What according to you should be Indian Military strategy, tactics or technology build up?

surgical strike has become a joke...
Pak sponsored terrorist hit again
No Indian gives a damn about this...those Pakistanis are coming every day. POK is under Pak

sharam tak nahi ati hai... logo ko.
 
screambowl said:
surgical strike has become a joke...
Pak sponsored terrorist hit again
No Indian gives a damn about this...those Pakistanis are coming every day. POK is under Pak

sharam tak nahi ati hai... logo ko.
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Hey, ppl can take your BS only to a limit. Your crossing it. Why don’t you take a holiday and buzz off for few days. You are really annoying everyone on all threads.
 
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There been an attack and looses are taken. RIP
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There been an attack and looses are taken. RIP
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You people are so addicted to such slaps. You just proved my point. I am not and my job is to wake you ppl up that behave and take back your territory than crying all the time.
 
Folks, one thing is for sure, till the time Pakistan exists, India will keep bleeding like this. Period.
 
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@randomradio your opinion on this topic pls
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What we are seeing and hearing is a Marxist interpretation of current affairs not the analysis of an ex Indian Naval chief .While he does make some relevant points , He keeps emphasising on trade deals that various nations have concluded with China as if that's a guarantee of China accepting the status quo . Someone forgot to tell him that trade pretty much interlinked all the European powers but didn't prevent WW-1.

He had no prescriptive ideas to offer as to what India's response to Chinese belligerence ought to be except for emphasising China's strength repeatedly ( wonder if it's a hint to the Indian audience to bury our legitimate claims and grievances & seek China's overlordship )

Apart from an unduly alarmist mindset without any prescriptive offering for us to remedy our current situation and aside from homilies to indigenization , self reliance and independence of thought and action , his views and the terminologies he uses comes across as extremely 20 th century cold war language and hence dated .
 
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vstol Jockey said:
Adm is absolutely correct. We lose our freedom and independent foreign policy once we become dependent on US weapons.
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If that's the case , we already are becoming dependent . The IN itself is flying P-8I Poseidons and seeking surveillance apart from hunter killer drones . What's your take on that ?
 
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If that's the case , we already are becoming dependent . The IN itself is flying P-8I Poseidons and seeking surveillance apart from hunter killer drones . What's your take on that ?
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All this will work only against China and not against Pakistan unless the deal with US includes dismembering Pakistan. US has much more to gain in Central Asia and ME, especially against Iran by creating an independent Balochistan. This will cut out the expansion of China beyond SCS into IOR and CIS at the same time, US can destabilise IRAN using Balochistan as a large part of Baloch territory was gifted by British to Iran as part of "The Great Game". The largest amount of oil is contained in these territories of Iranian Sistan and Balochistan. This will also confine Pakistan to just pak Punjab only and make it land locked. Dissolve Durandline and control entire backyard of Russia thru Afghanistan and CIS with a clear land route to CIS thru Afghanistan and Gwader Port.
 
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vstol Jockey said:
All this will work only against China and not against Pakistan unless the deal with US includes dismembering Pakistan. US has much more to gain in Central Asia and ME, especially against Iran by creating an independent Balochistan. This will cut out the expansion of China beyond SCS into IOR and CIS at the same time, US can destabilise IRAN using Balochistan as a large part of Baloch territory was gifted by British to Iran as part of "The Great Game". The largest amount of oil is contained in these territories of Iranian Sistan and Balochistan. This will also confine Pakistan to just pak Punjab only and make it land locked. Dissolve Durandline and control entire backyard of Russia thru Afghanistan and CIS with a clear land route to CIS thru Afghanistan and Gwader Port.
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Yes . But my post was in context of your answer w.r.t the video of Adm Bhagwat who claimed that we're mortgaging our interests to the US - a stand you've concurred with .

I can't think of a better strategy to handle Pakistan and China at the same time than what you've listed above . I suspect the same has been in the thoughts of the powers that be in Washington and Delhi as well without the Iranian Angle in Delhi as that'd open up too many fronts in one go . Besides the new Balochistan nation , if it comes into being , has also to be a viable state in every sense of the term which includes handling its own security - internal and external . What you are suggesting will convert Balochistan into another Iraq where what's remaining of Pakistan will be after them , Iran too apart from the fact that there's a significant section of Pakhtuns domiciled as of now in Pakistani Balochistan.
 
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Yes . But my post was in context of your answer w.r.t the video if Adm Bhagwat who claimed that we're mortgaging our interests to the US - a stand you've concurred with .

I can't think of a better strategy to handle Pakistan and China at the same time than what you've listed above . I suspect the same has been in the thoughts of the oiw s that be in Washington and Delhi as well without the Iranian Angle as that'd open up too many fronts in one go . Besides the new Balochistan nation , if it comes into being , has also to be a viable state in every sense of the term which includes handling its own security - internal and external . What you are suggesting will convert Balochistan into another Iraq where what's remaining of Pakistan will be after them , Iran too apart from the fact that there's a significant section of Pakhtuns domiciled as if now in Pakistani Balochistan.
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Though I would love to see an independent baluchistan but it's a dream and may not come true that easily and cheaply. Creation of baluchistan needs at least 2 of three neighbors ie afghanistan, pakistan and Iran to be in favour of it and still it will be a bloody war. Pakistan will use it's nuclear bogey to threaten everyone and china will also jump in to safeguard it's economic intrest of its client.
Also I don't see Iran and america working together in foreseeable future.
 
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Yes . But my post was in context of your answer w.r.t the video if Adm Bhagwat who claimed that we're mortgaging our interests to the US - a stand you've concurred with .

I can't think of a better strategy to handle Pakistan and China at the same time than what you've listed above . I suspect the same has been in the thoughts of the oiw s that be in Washington and Delhi as well without the Iranian Angle as that'd open up too many fronts in one go . Besides the new Balochistan nation , if it comes into being , has also to be a viable state in every sense of the term which includes handling its own security - internal and external . What you are suggesting will convert Balochistan into another Iraq where what's remaining of Pakistan will be after them , Iran too apart from the fact that there's a significant section of Pakhtuns domiciled as if now in Pakistani Balochistan.
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I still agree with Adm Bhagwat. Our China policy will become hostage to US china policy. We will be sucked into a conflict which may not have anything to do with us. The best course of option for us is to dismember Pakistan with a tacit understanding with China and solve our border problem with China based on 1913 draft agreement also reinforced by Mao in 1959 and again restated by China very recently during Doklam crisis. We were used as cannon fodder by British during two world wars. Let us not be used in the similar manner in third world war by USA. We have no problem with china except for Aksai Chin area. They have repeatedly accepted MacMohan line as border for NE India. In Aksai Chin, the claim of CHina is correct historically and ours is based only on Johnsons Line which was never accepted by anyone as the correct border between erstwhile J&K state even under the lifetime of Second Maharaja of J&K in 1865.
Regarding Balochistan, We want it to become our territory but will they accept it? Best is to have it as a protectorate of India and use its ethnic relations with Iranian Balochistan to reclaim the original territory of balochistan from Iran thru insurgency. Khorasan, sistan and present part of Iranian Balochistan were never the territory of Iran. They were gifted to Iran or allowed to be taken and assimilated in Iran by British. You detach these territories from Iran and Join Khorasan with Afghanistan, India gets a direct route to Russia thru caspian sea and we are able to completely dominate the old silk route as has been the case in the history. Do you know that even today in Baku there is a Hindu Temple where a Jyoti is kept burning till date?
 
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Shashank said:
Though I would love to see an independent baluchistan but it's a dream and may not come true that easily and cheaply. Creation of baluchistan needs at least 2 of three neighbors ie afghanistan, pakistan and Iran to be in favour of it and still it will be a bloody war. Pakistan will use it's nuclear bogey to threaten everyone and china will also jump in to safeguard it's economic intrest of its client.
Also I don't see Iran and america working together in foreseeable future.
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Of the three nations you've cited , except for Afghanistan , none of the other nations would be in favour of an independent Balochistan for obvious reasons . Afghanistan too would be supportive of such a measure merely as a response to Pakistani machinations within Afghanistan .
 
Shashank said:
Though I would love to see an independent baluchistan but it's a dream and may not come true that easily and cheaply. Creation of baluchistan needs at least 2 of three neighbors ie afghanistan, pakistan and Iran to be in favour of it and still it will be a bloody war. Pakistan will use it's nuclear bogey to threaten everyone and china will also jump in to safeguard it's economic intrest of its client.
Also I don't see Iran and america working together in foreseeable future.
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Pakistan will not be able to use its nukes at all for two reasons-
first they are cowards,
second who will sign the death warrant of 21 crore Pakistanis?
tell me the name of one Pakistani General who will die and let his family be burnt to ashes by launching a nuke attack on India? Do you know that death by fire which destroys your Body is considered worst in Islam as that takes away from you the right to be revoked on the judgement day. Pak tank crew used to run away the moment they were hit in every war which we have fought with them as they did not want to be burnt.
Regarding China's role in next Indo-Pak war. If they intervene in any such war, they can forget about Taiwan forever and also Tibet. In any future war in SCS or Pacific with china as an enemy, it will be dismembered in similar manner as Pakistan. Tibet becoming a protectorate of india and mainland divided into four separate parts as it was till 17th Century.
US is today scared of dealing with N Korea due to China's role which might intervene in any future conflict between US and NK. They need India to create that pressure under their soft belly in south to stop them from going full throttle in support of NK to tie down PLA some 2500kms away from China-NK border. And for that US needs India and supports our view point to dismember Pakistan. Once Pakistan is dismembered, PLA will have to face an army which is nearly as big as its full PLA.
 
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