Alarm Raised Over Destabilizing New Russian Threat In Space: Reports
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ASAT interception is much easier than ICBM interception, so not yet.
The difference is negligible, only about 20% in speed, Mach 20 vs Mach 25 peak speed. Most IRBM interceptors have a damn good chance against ICBMs too. Anyway, I found the graphic I was looking for earlier (note bottom right), Russia has very little chance of beating the US at nuclear powered weapons in space, when you combine this micro-reactor tech with Falcon 9 and Palcon Heavy. The US can put 10+MW lasers in space if it becomes important to security.
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Maybe Russia is also working on space Laser weapons which could neutralize all US space assets!? That's why US is looking so spooked, IMO.The difference is negligible, only about 20% in speed, Mach 20 vs Mach 25 peak speed. Most IRBM interceptors have a damn good chance against ICBMs too. Anyway, I found the graphic I was looking for earlier (note bottom right), Russia has very little chance of beating the US at nuclear powered weapons in space, when you combine this micro-reactor tech with Falcon 9 and Palcon Heavy. The US can put 10+MW lasers in space if it becomes important to security.
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If Russia can take out American early warning and surveillance satellites then their BMD will have a tough time against RS-28 and Topol-M. What say?
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Yeah, but it still matters.
Anyway, I found the graphic I was looking for earlier (note bottom right), Russia has very little chance of beating the US at nuclear powered weapons in space, when you combine this micro-reactor tech with Falcon 9 and Palcon Heavy. The US can put 10+MW lasers in space if it becomes important to security.
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Sure. No one is saying the Americans cannot compete. The question really is how destabilizing it is, and who achieved it first.
And what if the Russians use it before the Americans deploy their own? It's always the first mover advantage.
Not as much as you would think. When you boil it down, a satellite moves faster than any ICBM or IRBM.
Not if a more powerful ground laser wipes it out. My bet is that it's a nuclear powered EW system and that's all.
It's most definitely some sort of ground-breaking ASAT capability. Should we also weaponize the space with laser weapons and nuclear powered satellites? @randomradio
Then why are you crying foul if Russia is about to do the same? Even China and India will follow suit sooner or later.
ICBMs don't have defences only decoys, which don't stand up to dual-plane polarised radars or SM-3 IIR seekers. ICBMs reach a peak altitude of 1200km, above the altitude of many satellites and all previous ASAT tests. Only GBI has hit anything above 1000km.
Sure it is. You can neutralise a satellite without anything touching it. Threat is also described as 'non-immediate'. A hard-kill weapon would be 'immediate'.
Funding season.
Or maybe a US satellite takes out those satellites.
The capability is there with everyone considered a space power. But there's nothing operational.
Similarly, nobody has bio and chem weapons, but all have the ability to make them within months.
The idea behind not making such systems operational is to give diplomacy a chance.
So weaponizing space is a political decision, not a technical one.
Immediate here means it's not operational, and will not be for quite some time.
Lol. Dude have you been living under a rock? Crying foul, poverty and no capabilities is the policy of MIC to make sure its funding is never cut. In fact the more they cry the boogieman is trying to get us the more funding they get.
When you have the...
- Office of the Director of National Intelligence
- Central Intelligence Agency
- National Security Agency/Central Security Service
- Defense Intelligence Agency
- National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency
- National Reconnaissance Office
For 20 years the Delta IV alone (most powerful lifting rocket) has been launching supposedly spy/intel SATS for these agencies while at the same time much smaller less powerful rockets have been launching the same spy/intel SATS for these agencies.
I'm not saying the US has nukes in space or even """"lasers"""" but they do have a kill capability that has been orbiting for decades acting as SATS or attached to SATS that function what is claimed. I think many of these SATS are carrying some type of these kind of vehicles...
Having these kill vehicles in orbit is a violation of whatever treaty they signed and I think the US got very nervous when a Russian and chicom SAT were tailing near a US SAT not because it meant Russia and China has some new capability but because it can take a high quality picture of that SAT possibly revealing something the US shouldn't have. MIC does things outside the knowledge of Presidents and many US lawmakers.
You wouldn't know if there was.
Immediate means it doesn't warrant an immediate response in terms of counter-capabilities.
I don't think it has anything to do with missile or rocket system. Most probably a satellite system with anti sat capabilities which is to replicate the target satellite through AI generated algorithm and hijack all comms. Some what like you spoof your own identity in space with single command and carry out everything without any further command from Earth.
Here's a balanced view of the S-500. Most of its claimed capabilities are untested, even in a controlled environment without friction.
That's just DACS. All major space programs died at the end of the Cold War. Even the ridiculous idea for a 300-man space shuttle, which is perfectly doable, just needs money.
And no, there are no weapons in space. You don't need a satellite to trail other satellites for photographs, they are perfectly visible from regular telescopes on the ground and other spy satellites. Something called zoom.