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I doubt denuking is even an option, too risky endeavor considering the political scenario this year. Over time heard gossips on this forum about its available options though.
Then whatever options the current GoI will exercise will be based on the principal of incremental gains . Nothing spectacular or of note will be in the offing .Which will solve a few problems and create additional ones .

Of course , having said that , Modi being what he is , will milk his achievements however incremental it is like the surgical strikes , dry for whatever it's worth .

But let's wait and see. Time will reveal what's in store for our part of the world .
 
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I doubt denuking is even an option, too risky endeavor considering the political scenario this year. Over time heard gossips on this forum about its available options though.
When oil runs out, economy will also go down. In that time, there will be nothing called losses as there will be little left to lose. Nukes or anything else doesn't matter at all. With all industry shut or running for only military purpose, people eating bare food and most people employed in military sector, the ordinary economic activity will be down. Denuking attempt now is very dangerous and is uncalled for considering that oil will reach critical levels by 2030 and then deplete completely by 2045-2050.

Today's entire industrialisation relies on oil supply. Industrial raw materials and produce needs transport, agriculture needs tractors, fertiliser, pesticide, electrical and electronic items like PVC, OLED, Bakelite, motherboard and sensor, paint needs ether and acrylic acid, plastics need ethene from oil, cloth dyes need organic compounds, thermocoal needs oil and so on. So, the real threat is oil depletion, not nukes. Nukes are much less severe threat than oil.
 
When oil runs out, economy will also go down. In that time, there will be nothing called losses as there will be little left to lose. Nukes or anything else doesn't matter at all. With all industry shut or running for only military purpose, people eating bare food and most people employed in military sector, the ordinary economic activity will be down. Denuking attempt now is very dangerous and is uncalled for considering that oil will reach critical levels by 2030 and then deplete completely by 2045-2050.

Today's entire industrialisation relies on oil supply. Industrial raw materials and produce needs transport, agriculture needs tractors, fertiliser, pesticide, electrical and electronic items like PVC, OLED, Bakelite, motherboard and sensor, paint needs ether and acrylic acid, plastics need ethene from oil, cloth dyes need organic compounds, thermocoal needs oil and so on. So, the real threat is oil depletion, not nukes. Nukes are much less severe threat than oil.
Lol you have high expectations on our neighbor. They wouldn’t last that long. A mere 2600 protesters shut down the country for almost a month. Imagine what would loosing a piece of POK would do to them. Religion would kill them before oil.
 
But where did I claim I'm an expert on these topics ? As far as pomposity goes , nobody can , has or will accuse you of false modesty .

But don't you know, hamaare Joe Sahib is an expert in being an expert. You bloody, dastardly, foolish, pernicious, moronic, chicanery filled little buffoon (and other similar wordy Classic English insults for purpose of appearing intelligent, cultured and educated).
 
But don't you know, hamaare Joe Sahib is an expert in being an expert. You bloody, dastardly, foolish, pernicious, moronic, chicanery filled little buffoon (and other similar wordy Classic English insults for purpose of appearing intelligent, cultured and educated).
Oh , he's a complete vulgarian . No two opinions about it. Didn't you notice the Hindi colloquialism he used for me ??

All you need to do is tease the mask he dons a bit and the Khidderpore- Metiaburz in him comes rushing out in torrents .

Poor chap. Must be terribly frustrating to learn in the evening of his life that he's not achieved much and whatever he has doesn't amount to anything of significance . Notice how he parades his erudition , knowledge , work experience ,etc desperately seeking validation from rank strangers . How pathetic can that be !!
 
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Oh , he's a vulgarian . No two opinions about it. Didn't you notice the Hindi colloquialism he used for me ??

All you need to do is tease the mask he dons a bit and the Khidderpore- Metiaburz in him comes rushing out in torrents .

Poor chap. Must be terribly frustrating to learn in the evening of his life that he's not achieved much and whatever he has doesn't amount to anything of significance . Notice how he parades his erudition , knowledge , work experience ,etc desperately seeking validation from rank strangers . How pathetic can that be !!

Spot on analysis, just haven't figured out yet whether it's the frustration or the senility that causes the extreme irritability. Perhaps a mix of both, and either way a cautionary tale for younger people.
 
Gents, this thread is about aircraft.

@Ashwin @Aashish

And this blog is meant for civil, higher level discourse. Not constant condescension and derision towards all others and strategic support to ideologically aligned trolls while simultaneously preaching and morally grandstanding about the quality of the blog and discourse. Tolerance for senile hypocrisy has its limits, and more than enough respect and patience has been showed.

It's time somebody got an attitude adjustment.
 
LMFAO, more like menopause at this age. Truly reminds me of those bitter, nagging old hags. The kind who aren't happy so make sure nobody else is either.

Ok.Let us not derail the thread further . More importantly , let's not keep remembering him and give him hiccups all night . He'd get up , switch his laptop on and vent his frustration on some poor chap in some forum.
 
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Ppl here came up with different theories which all made sense but this is my theory and could sound like a conspiracy.
When Arighat was launched in a news article a sentence caught my interest that Arighat was being launched to clear space for next two SSBNs.
Now consider this.
1) SBC has enough space to build two submarines.
2) Arihant was launched in 2009 and the news was out that the second one is under construction.
3) only a fool would believe, if anyone says it takes 8 years to build a copy of Arihant (ie Arighat) that by itself was build in 7 years.
4) If SBC had enough space to accommodate two submarines and Arighat was one then it can accommodate No.2 also right? At a time when we don’t have enough space to build warships would IN keep a dock empty? If it’s not empty what was occupying it?
5) A quote is published in the news that Arighat is being launched to accommodate next two SSBNs. And ther was a gossip among forums that another submarine was already floating around the same time.
I got some news about enough steel being produced for more subs years ago. Very reliable.

Now put everything together.
Arihant And Arighat were sister ships in the first batch of submarines launched way before last year considering the gossip of the second sub floating around before 2017 in point 5.
Aridhaman Could be the first one in the second batch produced and the one that was launched 2months ago and its sister ship could be the 4th that is being launched in the next 18 months. And it would clear space for for the next batch. And all this considering SBC can accommodate only 2. I could me totally wrong but it’s my theory.

Disclaimer - I’m dislexic have hard time writing so I generally stick to 1-2 sentence answers, pls bare my grammar.

Thanks for replying.

Let’s try to answer few more questions.

Is there any data to backup there were 2 boats under construction? Like say increased level to manufacturing in any of the other vendors? It’s modular construction. You need to bring in other items to put it together.

Let’s say 3. There was no leaks or news about launch, trials nothing.

Fine. No one will give out any of the information and I can concede saying “ I am asking for impossible”

Answer this. India is in a precarious position. It looks like India is loosing and weak all around. What good does it do by hiding that it has credible deterrent floating around. Remeber, one of the hallmark of BJP clan is being hawkish. If INC, I can see them being quiet. Not BJP.

An SSBN is a credible second strike platform. There is nothing to hide there. Lots to gain by atleast “leaking” the info.

I still believe, People are just imaging way too many things here.
 
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Thank you so much @Parikrama for these insightful priceless nuggets.

My own guess is it could be a major simultaneous multi site aerial strike at the training camps and staging camps across the loc using Heron TP's (I am assuming a few would be with the IAF by then.) or using the Brahmos - thereby calling a bluff to Pakistan's of repeated claims of retaliation under a nuclear back drop.
 
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Lockheed proposes making custom-built fighter jets in India

American aerospace and defence major Lockheed Martin has proposed to manufacture custom-built F-35 fighter jets in India, which its officials say will give Indian industry a unique opportunity to become part of the world's largest fighter aircraft ecosystem.​
"We plan to introduce two new words into the lexicon of international fighter aircraft manufacturing: 'India' and 'exclusive'," Vivek Lall, vice president, strategy and business development, at Lockheed Martin Aeronautics told PTI in an interview.​
"India-specific state-of-the-art fighter production in India will be exclusive, something that has never before been presented by any other fighter aircraft manufacturer, past or present. There will also be a significant export market available for Indian-made fighters," he said.​
Lall, an Indian American who last year was instrumental in the decision of the Trump administration to sell top-of- the-line unarmed drones from General Atomics, in his previous capacity.​
Noting that the India-specific fighter on offer and its programme's size, scope and success will enable Indian industry to take advantage of unprecedented manufacturing, upgrade and sustainment opportunities well into the future, Lall said the platform will give Indian industry a unique opportunity to become a part of the world's largest fighter aircraft ecosystem.​
"We intend to create far more than an "assembly line" in India," he said.​
Lall claimed no other advanced fourth generation platform even comes close to matching the record of real-world combat experience and proven operational effectiveness.​
"The fighter being offered specifically to India is uniquely the best state-of-the-art fighter," he said adding that all three variants of the F-35 are single-engine aircraft.​
Many of the systems used on the India-specific platform are derived from key lessons learned and technologies from Lockheed Martin's F-22 and the F-35, the world's only operational fifth generation fighters, he said.​
Northrop Grumman's advanced APG-83 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar on the F-16 Block 70 provides F-16s with fifth generation fighter radar capabilities by leveraging hardware and software commonality with F-22 and F-35 AESA radars, he added.​
The APG-83 radar shares more than 95 per cent software commonality with the F-35 radar and more than 70 per cent hardware commonality.​
Lall said the F-16 provides the path to business relationships with Lockheed Martin, the only company in the world that has designed, developed and produced operational fifth generation fighter aircraft.​
Technology improvements will also continue to flow between the F-16, F-22 and F-35 for decades, at a fraction of the cost to F-16 operators, he said.​
The platform being offered provides unmatched opportunities for Indian companies of all sizes, including micro, small & medium enterprises (MSMEs) and suppliers throughout India, to establish new business relationships with Lockheed Martin and other industry leaders in the US and around the globe, Lall said giving an insight into the offer being made by his company.​
Asserting that approximately half of the Indian fighter supply chain will be common with the fifth generation F-22 and F-35, Lall said the aircraft brings the most modern avionics, a proven AESA radar, modernised cockpit, advanced weapons, longer range with conformal fuel tanks, auto ground collision avoidance capability, and an advanced engine with an extended service life.​
Even with the addition of targeting systems and two 2,000 pound (lb) class Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAMs), the aircraft has a mission radius exceeding 1,300 kms -- 30 per cent greater than that of its closest competitor, he said.​
"Many of the advances in systems on the aircraft India would get draw directly from key lessons learned from Lockheed Martin's work on the F-22 and the F-35," he said.​
"The AESA radar is the result of over two decades of investment, use and experience with AESA technology, and it's fully operational today," Lall said.​
 
Lockheed proposes making custom-built fighter jets in India

American aerospace and defence major Lockheed Martin has proposed to manufacture custom-built F-35 fighter jets in India, which its officials say will give Indian industry a unique opportunity to become part of the world's largest fighter aircraft ecosystem.​
"We plan to introduce two new words into the lexicon of international fighter aircraft manufacturing: 'India' and 'exclusive'," Vivek Lall, vice president, strategy and business development, at Lockheed Martin Aeronautics told PTI in an interview.​
"India-specific state-of-the-art fighter production in India will be exclusive, something that has never before been presented by any other fighter aircraft manufacturer, past or present. There will also be a significant export market available for Indian-made fighters," he said.​
Lall, an Indian American who last year was instrumental in the decision of the Trump administration to sell top-of- the-line unarmed drones from General Atomics, in his previous capacity.​
Noting that the India-specific fighter on offer and its programme's size, scope and success will enable Indian industry to take advantage of unprecedented manufacturing, upgrade and sustainment opportunities well into the future, Lall said the platform will give Indian industry a unique opportunity to become a part of the world's largest fighter aircraft ecosystem.​
"We intend to create far more than an "assembly line" in India," he said.​
Lall claimed no other advanced fourth generation platform even comes close to matching the record of real-world combat experience and proven operational effectiveness.​
"The fighter being offered specifically to India is uniquely the best state-of-the-art fighter," he said adding that all three variants of the F-35 are single-engine aircraft.​
Many of the systems used on the India-specific platform are derived from key lessons learned and technologies from Lockheed Martin's F-22 and the F-35, the world's only operational fifth generation fighters, he said.​
Northrop Grumman's advanced APG-83 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar on the F-16 Block 70 provides F-16s with fifth generation fighter radar capabilities by leveraging hardware and software commonality with F-22 and F-35 AESA radars, he added.​
The APG-83 radar shares more than 95 per cent software commonality with the F-35 radar and more than 70 per cent hardware commonality.​
Lall said the F-16 provides the path to business relationships with Lockheed Martin, the only company in the world that has designed, developed and produced operational fifth generation fighter aircraft.​
Technology improvements will also continue to flow between the F-16, F-22 and F-35 for decades, at a fraction of the cost to F-16 operators, he said.​
The platform being offered provides unmatched opportunities for Indian companies of all sizes, including micro, small & medium enterprises (MSMEs) and suppliers throughout India, to establish new business relationships with Lockheed Martin and other industry leaders in the US and around the globe, Lall said giving an insight into the offer being made by his company.​
Asserting that approximately half of the Indian fighter supply chain will be common with the fifth generation F-22 and F-35, Lall said the aircraft brings the most modern avionics, a proven AESA radar, modernised cockpit, advanced weapons, longer range with conformal fuel tanks, auto ground collision avoidance capability, and an advanced engine with an extended service life.​
Even with the addition of targeting systems and two 2,000 pound (lb) class Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAMs), the aircraft has a mission radius exceeding 1,300 kms -- 30 per cent greater than that of its closest competitor, he said.​
"Many of the advances in systems on the aircraft India would get draw directly from key lessons learned from Lockheed Martin's work on the F-22 and the F-35," he said.​
"The AESA radar is the result of over two decades of investment, use and experience with AESA technology, and it's fully operational today," Lall said.​

This article is talking about a custom built F-16, not F-35.
 
Lall claimed no other advanced fourth generation platform even comes close to matching the record of real-world combat experience and proven operational effectiveness.
Technology improvements will also continue to flow between the F-16, F-22 and F-35 for decades, at a fraction of the cost to F-16 operators, he said
American aerospace and defence major Lockheed Martin has proposed to manufacture custom-built F-35 fighter jets in India, which its officials say will give Indian industry a unique opportunity to become part of the world's largest fighter aircraft ecosystem.

Why is there a clash between the statements within the article? Also, is F35 even completed for USA's purpose itself?
 
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