What according to you should be Indian Military strategy, tactics or technology build up?

randomradio said:
1.2 billion vs 200 million. You do the math.
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Pakistan has high birth rate. They replace the dead quickly. That is the point.

Pakistan is a bankrupt nation that doesn't even have food domestically. They are being kept alive by Arab funding. When oil runs out, Pakistan will also run out of support. Sometimes one has to play long. People have been retarded for 1400 years. Waiting another 15 years is not a big deal. Is it?
 
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_Anonymous_ said:
Perhaps one reason why the US has been acting belligerent against Pakistan off late is the opening up of the Chahbahar port . Read that alongside the signing of the LEMOA and connect the dots .
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No, it is Islamic Military Alliance that pissed off USA, Russia and even China. The ISIS was trained and funded by Arabs, Turkey and Pakistan. They were raised to call for judgement day and subsequent alliance of muslims.
 
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Kshithij Sharma said:
See, there is nothing called 6th generation plane as of now. Let me amke you understand generations here:

4th geenration planes are planes with FBW systems and some amount of automation. This came in 1980s. But as computer revolution happened in 1990s, there was development of better capabilities like AESA, inter-communication, EW, SPJ, sensor fusion etc and there came our 4.5 generation. With addition of stealth, it became 5th generation.

Since Indian IT revolution happened only after 2000, the Tejas which was conceived before that became obsolete even before it started. India didn't have any intention of making a cutting edge technology but merely wanted to replicate the 4th generation ones of other countries. So, some modifications had to take place. However, the biggest reason for delays was due to UPA government purposefully scuttling defence deals. This was true not only for Tejas but Also for other items like IAC-1, Scorpene, Nuclear submarines, Kaveri engine and many other defence modernisation, almost all of them conceived in Vajpayee time.

But, despite the delays, since the research had been sanctioned, DRDO had funds and they used it for developing as much as they could despite hostile government. The Tejas plane had limited sorties between 2009-2014 which also reduced the feedback and caused further delays. They also delayed Kaveri by not building a high altitude test bed which was crucial. The main grievance was in high altitude tests. The only way Kaveri could be fine tuned was by repeated testing. Flying it once to Russia is of little use at all.

Instead of understanding the real problem, you are pointing at arbitrary directions. India has no dearth of intelligent people. If DRDO is having too much of a red tape, then government can fund a private company via LIC and then hire scientists of higher quality to do joint development. There are several ways to bypass the bureaucracy problems if there is government will. But, congress was the thorn and has always been. Indian poos military research is due to congress scuttling them. India could have developed nuclear bombs in 1960s like China did. Nuclear submarines also could have been made in 1970s-80s and so on. Congress scuttled all of them under directions from their political masters abroad.
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Wow! do you come up with all this drivel in one go or it takes practice and effort over a period of time!
 
Kshithij Sharma said:
See, there is nothing called 6th generation plane as of now. Let me amke you understand generations here:

4th geenration planes are planes with FBW systems and some amount of automation. This came in 1980s. But as computer revolution happened in 1990s, there was development of better capabilities like AESA, inter-communication, EW, SPJ, sensor fusion etc and there came our 4.5 generation. With addition of stealth, it became 5th generation.

Since Indian IT revolution happened only after 2000, the Tejas which was conceived before that became obsolete even before it started. India didn't have any intention of making a cutting edge technology but merely wanted to replicate the 4th generation ones of other countries. So, some modifications had to take place. However, the biggest reason for delays was due to UPA government purposefully scuttling defence deals. This was true not only for Tejas but Also for other items like IAC-1, Scorpene, Nuclear submarines, Kaveri engine and many other defence modernisation, almost all of them conceived in Vajpayee time.

But, despite the delays, since the research had been sanctioned, DRDO had funds and they used it for developing as much as they could despite hostile government. The Tejas plane had limited sorties between 2009-2014 which also reduced the feedback and caused further delays. They also delayed Kaveri by not building a high altitude test bed which was crucial. The main grievance was in high altitude tests. The only way Kaveri could be fine tuned was by repeated testing. Flying it once to Russia is of little use at all.

Instead of understanding the real problem, you are pointing at arbitrary directions. India has no dearth of intelligent people. If DRDO is having too much of a red tape, then government can fund a private company via LIC and then hire scientists of higher quality to do joint development. There are several ways to bypass the bureaucracy problems if there is government will. But, congress was the thorn and has always been. Indian poos military research is due to congress scuttling them. India could have developed nuclear bombs in 1960s like China did. Nuclear submarines also could have been made in 1970s-80s and so on. Congress scuttled all of them under directions from their political masters abroad.
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I permanently lost some IQ points reading this.
 
randomradio said:
I permanently lost some IQ points reading this.
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_Anonymous_ said:
Serves you right . Keep quoting and replying to him . You'd lose the rest pretty soon too .
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You have to explain with good reasons to say what is wrong in what I said. The problem with you is that you want everyone to tow your line and don't accept any counter argument. If you have some other theory, please state. Otherwise, you never had any IQ to begin with
 
Kshithij Sharma said:
You have to explain with good reasons to say what is wrong in what I said. The problem with you is that you want everyone to tow your line and don't accept any counter argument. If you have some other theory, please state. Otherwise, you never had any IQ to begin with
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I'd refer your post to @randomradio. Only he can answer you. In case you haven't noticed he's a very patient person .
 
randomradio said:
I permanently lost some IQ points reading this.
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If I was not clear, I will give pointers:
- development of semiconductors is what gave rise to 4th generation planes. Then there was a revolution is computing which was increase of speed of computing for the same size and power requirements drastically due to new technology. This gave rise to 4.5 and 5th generation planes. But, there has been no revolution of any technology since 1990s and hence no new generation (6th) is in sight. So 6th generation will remain a dream for foreseeable future. No point even thinking about it.
- Since Tejas incorporates all the modern technology, the 5th generation plane will not have much of inventions and research needed. Just a better design is all it takes. The technology of Tejas can be transferred to AMCA with minor modifications.
- Tejas delays were a result of the advent of new technology which was not considered while designing Tejas and also political problems. There is no point looking at Tejas delays as a benchmark for other fighter planes like AMCA. It is an anomaly, not benchmark.
- FOC, is not a big issue as there is no big problems. Also, Mk2 and AMCA are also easier due to the advancement made
 
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Kshithij Sharma said:
Pakistan has high birth rate. They replace the dead quickly. That is the point.

Pakistan is a bankrupt nation that doesn't even have food domestically. They are being kept alive by Arab funding. When oil runs out, Pakistan will also run out of support. Sometimes one has to play long. People have been retarded for 1400 years. Waiting another 15 years is not a big deal. Is it?
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who told you Pak is bank corrupt ?? the fauji foundation has more than 500 Billion of assets..
Huh Nonsense
 
According to me, although it sounds as a joke but we must develop technologies such that we can invade whole of pakistan within two days ,yes,you guys heard it right whole invasion done within two days.

That mean investing heavily on air assault wings.

Maximum push should be about how we can offload our MASSIVE NUMBERS of TROOPS out in enemy territory.
 
Never take interview of officers at field and telecast it during the active skirmish. The enemy is clever , India needs more Vikram Batras but alive. I hope Indian govt has learnt it the hard way.
 
AbRaj said:
Or Teju Yadav. Son of Bihar ke Lala 😀
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A leader who has fought elections at ground level is more powerful and has more say in international politics than a selected employ who also served congress.

Jai shanker was only brought in to keep hold in MEA because MEA doesn't go well with the intelligence and military apparatus of India. But this strategy failed. Because S Jaishanker started to have dialogue with the Chinese and here you are with lost territories.
 
screambowl said:
A leader who has fought elections at ground level is more powerful and has more say in international politics than a selected employ who also served congress.

Jai shanker was only brought in to keep hold in MEA because MEA doesn't go well with the intelligence and military apparatus of India. But this strategy failed. Because S Jaishanker started to have dialogue with the Chinese and here you are with lost territories.
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Chara Logic.
 
AbRaj said:
Chara Logic.
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you are a jealous south Indian(n)
You are jealous of how come the traditional NSA post went to a north india which was held by south Indians mostly and now spoiling his game by negotiating with China. Finally many south Indians have good relation with Chinese in Singapore. ;)
 
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screambowl said:
you are a jealous south Indian(n)
You are jealous of how come the traditional NSA post went to a north india which was held by south Indians mostly and now spoiling his game by negotiating with China. Finally many south Indians have good relation with Chinese in Singapore. ;)
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by the way he is not from south :LOL:
For god sake at least get your facts right before doing your circus.
 
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