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India boosts submarine fleet as region’s warship traffic picks up

India is working on a new class of attack submarines after the government approved almost $5 billion for the program.
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India and Japan signed MoU for co-development of UNICORN mast.

 
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India and Japan signed MoU for co-development of UNICORN mast.

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What is MoI?
 

Italian 'Black Shark' back in contest for navy's torpedo need​


Italian 'Black Shark' torpedo, which courted controversy more than a decade ago after it came under allegations of corruption and irregularities, is back in contention for an Indian Navy requirement of heavy weight torpedoes for the Kalvari class submarines.

Manufactured by Leonardo, erstwhile Finmeccanica, the torpedo is being considered for the requirement of 48 heavyweight torpedoes after the Italian company was taken off the blacklist. Other options for the estimated ₹3,000 crore contract are from Germany and France.

The Navy has been seeking to acquire new HWTs for over a decade now. The last bid was a competition between a German and a French torpedo for the requirement, with the French F21 coming out to be technically compliant and the lowest bidder. However, the contract could not reach the signing stage.

The defence ministry subsequently approved a two-pronged plan - acquisition of a limited quantity of 48 torpedoes to meet immediate requirements from a foreign vendor and a Make in India plan for the larger requirement. Defence Research and Development Organisation could take a lead role on the indigenous project by roping in a private partner.

The Black Shark was the frontrunner for a requirement of 98 torpedoes in 2008-09. However, the project was dropped in 2013 and the case was referred to the Central Bureau of Investigation by the defence ministry.
 
 
There is acceptance of necessity for 31 more powerful warships and submarines


31 ships according to me:

1. Project 75I class SSK = 06
2. Next Generation Corvette = 08
3. Additional Kalvari class SSK = 03
4. P-17B class FFG = 07
5. Next Generation Survey Vessels = 05
6. Multi Purpose Vessels = 02
 
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Fatalis said:
There is acceptance of necessity for 31 more powerful warships and submarines


31 ships according to me:

1. Project 75I class SSK = 06
2. Next Generation Corvette = 08
3. Additional Kalvari class SSK = 03
4. P-17B class FFG = 07
5. Next Generation Survey Vessels = 05
6. Multi Purpose Vessels = 02
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Did you do a breakup of the number of ships on order
 
aditya g said:
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Numbers are not rounding up for me. It is exceeding 63

Ships which are under construction:

1. Samarthak class MPV = 02
2. Kalvari class SSK = 01
3. Visakhapatnam class DDG = 01
4. Nilgiri class FFG = 07
5. Talwar class FFG = 04
6. Mahe class ASWSWC = 08
7. Arnala class ASWSWC = 08
8. Sandhyak class SVL = 03
9. Nistar class DSV = 02
10. Diving Support Craft = 05
11. Fleet Support Ship = 05
12. Cadet Training Ship = 03
13. Next Generation OPV = 11
14. Next Generation Missile Vessel = 06
Total = 66

I have excluded the 02 P77 class SSNs.
 
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Fatalis said:
Numbers are not rounding up for me. It is exceeding 63

Ships which are under construction:

1. Samarthak class MPV = 02
2. Kalvari class SSK = 01
3. Visakhapatnam class DDG = 01
4. Nilgiri class FFG = 07
5. Talwar class FFG = 04
6. Mahe class ASWSWC = 08
7. Arnala class ASWSWC = 08
8. Sandhyak class SVL = 03
9. Nistar class DSV = 02
10. Diving Support Craft = 05
11. Fleet Support Ship = 05
12. Cadet Training Ship = 03
13. Next Generation OPV = 11
14. Next Generation Missile Vessel = 06
Total = 66

I have excluded the 02 P77 class SSNs.
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From 66,
subtract 05 DSC (minor vessels)
subtract 01 SVL (only 2 left)
add 02 P77
add 01 ARS

66 - 5 - 1 +2 + 1 = 63

Navy never counts or reveals the following classes:

- SSNs meant to be taken on lease from Russia
- SSBNs
- Tugs, Barges and other auxilliaries

Edit - On second thoughts, I see the CNS has counted 1 submarine + 62 ships. So the figure of 62 does not include the 2 SSNs.
Let me recheck.
 
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Here is a chart of Indian Navy order book for last 2 years. I had to fill in the blanks with assumed figures so it is not very accurate.

However the purpose is to illustrate a trend. For long time we had 40-ish ships on order, which dipped 37 ships at its lowest point in July 2022. After than a Modi gormint just went into order mode leading to the highest of 67 ship on order.

The trend is set to continue with Navy systematically working through its AON list. The main hard rocks to overcome are IAC-2, P-75I, MCMV and LPD.

P-75I seems to have a faint light at end of tunnel
IAC-2 files will be moved once IN bags the 26 Rafale order
MCMV and LPD is as distant as ever


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aditya g said:
Here is a chart of Indian Navy order book for last 2 years. I had to fill in the blanks with assumed figures so it is not very accurate.

However the purpose is to illustrate a trend. For long time we had 40-ish ships on order, which dipped 37 ships at its lowest point in July 2022. After than a Modi gormint just went into order mode leading to the highest of 67 ship on order.

The trend is set to continue with Navy systematically working through its AON list. The main hard rocks to overcome are IAC-2, P-75I, MCMV and LPD.

P-75I seems to have a faint light at end of tunnel
IAC-2 files will be moved once IN bags the 26 Rafale order
MCMV and LPD is as distant as ever


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One thing that we have improved heavily is auxiliary fleet. From DSRV to survey vessel, every capability is increasing.

Serious shortcomings persist around mine countermeasures (MCV), lack of modern torpedoes and amphibious ships.
 
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