ADA AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft

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And the avionics and radar in the AMCA will be much better than in the 2005 edition of F-22..

Many aircraft today have better avionics than the 2005 F-22 (Rafale, F-35 and Gripen E for example).

But by the time the F-22's MLU delivers, it will climb up the ranking again.
 
The MWF is why IAF is going whole hog on AMCA.

Without MWF, AMCA is going to be extremely difficult to develop.
I thought in addition to the MWF there's AURA. After all, the latter is key to the stealth technology which will mature in different iterations of the AMCA. I wonder how that project is progressing.
 
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The MWF is why IAF is going whole hog on AMCA.

Without MWF, AMCA is going to be extremely difficult to develop.
MWF is an iteration of the LCA. Larger airframe with more indigenous content like the Uttam AESA radar, maybe Kaveri if Safran is on board and fixes it, avionics and some other stealth coatings to slightly reduce the current radar signature. This means most of the technologies are mature enough with the already developed aeronautical ecosystem that we achieved with LCA even though that took a ton of time

AMCA would be on a whole new level since it's primarily aimed at stealth, internal weapons bay, sensor fusion etc which is what our research orgs are new to. It's important we bring all research orgs, universities and private Indian defence firms on board to get the ball rolling and project management is a crucial aspect in this regard
 
So you're saying IAF should import Gripen instead? Because the IAF isn't gonna wait for something that's 15 years away, they need something that's 5 years away. It's MWF or Gripen E. At 24/year, 6 squadrons of MWF will be delivered between 2028 and 2032. AMCA will be delivered only after 2035, not considering delays.

Long ago I stated IAF needs 200+ twin engine MMRCA and 200+ single engine MMRCA, and that we need deliveries from 3 production lines, ie, 3 different aircraft, to be simultaneously delivered in order to make up for squadron drawdown. And this requirement has not changed. So the choice is between MWF and Gripen E, AMCA isn't even in competition here.

GoI has to make the budget work.
Going with the Gripen E would essentially kill the MWF and future AMCA as well along with all the aeronautical ecosystem that we developed so far with the LCA project. Even if there's a delay, we have enough capability to defend our skies with the current fighter jet inventory. Turkey is going with the TFX, Korea with the KFX and Japan with F-3 to reduce dependency on foreign countries. In my regard, going with MMRCA 2.0 for a single engine jet is a waste as well and I'd say invest that money to fastrack the development and increased production of MWF which would pave way for AMCA within a decade
 
I was referring to the stealth aspect. After all that's the defining characteristic of 5th gen Fighter Aircraft.

The experience will help. But it's still not a fighter jet that's been designed for high Gs and greater agility. The stealth design is all-round and completely different on AURA.
 
The experience will help. But it's still not a fighter jet that's been designed for high Gs and greater agility. The stealth design is all-round and completely different on AURA.


Harsh Vardhan Thakur (@hvtiaf) Tweeted:
@DRDO Defence Lab Jodhpur develops radar absorbent paints & materials for many years now. We've numerous design & test facilities within India. Many Test facilities for AMCA R&D:-

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Harsh Vardhan Thakur (@hvtiaf) Tweeted:
@prajprakprakash @drdo LCA Mk-2 cockpit will be ahead of F-35. Avionics will be similar and hopefully at par with F-35. Sensor fusion is a design driver.

AMCA is aiming a little ahead of F-35. We've to demonstrate that. Automation is the bedrock. Intelligence is a design driver. ( )
 
Harsh Vardhan Thakur (@hvtiaf) Tweeted:
@DRDO Defence Lab Jodhpur develops radar absorbent paints & materials for many years now. We've numerous design & test facilities within India. Many Test facilities for AMCA R&D:-

DLJ
https://t.co/M0WREhTMbg

RCI - DLRL
Orange to add teeth to India’s gen-next weapon systems

NAL CSIR
CSIR - National Aerospace Laboratories HS on Twitter Harsh Vardhan Thakur on Twitter ( )


Harsh Vardhan Thakur (@hvtiaf) Tweeted:
@prajprakprakash @drdo LCA Mk-2 cockpit will be ahead of F-35. Avionics will be similar and hopefully at par with F-35. Sensor fusion is a design driver.

AMCA is aiming a little ahead of F-35. We've to demonstrate that. Automation is the bedrock. Intelligence is a design driver. ( )

Why didn't we upgrade cockpit in Mk1A?
 
Yes hal has already displayed advanced cockpit in LCA sports. If they have the technology then they must use it with MK1A.

I thought 2 side stick aircrafts use the large central single display.

Then LCA sport must have side sticks.

Irrespective of that, I thought Mk1A should have betterment than Mk1
 
I thought 2 side stick aircrafts use the large central single display.

Then LCA sport must have side sticks.

Irrespective of that, I thought Mk1A should have betterment than Mk1

What is this LCA Sport? It's like I20 sports. LOL!. Is this just a trainer? I've seen a youtube video about the LCA sport just assumed its fan-made. Is there anything official?
 
How come? The fund is for ADA. Even the last EOI is from them.

All major UAV and UCAV projects are headed by ADE. But since ADA is the designer, the first phase of the project is handled by ADA. Then the project will be transferred over to ADE for flight testing. Only DRDO can answer why they are running it this way. But of course, only ADE has the expertise necessary for UCAV testing.