ADA AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft

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randomradio said:
That tweet is very vague. Anyway, the decision for the definitive engine for AMCA is yet to be taken. It will be the product of whatever GTRE comes up with SAFRAN, but you can't dismiss its failure either. So they have kept the window open for cooperation on new engines with the British and Russians also, maybe even the Americans, including outright import of a next gen engine. The EJ2x0 is also high up on the list of candidates for AMCA alongside K10, K11 etc. What this also means is the French will not be able to hold our program hostage. If the Indo-French program fails, there will be alternatives.

The number with the letter K indicates the thrust level. K8 = 7-8T. K9 = 8-9T. K10 = 9-10T. Obviously K10 won't be enough to power the AMCA, which requires a K12 if you will, ie 11-12T. GTRE has plans for higher thrust engines as well.

The French are not helping us develop a definitive engine for AMCA, they are only helping us develop a working engine which may later be used on AMCA. Whether that engine will actually be used by ADA for AMCA will be decided by ADA at a later date, and it will have to compete with other foreign engines. GTRE is only a participant. Regardless of whether GTRE's dream of powering the LCA and AMCA with an Indian-designed engine succeeds, their engine will be used to power trains, tanks, ships etc.

This is a 10+ year program after all. The only engine confirmed for AMCA today is the F414. So I think the tweet is dismissing the Kaveri for the initial flight test.
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F414 is not a 12T engine.
 
Bon Plan said:
F414 is not a 12T engine.
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F414 is only a 98KN engine right now. And it's only an interim engine for AMCA. There is a 117KN version in the works, but it's not necessary this will be the definitive engine for AMCA, it needs a much more modern engine.
 
TARGET said:
I am not sure what kind of tie up they want with India’s AMCA as Amca is already in progress with a engine that’s GE 414 .
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GE 414 Only for developmental purpose right ?
We were looking for partner in Kaveri to power AMCA.
Snecma already confirmed ?

Also there was previous some deal with EFT for engine collaboration.. not sure of details.
 
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sid4587 said:
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The leading edges and lagging edges you mean. Sorry, I was confused when you said "start line"
sid4587 said:
same models they used in def expo
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I don't think they are the same models. For starters the Defexpo models didn't have "no step" all over the place or that red dotted line marking the wing body separation. Defexpo had two models : one in stealth configuration and on in non-stealth. Curiously, the model with the stealth configuration was a old design and the non-stealth was a more recent design. The model displayed here on Aero india is recent but not the final one.
 
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