Dassault Rafale - Updates and Discussion
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In fact I know the architecture of the Rafale very well because when I was in charge of the ATL2 weapon system at Dassault, the IT architecture problems were much more critical for an aircraft with 13 crew members working together in real time and managing a much greater flow of data because of the power of the sensors and communications, than for the Rafale which only had one or two operators.
So the performance of the ATL2 system was judged to be brilliant and as a result I was asked to derive an architecture for the Rafale. So the person in the video is making assumptions, but he's got it all wrong.
First of all, in the same way that the Rafales are all very close to each other, whether in the Navy or the Air Force, we decided to put the same system in all the Rafales for industrial and maintenance reasons.
This is important because the Rafale has a nuclear mission in which it has to support an EMP, and this is achieved in part by increasing the use of fibre optics wherever possible.
So all the buses are fibre optic, even if the NATO standard requires otherwise. The only thing that matters to us is that we can connect NATO equipment to the bus, and that's something we know how to do.
To illustrate just how stupid his assumptions are, he thinks that you need F4.1 and a fibre link between Talios and the cockpit displays to be able to display Talios' high-quality images, whereas Talios is operational on F3R and F4.1 is just a software update with no hardware modifications.
Even if he were right, he himself says that there is at least one fibre optic bus in the Rafale, and if a fibre is installed and there's a need to increase its speed, all you have to do is change the couplers and install those that meet the new standard, because the fibre isn't of any standard, so there's no risk of it exploding because you want to transmit too much information.
If it wasn't for the US cutting Russia out of the market through CAATSA sanctions. The Rafale production would only be for the French. If you aren't buying US. You only have the Eurofighter and Rafale. Unless you want CAATSA sanctions
The only thing good about the Rafale is its public relations sales team. It's not the 1960-80's obsolete tech.
Pic's version of selling the bird. F1 is the best, followed by, it wasn't that good but F2 is the best, etc now to F4.1, still the same story. A tarted-up Mirage, with a new name.
While in reality, this is pic defending the Rafale ....
The only thing good about the Rafale is its public relations sales team. It's not the 1960-80's obsolete tech.
Pic's version of selling the bird. F1 is the best, followed by, it wasn't that good but F2 is the best, etc now to F4.1, still the same story. A tarted-up Mirage, with a new name.
While in reality, this is pic defending the Rafale ....
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If it wasn't for Uncle Sam's pressure and hegemony, no nation would ever buy "fat amy" aka F-35. Fact, mate!
Then why have several countries begged for the F-35 and were rejected? Fact, mate!
The CAATSA law was enacted in 2017 at a time when the Rafale had already been exported to Egypt, Qatar and India but @Optimist likes to rewrite history.
Because of its overrated stealth and SA.
Does the Rafale also have digital stealth capability like the EFT? It is claimed "to be able to digitally hide its signature, becoming invisible to radar".
www.eurofighter.com
Eurofighter Typhoon: Digital Stealth | Eurofighter Typhoon
www.eurofighter.com
It's a capability that the French have been developing for the Rafale for years and which is operational and has been improved with each new standard. As long as the Anglo-Saxons didn't have an equivalent, they said that we were talking nonsense and that what we were saying was impossible, and now they are presenting themselves as being brilliant for being able to offer it.Does the Rafale also have digital stealth capability like the EFT? It is claimed "to be able to digitally hide its signature, becoming invisible to radar".
Eurofighter Typhoon: Digital Stealth | Eurofighter Typhoon
Rafale is the master of Electronic Stealth. Eurofighter is just playing catch-upDoes the Rafale also have digital stealth capability like the EFT? It is claimed "to be able to digitally hide its signature, becoming invisible to radar".
Eurofighter Typhoon: Digital Stealth | Eurofighter Typhoon
Dassault cannot make any official statement on these characteristics because they have been classified by the French government, but they are presented to the various Dassault prospects after signing a confidentiality agreement. In fact, Dassault's communication in the media is very weak compared with that of its competitors.
I'm surprised none of the french posted this I wonder why...
Two Rafale fighter jets collided in midair before crashing to the ground in northeastern France on Wednesday, August 134, civil and military authorities said. "One of the pilots was found safe and sound," Defense Minister Sébastien Lecornu said in a post on X.
The French Air Force told Le Monde that two pilots were in one plane and one in the other. The pilot who was alone was the one found. A search for the crew of the other jet was underway.
It was not immediately clear what caused the collision that authorities said occurred over Colombey-les-Belles, a town in northeastern France. "The military authorities will report on the causes of the accident," said the local prefecture.
The two jets were from the Rafale Transition Squadron 3/4 Aquitaine based at Saint-Dizier air base, said Lecornu. In a statement, the Air Force said the squadron's main mission is the training of pilots and navigators for the French military. It said the two planes that collided were returning from a mission in Germany.
www.lemonde.fr
Two French Rafale fighters collide in eastern France
Two Rafale fighter jets collided in midair before crashing to the ground in northeastern France on Wednesday, August 134, civil and military authorities said. "One of the pilots was found safe and sound," Defense Minister Sébastien Lecornu said in a post on X.
The French Air Force told Le Monde that two pilots were in one plane and one in the other. The pilot who was alone was the one found. A search for the crew of the other jet was underway.
It was not immediately clear what caused the collision that authorities said occurred over Colombey-les-Belles, a town in northeastern France. "The military authorities will report on the causes of the accident," said the local prefecture.
The two jets were from the Rafale Transition Squadron 3/4 Aquitaine based at Saint-Dizier air base, said Lecornu. In a statement, the Air Force said the squadron's main mission is the training of pilots and navigators for the French military. It said the two planes that collided were returning from a mission in Germany.
Two French Rafale fighters collide in eastern France
One pilot was found, while a search was underway for the two crew members aboard the other jet.
www.lemonde.fr
Of course not. It's all just a fact-less, if not outright deception, sales & PR exercise. The same goes for Gripen. If only the aircraft were as good as their Public Relations hype.
I haven't looked at what they are actually claiming. So far it's all just EW, called by another name.
Of course the stealth fighters also have EW, so in any situation the stealth aircraft would have the advantage of both.
Europe is late to the party. The US had the F117 in 1980
Of course the stealth fighters also have EW, so in any situation the stealth aircraft would have the advantage of both.
Europe is late to the party. The US had the F117 in 1980
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Captain Sébastien Mabire and Lieutenant Matthis Laurens died in the crash involving two military aircraft on Wednesday 14 August in Meurthe-et-Moselle, Emmanuel Macron announced late this evening on X, formerly Twitter.
Condolences to the families.
There was another 2 X rafale aircraft crash not long ago. Luckily there were no deaths.
It's hard to promote the situation awareness of the rafale, when they keep crashing into each other.
There was another 2 X rafale aircraft crash not long ago. Luckily there were no deaths.
It's hard to promote the situation awareness of the rafale, when they keep crashing into each other.