Air Battle over Kashmir : MiG-21 Bison shoots down F-16

Good.
About F-16.
No , none were in the strike package, were only on CAP duties.
Two parachutes were seen and there is video of that too.


In an case It was a war communique by DGISPR and confusion is created intentionally. Nothing unusual there.

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The other parachute belonged to wng cmd Nauman Akram, whose F-16 was shot down. I have already proven above. All those chaps were flying together.
Good.
About F-16.
No , none were in the strike package, were only on CAP duties.
Two parachutes were seen and there is video of that too.


In an case It was a war communique by DGISPR and confusion is created intentionally. Nothing unusual there.

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The other parachute belonged to wng cmd Nauman Akram, whose F-16 was shot down. I have already proven above. All those chaps were flying together.
 
You have proven nothing.
Noman Akram wasn't in the operation swift retort .
The person who was, his name is Noman Ali khan and he is this guy on the right.
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Noman Akram who's plane crashed recently was this guy.
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Hope this clears the confusion.
 
In an case It was a war communique by DGISPR and confusion is created intentionally. Nothing unusual there.
intentionally? I think we had enuf of these jokes. why dont you come clean on two parachutes that were sighted.
For argument sake suppose I agree with your so called confusing intentions theory, were the villagers who saw the parachute totally blind or outright liars, were they part of your drama troupe who rehearsed those dialogues for years to deceive the enemy.
 
intentionally? I think we had enuf of these jokes. why dont you come clean on two parachutes that were sighted.
For argument sake suppose I agree with your so called confusing intentions theory, were the villagers who saw the parachute totally blind or outright liars, were they part of your drama troupe who rehearsed those dialogues for years to deceive the enemy.
Watch this video to the end.
How many objects you see falling?

 
Watch this video to the end.
How many objects you see falling?

This is the video I had posted about earlier. This video is the proof of F-16 being shot down. It shows one aircraft and two ejection seats falling to the ground. Plus most important part is the hill in the background. Mig-21 had fallen much before this hill feature. We had debated the location of the Mig-21 crash site in detail and this location in the video is different from the Mig-21 location. Plus Mig-21 was a single seater, how come we see two ejection seats falling to the ground.
 
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This is the video I had posted about earlier. This video is the proof of F-16 being shot down. It shows one aircraft and two ejection seats falling to the ground. Plus most important part is the hill in the background. Mig-21 had fallen much before this hill feature. We had debated the location of the Mig-21 crash site in detail and this location in the video is different from the Mig-21 location. Plus Mig-21 was a single seater, how come we see two ejection seats falling to the ground.
No,
It shows one big parachute of the pilot and the ejection seat coming down with drag-chute. Basically this was Abhinandan.
Watch closely.
 
No,
It shows one big parachute of the pilot and the ejection seat coming down with drag-chute. Basically this was Abhinandan.
Watch closely.
You need to watch the video again. We see an aircraft crash followed after sometime by first ejection seat and closely followed by second ejection seat. for your information, I have ejected twice from fighters so please do not try and teach me what an ejection seat looks like.
 
Watch this video to the end.
How many objects you see falling?

I dont know why dont you enlighten us, it would be better to know what your understanding is. Lets make it more simple why dont you explain where the two seats are coming from. Are they doing any time travel? Are they bouncing around? I am very much sure MiG 21 does not have any business class seats at most an economy seat which accounts for one , so what about the other one.
 
No .
Both or one object falling was the tail section which was found at a distance from the main wreckage.
Actually debris fell on 3 different locations.
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This video shows the three main wreckage pieces in three places.
There were one or two more smaller pieces.
 
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The three objects seen falling in that video has two ejection seats and it is very clearly visible.
If you were a fighter pilot yourself, you may know that two seater jets don't get sent on CAP missions. They are mainly for training and ground attack / reconisence .
So why would Pakistan send two seater jet with two pilot F-16 on CAP?
Makes no sense.
The three objects seen falling in that video has two ejection seats and it is very clearly visible.
If you were a fighter pilot yourself, you may know that two seater jets don't get sent on CAP missions. They are mainly for training and ground attack / reconisence .
So why would Pakistan send two seater jet with two pilot F-16 on CAP?
Makes no sense.
 
@safriz, let me ask you a question. two objects, one weighing 10kgs and another weighing 2 kgs are dropped from a height of 5 kms to the ground. Which one will reach the ground first and why?
If you were a fighter pilot yourself, you may know that two seater jets don't get sent on CAP missions. They are mainly for training and ground attack / reconisence .
So why would Pakistan send two seater jet with two pilot F-16 on CAP?
Makes no sense.
twin seaters are sent for better air combat coordination.
 
You have proven nothing.
Noman Akram wasn't in the operation swift retort .
The person who was, his name is Noman Ali khan and he is this guy on the right.
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Noman Akram who's plane crashed recently was this guy.
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Hope this clears the confusion.


Yeah he was hospitalized after ejection. He was shot down so they didn't show him at the ceremony and to avoid being caught that Pakistan used F16 where as he was there at sargodha with the other two JF17 pilots who flew in swift retort. And they flew together.
 
Everything must be done in a measured way. It's actually of greater advantage to you if he goes around claiming he broke his leg falling down stairs. Unless you want to score brownie points trying to look tough.

Breaking someone's leg isn't a big deal, I did it to someone when I was still in school. The guy decided to say he fell instead, or else I would have gotten myself expelled. Once you cross a limit there are always repercussions.

PA relies a lot on its own image, so it has to create an image of bravado in order to stay relevant. But if they are pushed to the point where their image is completely shattered, there may not be any going back from there. Which is why GoI gave them an escape to save face.

What happened now is they used GoI's measured response to push themselves in a corner by making up stories, so the next time GoI may not care a lot about their face, since we now know for sure that they do not bite. IAF has successfully proven that there is a threshold within which the Indian military can operate without getting a significant blowback from Pakistan. This is something Pakistan has also realised and it's too late for them to turn back the clock.

Too many holes in all your assumptions.

"He" is not even claiming around that his leg is broken, who and why (broke his leg) is not even a discussion point.

How come you deducted that GoI now know that they dont bite after providing them an escape route? Did we tested them with no escape route yet, to be sure for next time open carnage?

Also didn't Pakistan also proven threshold for India? We are ready to take an attempt to air strike our Brigade HQ, our jet shot, pilot beaten and daily sniping of our soldiers.

There's nothing special what they did on the 27th. Any air force can do what they did.

But only a few will got scot free.

You are praising the ability of a bowler to bowl.

and not taken to cleaners.
 
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