The ADE guys are either trying to make a Cruise missile which can do alien stuff, or they are more useless than Hamas R&D guys.
Heck the Pakistanis are offering Air Launched Cruise Missiles for export now.
Brahmos Supersonic Cruise Missile : News, Updates and Discussions
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Heck the Pakistanis are offering Air Launched Cruise Missiles for export now.
Do you have any official documents to prove that? Total budget of the Nirbhay program was Rs 97 cr then. None of the techs was ready then.
This is the mistake of reading fanboy fiction. Missiles should be able to use in every range. It can even be 100 km. That's also a success.
Nirbhay is a failure in many aspects. If they have gone with imported navigation and engine that may have not been the case. But with the increase in their technical maturity in subsystems they choose to go for 100% Indian. For that, the sub-sonic cruise missile program paid the price.
When a mission mode project fails then complain and cry because that was a project on the basis of matured technology. This project was definitely not.
Pakistanis define nationalism by delivering usable products to the military.
Here, our scientists define nationalism by calling it a product fully indigenous. Doesn't matter how long the military is suffering without the capability.
The only issue is that our teams are risk averse and do not want to change.
Instead of doing a single ITCM test, they should have had testfired 3-4 rounds in different trajectories. It will result in faster resolution of possible issues.
Say the fault which occured in recent test is figured out in 1 year and in 2024 we again test and fail in something? Then what ?
Anyways defence of a nation is the last place where noble values are needed. One provides what's needed by hook or by crook.
If we had some sort of efficiency meter, we would have found out quite a lot.
Do u have any documents to prove otherwise? I mean a document dated prior to 2014?
By this logic, Kaveri engine too should be a tech demonstrator.
Yeas, but not Nirbhay like missile. Its not meant to target 100 km sure.
Did Nirbhay matured for 1500 km range? Only one test for that range sofar and you think that its sufficient?
I wanna ask one more thing, did Nirbhay need only for 1500 & 650 km? Not meant for 1000 km? Why drdo didn't try for 1000 km?
Its good for defending DRDO.
So Brhamos, we have no contributions to it?
You made the claim, its easy to prove if you are correct.
Obviously, you make claims and opinions but don't have the patience or will to do due diligence.
Do you understand how logic works?
Oh it is if they want to.
They did already successfully with russian engine.
Don't vouch for the tweet but if it's true does this signify we're over the hump as far as STFE goes ?
Boast over things you have, not over things you could have.
Thing with brahmos is that it being mainly export oriented now, mind to market as we call it, they are making way too many statements. Would be good if Ng release is fast-tracked.
8 years to indigenize Zircon lol.
As far as our subsonic cruise missile project is concerned, DRDO could have just imported the Russian engine and called it a day. But "they took the path less travelled by, and that has made all the difference".
Finally we succeed
8 years to indigenize Zircon lol.
As far as our subsonic cruise missile project is concerned, DRDO could have just imported the Russian engine and called it a day. But "they took the path less travelled by, and that has made all the difference".
Finally we succeed
The Zircon is going to be made available to us post 2027-28. Count the development time from there on.
They actually do not give the materials, hence we have to develop those ourselves sometimes like Vikrant steel grade. Now for such steel grades it was easier, made here within 2-3 years as our steel industry is quite mature now. Otherwise for high end material, heat shield, sheath etc the gestation period for the materials could be anything from 5 years to 20 years. This is the minimum time you need to even prepare and produce & certify those mil grade material within the country. Then comes the volume part, defense use material, compared to other civilian/normal use material 1:10000 that is. So those materials very few vendors & plants will be interested to make those as cost too high, demand too low.8 years to indigenize Zircon lol.
Finally we succeed
Yes DRDO labs have got good maturity in making missiles & subsystems now, however for high end hypersonic regime certain factors are still tricky. A missile system usually have a lot of components, like main critical tech you need to fully develop, 10-11 different aspects like navigation, aerodynamics, control, simulation, propulsion, its power source, telemetry, communication, its FCS ground/air/sea launch, if it employs seeker or other guidance system, these you can research academically. Once theory is established, you need to test, for that again you need material, manufacturing, telemetry/tracking system because you are making something that will cut down enemy reaction time by shortening launch to strike time. So you need very good tracking algorithm & test developed because if we intend it to be untrackable by the enemy we ourselves will have hard time to track it in testing & verify. Then there is communication blackout for such systems at very high speed, very hard to establish simulation for that & get a solution.
So all this challenge, if we are to overcome all of it by ourselves it will take huge time (& money), so academic projects and co-study are done with experienced org like Vympel, NPO etc, those who have experience in developing test algo for such. Huge scope of future dual use application for every part of the process.
So all this challenge, if we are to overcome all of it by ourselves it will take huge time (& money), so academic projects and co-study are done with experienced org like Vympel, NPO etc, those who have experience in developing test algo for such. Huge scope of future dual use application for every part of the process.
Brahmos is a better missile than the Russian counterpart. So there is nothing like that downgraded export version, if you have money you will get the best, provided fake indigenous ego will not intervene.
So your logic is not working as you trying to advertising , where were the TD tantrum from 2014 to 2021? If it was a TD, DRDO would have declared it from the begining itself. Like swift,HSTDV of DRDO or RLVTD of ISRO.
Do you? Its you pointed out that low investment of money means its a TD, not me.
You wanna target installation 100 km farther with Nirbhay type cm, gold logic from an admin of a defence forum.
Show me the proof.
Different kinds of projects like TD existed as long as DRDO existed. Need to have common sense and comprehension ability to understand that.
Over the next 70 minutes, the missile navigated its way to 15 pre-designated "way points", using a sophisticated inertial navigation system, which can take assistance from the GPS satellite network. Halfway through the test, the Nirbhay did a pre-programmed U-turn and headed back to Chandipur. After travelling 1,050 km, the test was terminated and the missile splashed into the Bay of Bengal.
The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) says the missile was monitored throughout its flight, including by an air force aircraft that flew above it.
"The missile maintained an accuracy better than 10m throughout its path and covered a distance of more than 1,000 km. The successful indigenous development will fill a vital gap in the war-fighting capabilities of our armed forces," said DRDO chief Avinash Chander.
N-capable Nirbhay missile successfully test-fired
Success proves Nirbhay subsonic missile can strike 1,000 km into enemy territory
Success is a b@sta@rd & failure is an orphan, for seven long years it was Nirbhay, suddenly it became TD in 2021. U need common sense to learn this.Different kinds of projects like TD existed as long as DRDO existed. Need to have common sense and comprehension ability to understand that.
Over the next 70 minutes, the missile navigated its way to 15 pre-designated "way points", using a sophisticated inertial navigation system, which can take assistance from the GPS satellite network. Halfway through the test, the Nirbhay did a pre-programmed U-turn and headed back to Chandipur. After travelling 1,050 km, the test was terminated and the missile splashed into the Bay of Bengal.
The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) says the missile was monitored throughout its flight, including by an air force aircraft that flew above it.
"The missile maintained an accuracy better than 10m throughout its path and covered a distance of more than 1,000 km. The successful indigenous development will fill a vital gap in the war-fighting capabilities of our armed forces," said DRDO chief Avinash Chander.
N-capable Nirbhay missile successfully test-fired
Success proves Nirbhay subsonic missile can strike 1,000 km into enemy territorywww.business-standard.com
So it never tested for 1500 km yet?