020, 10.33 AM IST
Reuters
New Delhi: Amid escalating tensions between the US and Iran, India has asked its airlines to exercise caution while flying over the Iranian air space and avoid it to the extent possible.
Indian airlines, however, have not yet decided to stop flying over the Indian airspace. “We have been asked to exercise caution and we have noted that. But flying over the Iranian airspace will continue and no route change is being planned for now,” said an Air India executive, who did not want to be identified.
Almost all flights flying to west of India to destinations in Europe and the US use the Iranian airspace and national carrier Air India is the largest number of flights to the west among Indian carriers.
The US government announced that Iranian general Qassem Suleimani was killed in an airstrike in Baghdad in the early hours of Friday at Baghdad's international airport. The airstrike was ordered by US President Donald Trump and led to an escalation of tensions between the two nations.
This is not the first time in the recent times that India has issued an advisory over using the Iranian airspace.
India asks airlines to exercise caution
Babak Taghvaee (@BabakTaghvaee) Tweeted:
This made my day, the world's top terrorist leader #Khamenei can be seen crying hard during funeral of his beloved #Soleimani 2 hours ago in #Tehran. He ordered massacre of 1,500 protesters during recent #IranProtests and made thousands of Iranians to grieve for their loved ones. Babak Taghvaee on Twitter ( )
This made my day, the world's top terrorist leader #Khamenei can be seen crying hard during funeral of his beloved #Soleimani 2 hours ago in #Tehran. He ordered massacre of 1,500 protesters during recent #IranProtests and made thousands of Iranians to grieve for their loved ones. Babak Taghvaee on Twitter ( )
If you are referring to war, then no such thing will happen.
Yes if US had lost the war but since they won ,they weren't. Victors write history u know. And then there was an ongoing war between US and Japan.
Apples and Oranges sir
Not really.
A war crime is not a war crime but just a crime without a war ...
Cheers, Doc
U need to look at definitions or atleast use logic. There are various conventions under it signed by various countries
You need to grow up quickly and realise that no one cares about those definitions.
Cheers, Doc
Already the Saudis have sent a delegation to Washington. They dont want a war their pretty army cant fight. Iran is like a beat up 15 year old car, a few fender benders wont matter to it as long as the regime manages to stay in power. Saudis are shit scared about taking any damages which will cost them a pretty penny to fix especially at a time when money is not that easy and they are trying very hard to move away from an Oil economy
The Persians are past masters at fighting the west.
They've been doing it successfully for 3500 years, back and forth.
This is going to be a very messy and costly fight, if at all the US actually gets into one.
Which from where I stand is a very big if.
Cheers, Doc
They've been doing it successfully for 3500 years, back and forth.
This is going to be a very messy and costly fight, if at all the US actually gets into one.
Which from where I stand is a very big if.
Cheers, Doc
No. It means you actually need to grow up.
Coz your posts are too theoretical or idealistic or naive and fantastical for even a 20 something.
Do you think the west cares about these rules when they wage their wars?
Do you know who made these rules? Who breaks them the most? And who adjudicates and prosecutes on them?
Do you know where the Hague is?
Cheers, Doc
There is no declared war between US and Iran.
For equivalence, what US did is like: Soviet Union assassinating US centcom commander, because he had supplied weapons to Afghan mujahedeen who had killed thousands of Soviet troops.
Now, the US thinks it can get away with it.. But, what the US did was killing the second most powerful man in the regime, to weaken Khamenei's grip on power, and also Iran's grip on proxies abroad. So, it is kind of a regime change attempt. After, tomorrow when Soleimani is buried in Kerman, it would get very interesting, and many American soldiers will die..
Khamenei will not let this pass.. And without invasion of Iran, no amount of bombing from the sky will topple the regime..
No. While there were laws in place to protect civilians for attack, specifically from artillery, there we no protections from aerial assaults under the existing Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907. Arguments linking radioactive fallout, which is poisonous, to a ban on chemical weapons was rejected by the International Court of Justice in 1996. Other rules or laws governing "unnecessary suffering" were deemed non-applicable to nuclear weapons.
About the only convention that could have been violated where statutes on targeting industrial centers. Hiroshima did not have a major industrial zone within its city limits, but it did have HQs of several Japanese army units and up to 40,000 troops stationed in the city, so again, these could also be argued as legitimate targets.
There are no international treaties or law banning the use of nuclear weapons. Such treaties have been voted on, but where never passed or ratified by nuclear powers.
Maybe. I can be argued that Soleimani was a legitimate target because he was a party to combatant forces targeting the Americans in Iraq and supporting combatant activities around the region which do engage in conflict or hostile actions. There is no declared war between Iran and the United States, but that doesn't mean any strike is a crime or the killing of a commander is illegal, just undeclared.
International laws do allow of the killing of enemy combatants during non-war times if there is sufficient cause. There doesn't have to be a declared war for a war crime to take place. Any crime committed against combatants outside of a declared war isn't automatically a war crime. Any action needs to be measured against existing, ratified and party-to conventions and statutes.
the US is not a party to the International Criminal Court and does not accept its jurisdiction over American troops or actions.
The IRGC is not a military force, it is an official part of the Iranian military, but from a legal perspective it's a paramilitary outfit and is thus not subjected to the same laws or rules or protections afforded to militaries. Under international laws they would be considered "Unlawful combatants" with the same protections as militants the US fought during the Iraqi insurgency or during its campaign against ISIS... or India in Kashmir. They would be governed by the relevant national law of the combatant power.
American contractors are of the same category. Combatants or support elements, but not soldiers in the eyes of the law.
Same with Russia's current crop of PMCs like the Wagner Group.
If captured, they are to be treated as armed civilians and are subjected to each governments laws, not international treaties.
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