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The US will probably be blamed for this too.

Stampede kills 50 at Soleimani's burial in Iran

Qasem Soleimani: Stampede kills 50 mourners at burial in Iran

Fifty people have been killed and more than 200 injured in a stampede as Iranians gathered for the burial of a leading commander killed in a US drone strike.
 
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STEPHEN COHEN said:
Iran wants the Leadership of OIC and to make a Shia CRESCENT

But what is the need for ENMITY with
USA and Israel
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Maybe they have a civilizational disdain for being dictated to?

Especially by people they once sheltered and saved from annihilation.

As I said. They have a 2500 year history of fighting the "west".

It's a difficult concept for some civilizations to grasp admittedly.

Cheers, Doc
 
nair said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1214527469081874432

Interesting insights
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This tweet is like making a pro-ISIS argument just because they were fighting the Assad regime in Syria.
STEPHEN COHEN said:
Iran wants the Leadership of OIC and to make a Shia CRESCENT

But what is the need for ENMITY with
USA and Israel
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Just another Islamic regime that thinks it can spread influence via terrorism through proxies. Sunni or Shia it makes no difference, the goals are the same and the methods of achieving them are the same.
 
_Anonymous_ said:
Andrew Lawrence (@ndrew_lawrence) Tweeted:
Fox host defends America committing war crimes: "I don't care about Iranian cultural sites and I'll tell you why. If they could ... they would destroy every single one of our cultural sites and build a mosque on top of it" Andrew Lawrence on Twitter (
https://twitter.com/x/status/1214309954896707584
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It's amazing that no one ever points out war crimes when Iran is involved, because it's expected from them. They attacked a civilian oil facility, and an embassy and hijacked a civilian tanker, not to mention all the terrorism inside and outside Iraq they've been involved in. They should consider one general a very small price to pay.
 
BMD said:
It's amazing that no one ever points out war crimes when Iran is involved, because it's expected from them. They attacked a civilian oil facility, and an embassy and hijacked a civilian tanker, not to mention all the terrorism inside and outside Iraq they've been involved in. They should consider one general a very small price to pay.
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When is Britain going to extract it's revenge on Iran?
 
vsdoc said:
Maybe they have a civilizational disdain for being dictated to?

Especially by people they once sheltered and saved from annihilation.

As I said. They have a 2500 year history of fighting the "west".

It's a difficult concept for some civilizations to grasp admittedly.

Cheers, Doc
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Iran was a Greek colony following Alexander's defeat of DariusDarius for nearly 2 centuries before the Parthians overthrew the Greeks. They were occupied by the Arabs who extinguished their Nation their independence & their religion. They were occupied by the Turks in the 11th century. Followed by Hulegu Khan & the Ilkhanates of Mongol infamy. Then there were the Azerbaijani Turkic Safavid dynasty who forcibly converted a mostly Sunni Iran to Shia'ism. Followed by Nader Shah Afshar who was of Turcomen origin.

You don't know much of your own history do you? In spite of all that braggadocio about being a Persian & all that blah.
 
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_Anonymous_ said:
When is Britain going to extract it's revenge on Iran?
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When you see a zombie feeding on itself, there really is no need to intervene.

_Anonymous_ said:
Iran was a Greek colony following Alexander's defeat of DariusDarius for nearly 2 centuries before the Parthians overthrew the Greeks. They were occupied by the Arabs who extinguished their Nation their independence & their religion. They were occupied by the Turks in the 11th century. Followed by Hulegu Khan & the Ilkhanates of Mongol infamy. Then there were the Azerbaijani Turkic Safavid dynasty who forcibly converted a mostly Sunni Iran to Shia'ism. Followed by Nader Shah Afshar who was of Turcomen origin.

You don't know much of your own history do you? In spite of all that braggadocio about being a Persian & all that blah.
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So Turks forcibly converted Iran to Shia'ism and then converted to Sunni'ism? Yet further proof that neither Islam or Islamists make any sense.

I never thought I'd say this but the Arabs seem to have had the right idea in this story.
 
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BMD said:
When you see a zombie feeding on itself, there really is no need to intervene.


So Turks forcibly converted Iran to Shia'ism and then converted to Sunni'ism? Yet further proof that neither Islam or Islamists make any sense.

I never thought I'd say this but the Arabs seem to have had the right idea in this story.
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The Safavids were a Azeri Turkic community who founded the Safavid dynasty in Iran & forcibly converted a Sunni majority Iran to the Shia variant. Just like Henry VIII introduced Protestantism into England and violently tried to convert as many as possible to Protestantism with him as it's head instead of the Pope. Don't you have laws which decree that the Royal Family has to be Anglicans & your PM can't be a Roman Catholic too? Or have these laws now changed?

Sometimes I wish all Abrahamic faiths sort out their issues against each other by the sword while the non Abrahamics play the role of a bystander. The world would be a much more peaceful place after that.
 
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I'd say Iranians have a few surprises up their sleeves. They put in a few upgrades to their F-14s, snuck in thermal batteries for their phoenixes and have been generally good in employing wacky ideas. They ll take a fair amount of punches from the US but they will hurt the Arabs bad.

Also given the way they think, they will have gamed their response to a US attack factoring in Gulf War 1 and 2. US wont be able to bribe its way out this time.
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As long as the current Iranian air force flies, it dies.

But yeah, the US won't be able to bribe their way to victory.
 
Jaymax said:
They know that. They will not risk their F-14s for anything. But other stuff can be sent on one way missions. They will be counting on drones and unconventional means to do most of the damage anyways
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They have actually tried that with Israel and failed quite miserably. Even their so-called stealth knock-offs were useless.

As for the F-14s, there's no point talking about risking it or not. The operational fleet is too small and is not BVR capable. When the war with Iraq broke out, they managed to get only a dozen F-14s flying, and this was back in the 80s. It's been 40 years since then.

Pakistan's air force, without counting the F-16, is many times more powerful than Iran's already.

The reality is the Iranians need a large amount of Flankers, and later Felons, and time to accrue experience. Their air force is simply incapable of fighting the US today. They also need a lot of quick reaction SAMs, they have none today.
 
Iran OKs bill calling U.S. military, Pentagon terrorists after Qasem Soleimani killing

Iran OKs bill calling U.S. military, Pentagon terrorists after Qasem Soleimani killing

I here ISIS is to pass a similar bill.
randomradio said:
Would you like to know how long the West has armed and funded Pakistan?

ISIS and Iran are cute in comparison.
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I'm aware of the history and it's not great but Trump is moving away from that. Iran and ISIS only seem cute by comparison because they're not at your border, just like a tiger seems cute when in it's in an enclosure at a zoo. I guess Pakistan also seemed cute because it wasn't at the border of Western Europe and the Soviets were. One mistake doesn't make another similar mistake sensible.

randomradio said:
As for the F-14s, there's no point talking about risking it or not. The operational fleet is too small and is not BVR capable.
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Really?
 
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randomradio said:
As long as the current Iranian air force flies, it dies.

But yeah, the US won't be able to bribe their way to victory.
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Iraq and Afghanistan were drawn-out campaigns because they tried to rebuild and peace keep afterwards. They would have been remarkably short if they had ceased operations after regime removal and elimination.
Jaymax said:
I'd say Iranians have a few surprises up their sleeves. They put in a few upgrades to their F-14s, snuck in thermal batteries for their phoenixes and have been generally good in employing wacky ideas. They ll take a fair amount of punches from the US but they will hurt the Arabs bad.

Also given the way they think, they will have gamed their response to a US attack factoring in Gulf War 1 and 2. US wont be able to bribe its way out this time.
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Iraq and Afghanistan were drawn-out campaigns because they tried to rebuild and peace keep afterwards. They would have been remarkably short if they had ceased operations after regime removal and elimination. There is also the option of a lesser operation to wipe out Iran's navy and air defences and a large portion of their military assets from the air. Sort of like the first 5.5 weeks of Desert Storm.
 
Iran has been at it for some time, it was high time someone kicked them in the face.

Iran behind two assassinations in Netherlands – minister

Iran behind two assassinations in Netherlands – minister

Foreign minister says there is ‘strong’ evidence Iran directed killings of two Dutch nationals


Denmark accuses Iran of assassination plot

Denmark accuses Iran of activist murder plot

Denmark has accused Iran's intelligence agencies of planning to assassinate an Iranian activist on Danish soil.
 
Let's review Iran's greatest hits over the last year or so.


Iran behind two assassinations in Netherlands – minister

Iran behind two assassinations in Netherlands – minister

Foreign minister says there is ‘strong’ evidence Iran directed killings of two Dutch nationals


Denmark accuses Iran of assassination plot

Denmark accuses Iran of activist murder plot

Denmark has accused Iran's intelligence agencies of planning to assassinate an Iranian activist on Danish soil.





Saudi oil attack drones launched in Iran - US officials



Saudi oil attacks: Drones and missiles launched from Iran - US



Iran claims it has seized third oil tanker in Gulf as tensions with US rise



Iran claims it has seized third oil tanker in Gulf as tensions with US rise



US civilian contractor killed, several troops injured in rocket attack on Iraqi military base



US civilian contractor killed, several troops injured in rocket attack on Iraqi military base




Iran Is Accused Of Being Behind Attack At U.S. Embassy In Iraq



Iran Is Accused Of Being Behind Attack At U.S. Embassy In Iraq
 
BMD said:
Let's review Iran's greatest hits over the last year or so.


Iran behind two assassinations in Netherlands – minister

Iran behind two assassinations in Netherlands – minister

Foreign minister says there is ‘strong’ evidence Iran directed killings of two Dutch nationals


Denmark accuses Iran of assassination plot

Denmark accuses Iran of activist murder plot

Denmark has accused Iran's intelligence agencies of planning to assassinate an Iranian activist on Danish soil.





Saudi oil attack drones launched in Iran - US officials



Saudi oil attacks: Drones and missiles launched from Iran - US



Iran claims it has seized third oil tanker in Gulf as tensions with US rise



Iran claims it has seized third oil tanker in Gulf as tensions with US rise



US civilian contractor killed, several troops injured in rocket attack on Iraqi military base



US civilian contractor killed, several troops injured in rocket attack on Iraqi military base




Iran Is Accused Of Being Behind Attack At U.S. Embassy In Iraq



Iran Is Accused Of Being Behind Attack At U.S. Embassy In Iraq
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If that is the case then why don't we talk about USA's history..? I mean how people do you think Americans have killed after world war 2.. Iran is evil no doubt about it but what about usa . Is USA Saint..? The way I see it power Trumps everything, right or wrong it's doesn't matter.
 
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BMD said:
They've changed. But the Henry VIII analogy doesn't really work because he didn't turn back to Catholicism afterwards.
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Are you completely retarded? Did you read what I wrote there? The analogy was of a ruling class imposing his version of a chosen religion on his subject class. Where's the question of a reversion, you fool? His daughter Mary I tried it but died of consumption in a few years. His other daughter Elizabeth I or Elizabeth the Great (?) reversed all of Mary's degrees and persecuted Catholics with a relish aided by officials like the sinister Walsingham . Are you even aware of your own history? They wrecked havoc in Ireland.

BMD said:
Sure it would, you'd just be left with peace-loving Muslims with no one else to distract them and take the heat while they go about converting the remaining infidels, like Hindus, Sikhs and Buddists to goat matrimony. Your ideas are about as well thought through as the BCR's attack on the Japanese Empire in Season 4 of The Man in the High Castle.
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Again! I was referring to ALL Abrahamic religions, retard, not a select few. I said let all Abrahamic religions settle their disputes by the sword, which in dummy terms or Irish terms means, let all Judaic, Christian & Islamic religions settle their disputes by the sword.

My God, man. You're *censored*ing thick. Till date I didn't think so & merely referred to stereotypes. Never realized, they were true.
 
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