Question is do they have that sort of money?
And is Sweden and SAAB ready to part with their technology with China.....
Air Battle over Kashmir : MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16
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And is Sweden and SAAB ready to part with their technology with China.....
Sweedish are neutral in nature, they will sell anything to anyone if they get payed well.Question is do they have that sort of money?
And is Sweden and SAAB ready to part with their technology with China.....
Question is do they have that sort of money?
And is Sweden and SAAB ready to part with their technology with China.....
Naturally they do not. Anyway, the issue for SAAB is the Swedish govt has to authorise the sale to Pak, and they are not interested in giving them offensive weapons technologies due to their track record in terrorism. They also do not deliver weapons to countries that may go to war. Yeah, it's weird, but that's how they work. Outside Europe, they only made an exception for India. Pakistan had evinced their readiness in procuring the Gripen C/D along with the Erieyes, but the Swedish govt did not give permission.
It depends. By 2025, the 50 JF-17 Block IIIs will finish delivery. In case they have planned for more after that, then it will continue, or they will free up their JF-17 resources to buy a new fighter jet, and that could very well be the J-10.
They are better off going for the FC-31. The J-10 doesn't provide any advantage over the IAF. But I feel they will just keep buying more JF-17s this decade.
Their decision will tell us about their mindset. JF17 won't challenge the modernisation of IAF. To deter in the form of offensive defense they need something different. But as long as IAF doesn't introduce 5 gen fighters I doubt that PAF will go for 5th gen stuff as it puts a huge strain on the budget and manpower.
Neither the JF-17 nor the J-10. Plus they react to our purchases. If we buy something, they begin work on something that will counter it.
They haven't yet found an answer to the MKI, and they naturally do not have one for the Rafale either, never mind next gen.
More like it was already part of their training. If even I could think it up, it's likely they already practice it.
Don't forget they have power of jinns and during war they will get black fighter jets from heaven.
Their reaction is more of what is happening over the past couple of decades. Previously IAF reacted to their F16 purchases by procuring MiG 29 even though it had problems. Also T90s and T80UDs happened.
Having a longer range BVR missile is part of the answer to the MKI and PAF had it.
After obama years ,PAF hasn't got any offensive weapons .while india kept on piling mki,which itself indicated that paf has got over the idea of achieving parity with IAF .with Rafale,mki ,s400 plus any future acquisition has made it completely futile for paf to even attempt now ,coupled with the state of economy they are in.
The acquisition of jf17 indicates their mindset, to have some sort of cheap option to hold off IAF for 48 hrs till international power chip in and ceasefire occurs...
Basically they are trying to protect their honor and dignity ,by using crude talk of nuclear weapon and jingoistic blast,all those talk of man behind machine and how awesome is paf is merely attempt to hide the pathetic and pitiable condition their armed forces are in....I am yet to come across a paf chief having 4000 hrs .if we will enter war and 15 -20 f16 get shot down ,I dare say paf would not even attempt to resist.so for skirmishes they can create illusions but they are hopelessly out of the loop when it comes to the war
They have to retire lot of fighter jets in this decade. Given their financial condition I don't think they will be able to manage.
Pl-15 is the only realistic upgrade. The blk 3 have still not entered production. We most likely might get the mk1a's earlier than they inducting the blk 3's.
What would be interesting is if they buy turkish missile tech and upgrading their f-16 with turkish aesa radars....That would be interesting...
The IAF was holding back for the Astra and much longer ranged missiles. Since the focus had shifted towards China, countering them required missiles like the Derby ER and Meteor.
Astra's development had prevented the IAF from procuring an alternative in the same class. Then there was the massive delay in procuring Rafales.
As per the IAF, 2 days is all they need to deal with the PAF.
They desire to operate 20-25 squadrons, they will only be a little bit short by 2030 though, as long as they get 250+ JF-17s. Post 2030, they will need to start working on their F-16 replacement and that could complicate things for them 'cause they can't put themselves in a position where they end up relying on a single supplier.
If 150 odd JF 17 And 70 plus F 16s are on constant CAP , and firing missiles at IAF aggressor formations , How Many planes and missiles will we need to Neutralize them
PL 10 and PL 15 would be abundantly available and they still have 494 AIM 120 C 5
What if Pakistanis try to procure it from South Africa or somewhere else? How feasible it is? Since SAAF has got maintenance problem and they don't really need that high end technology, more over last few months there have been visits by Pakistanis military generals to SA for the Howitzer. I am very sure the Pakistanis will try to pitch in their JF17 to in return of Gripen., who knows.
Pull back and run for your life, not even Israel will fight in such scenario.
Block 3's already in production, they will get the first batch early next year. At 16-24 per year, they should have all 50 jets inducted by 2024.
That's impossible. Can't buy and operate something without the OEM's and govt's permission.