British/Italian Tempest (GCAP) Fighter : News and Discussion
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The U.K.'s New Fighter Jet Has a Radar System That's Just Ridiculous
Tempest will capture a city's worth of data in one second.
Team Tempest Reveals a Different Approach to FCAS | AIN
The team tasked with engineering the UK’s FCAS are concentrating on technology and capability development ahead of finalizing platform design.
www.ainonline.com
That press release was meant for the consumption of the likes of you. And it did find it's target.Team Tempest Reveals a Different Approach to FCAS | AIN
The team tasked with engineering the UK’s FCAS are concentrating on technology and capability development ahead of finalizing platform design.
Let me clarify for your sake. That was an eloquent example of essay writing in sophisticated English ( as opposed to dumbed down) for - where are the finances? Till we get a few bones thrown out way, we've to put up appearances.
You bought it lock stock & barrel.
The U.K.'s New Fighter Jet Has a Radar System That's Just Ridiculous
Tempest will capture a city's worth of data in one second.us.yahoo.com
What it really means is Team Tempest is completely unprepared with the next gen technologies required. So the airframe design cannot be locked until the avionics build has been decided. Definitely gonna be delayed.
USA granted UK level 1 partner in F35 program because of its commitment to buy 138 aircrafts in addition to the contribution in R&D.
And if UK buys all the 138 aircraft over the next decade, there is 100% no possibility of any UK based demand for any next generation aircraft emerging. So this Tempest project ain't happening. The French-German project might yield something though.
And if UK buys all the 138 aircraft over the next decade, there is 100% no possibility of any UK based demand for any next generation aircraft emerging. So this Tempest project ain't happening. The French-German project might yield something though.
The sole european country that is able to fully master a modern jet is France.
We are only dealing with Germany and Spain for mass effect, to divide the cost, and to avoid a new US attempt to equip all europe with their jets.
They do have strong presence in Pakistan, goi is definitely not happy with that.
The F-35s only replace Tornados and adds to their new carrier capability. The Tempest is needed to replace the Typhoons.
The Brits want a two-aircraft fleet. Also, they plan to buy F-35s in the coming decade, and then the Tempest in the decade after that to replace the Typhoons.
They are already debating to reduce the F35 procurement below 90 aircrafts. And if that comes at a cost of investment for a non US stealth aircraft. That won't be liked by the US.
The UK will surely want a lot of things but realities are actually far away. They are not in any position to salvage more than 1 of the branches. Their land forces has already received their news. Now their air arm will be next. It seems that they want to save their navy the most. Their airforce and land force will become secondary support arms of their navy within a decade.
Why have you summoned me butthole?
If you regard a 4th generation canard as modern.
India will not join any foreign program. Honestly apart from the engine when it comes to the plane the French have a much better fifth gen program. Since Germany would be with the French scaf it will be a bigger export success than the tempest. Plus scaf also will have a naval variant. That isn't case with the tempest...
Let's be honest: Germany is more hindrance than help.
I'd even say that the best chance of the Tempest program is that Germany is not in the loop.
I'd even say that the best chance of the Tempest program is that Germany is not in the loop.
138 F-35 is already too much for them in the first place. The F-35 procurement gameplan is quite simple. Boost the promised numbers before the start of the program in order to indicate the seriousness of all the partners. Once the program gains momentum, reduce numbers to more realistic levels.
This is especially the case where partners are far away from actual battlegrounds, the borders of Russia and China. So countries closer to those borders, like Japan, Korea and Australia, are increasing their numbers while the opposite is happening amongst partners farther away, like UK and Italy. Everyone else is planning on operating an adequate number of F-35 so there's no need to reduce the numbers further.
By that logic, even the US numbers should eventually decrease, as the USAF has hinted that before since LM is unable to reduce the cost of operation. Which is probably why the USG is willing to sell the aircraft in the ME to shore up numbers.
The way things are going, the UK may finish their F-35B procurement quite early. They currently plan to get 42 jets before 2023, 6 more by 2025, leaving only 20 odd jets. Which means there's not going to be any major fighter jet procurement for 10 years after the last of the 48 F-35s enter service. I don't know how you believe the UK cannot afford an R&D program during that time.
Their air force still needs a replacement for the Typhoon. So they either import that or make it themselves. And they are unlikely to import all of their requirement, hence at least one development program will happen.
Also, R&D costs will be split amongst three countries, and Sweden is very serious about getting a replacement for their Gripens even if Italy is not. And even Sweden doesn't have any planned procurements for 10 years after their last Gripen E is in. The Tempest program is inevitable.