Eurofighter Typhoon - Updates and Discussions
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Captor-E made its first development flight in 2007. The demonstrator program has been going on since 2002.
And as usual, you fail in trying to hide your clueless by running into more nonsense claims. A TD programme is obviously not the same a a serial production. If you would know even the basics of the EF, you would know that there was no order for AESA equipped fighters until Kuwait ordered it, because the partner countries split the T3 order and cancelled the second part that was suppose to get AESA. That's why actual flight testing of the Captor E with swashplate began only after the Kuwaiti order, contrary to the fixed TD AESA, that was showed to India during trials.
That's because the TD radar was supposed to be a TD only and a new radar was supposed to be developed for the consortium. India was supposed to get the TD junk called Radar 1.
But the so-called Radar 1+ is no different from the original Captor-E from the TD program. So nothing's changed since then. It's the same Captor-M back-end with a new AESA front-end. In 2021, the Typhoon will be flying a radar that the French have had since 2012 or the Americans since 2005.
It's the same way you used it. Tranche 3 was designed with extra cooling in advance, that's why Captor-E is only going on Tranche 3 aircraft. So the heating issue is complete BS.
Who knows. The RAF is going it alone for their version, no other country is getting it. What the other lot get is up to them and their purse strings.
A totally new radar take 10 years of developpment.Let's not forget that you have no clue what you are talking about as always. The AESA got preliminary development funding in 2014, the first order for EFs with AESA came only in 2016, with planned delivery for 2019/20. But then again, ramdom talks.
Thales, thanks to the PESA experience was able to cut the development time of AESA, because most part of the sof can be re used.
RBE2 was initially studied from 1981 to 1988, under the PESA form.
RBE2AA was studied from 2004 to... ?
RBE2AESA was funded i 2006 for an operationnal entry in 2013.
So SELEX would be able to studied from nearly a clean sheet an AESA radar in 3 to 6 years when it takes 9 years (2004 to 2013) for THALES to do so with the PESA know how....
SELEX hasn't the feed back of Thales in PESA/AESA. So 2019/2020 delivery seems very optimistic.
Spain? Maybe for navy, because it's the only solution. For air force no need that SCAF can't adress.
Germany? Far from beiing made.
Remain Italy and GB. They already have cut the numbers.
That's not True, the UK plans to operate them until 2040 and does have an upgrade program. But Germany doesn't care about any of its air force in general and Italy and Spain are broke. The future Franco-German partnership will be interesting to watch unfold (come-apart at the seams).
Its easier for 1to jot down their inference and leave it at that ...
As time goes , we can verify how much one was accurate with their inference.
Why would some country try to sell off their tranche 1 EFT ?
Why would Germany have most of tj3 fleet grounded ?
Is there any air cooled Aesa planned for tranche 1&2 ? If liquid cooling is difficult.
As time goes , we can verify how much one was accurate with their inference.
Why would some country try to sell off their tranche 1 EFT ?
Why would Germany have most of tj3 fleet grounded ?
Is there any air cooled Aesa planned for tranche 1&2 ? If liquid cooling is difficult.
Germany and Spain are actually the only partners that might buy more EFs now. Germany might split the Tornado replacement into EF and a small number of F35, specifically for the nuclear role. Spain wants to replace the F18 Hornets and considers new EFs too. I only wished they would join the British upgrade programme, rather than making an independent one.
T1s were limited to A2A roles and have not the full upgrade potential. That's why the partners want to sell them as 2nd hand fighters, with little success though.
Germanys biggest problem, is to properly fund it's forces. Low funding => low spare supply => more maintenance issues
T2s will be upgraded with the P3E and later also P4E capabilities.
Well we are the enemy now that we've left Europe of course. What nuclear role does Germany have?
Not the enemy, but the uncle nobody wants to have contact anymore, but can't avoid at family gatherings. Same as Belgium or Netherlands, providing a fighter platform for US B61 nuclear bombs, in case no US fighter is available. Currently a few Tornados are customized for that and Germany considers F35, F15, F18 for that, next to EF, if the US approves integration to it.
US nukes are delivered from US fighters based in Germany.
Same as Belgium or Netherlands, providing a fighter platform for US B61 nuclear bombs, in case no US fighter is available. Currently a few Tornados are customized for that and Germany considers F35, F15, F18 for that, next to EF, if the US approves integration to it.
They most likely will, but this is a security feature for Europe, in case that for some reason no US fighters are available and these nukes are based at a Luftwaffe Airbase.
The last nukes in Germany | DW | 05.08.2015