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also - one thing that went under the radar..
A lot of cleansing is happening in Kashmir in this cloak of "replying to Pak"..Mehbooba Mufti was crying about the ban on Jameet e Islami but no one even knew that news..

What happened to those moved away separatist s ?
What happened to Supreme court hearing ?
 

You dumb *censored*s can’t think beyond votes can you? This is not about votes. The country is behind the gvt to fight terror. Every bloody thing seems with an eye on votes. You guys more than others give credence to Pakistani claims about this being a political strike.

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This is one best messages i wanted to tell people who talks politics now.
 
Sometimes sensitive things are written/hinted at or partially declassified much later on. Do you think that could happen at some point in the future with the op you're talking about?

Like always you've seriously piqued my interest and left me hanging.



This one is unlikely to be declassified. Look up some incident in Kashmir 25 years back which had potential to blow up. Beyond that, cant say anything.
 
What happened to those moved away separatist s ?
What happened to Supreme court hearing ?
the separatists that were moved away - no one bothered - the liberals were too focussed on the attacks

and the supreme court hearing - 35 a is delayed.. dont know the new date..
 
They have lied through their teeth even this time too..

1. F-16 has not been used / no American weapons used.
2. Two then three pilots landed in PoJ&K.

But then our government has been too little on any statements too :
1. No indication of damage caused by bombs.
2. No indication of which plane was shot. I doubt there is an official statement on type of Pakistani aircraft been shot.


Indication has been given about F-16.

Why should we claim anything officially? The paradox lies, as earlier mentioned, in putting out evidence which our neighbour would anyways deny and call fabricated.

The real evidence in front of us is:

1. We took what we publicly declared as an anti-terror operation. They undertook an action that was military in nature and in response to our anti-terror operation while admitting being in touch with JeM.

2. They have shifted their statements more quickly than one can say shift. And they have been caught denying just like the Iraqi Minister who denied any US forces had entered Baghdad just as one M1 was seen entering the road in backdrop.

Does an Indian need anything beyond this? Why this 'urge' of Indian posters to head to PDF and try and 'win' an argument, when everyone and their dog knows what actually has happened:

1. Pakistan declared openly that should India use airforce in J&K, they (ie India) should know that they are a nuclear power.

2. Economically, they are now under tremendous pressure as funds will not be as forthcoming and diplomatically, they have been told to fend for themselves should India choose to escalate.
 
Its actually rather simple. Indians --mostly-- would rather hear from our own forces than from enemies. But both forces and government has been silent and leaving it to the Pakistani to set the narrative. Nature hates vacuum. Its like when parents don't tell kids about some facts, the neighbors tell them distorted facts or facts mixed with lies or plain lies.

And look what benefits they accrued? Found digging holes of lies for themselves one after the other. Why do we need to reveal our own capabilities in terms of Intelligence and Surveillance when the operations have merely begun? And I would urge you all to note that ELINT and SIGINT were not the only assets used.


BTW, do you believe that this round is over now?

Not by a long shot.
 
But for how long. How long can we maintain this tempo of military readiness on the front lines? Won't that eat into our budget? Won't the army eventually go back into the barracks? Wouldn't it wear out the airforces spares and reduce their availability? once the military goes back terror attacks would again increase.

Actually no.

No strike corps have been mobilized. The elements from these formations who have gone, have gone for their routine summer training exercises, which is usually termed as Area Familiarization/Orientation (not giving precise term) which every unit has to undertake every year to remain current.

The troops actually in forward locations are the routine Pivot Corps troops merely on a heightened state of readiness. No leaves have been canceled, no recall ordered. That is the concept of Cold Start. We can start without any orders right now.

As for LC, there is an increased tempo of operations and use of ammunition, we have ample of that ammunition and more churning out as we speak. That was always factored in.

Without even moving additional troops, they have moved tremendous amounts of troops. And need to maintain a certain frequency of sorties every time we put up few fighters in air in depth too ;)

On Maritime front, their small navy is hard pressed to remain vigilant while we can keep rotating platforms and continue our maintenance and replenishment while they will have to actually suffer on those fronts everytime our fleet decides to move northwards :D
 
This one is unlikely to be declassified. Look up some incident in Kashmir 25 years back which had potential to blow up. Beyond that, cant say anything.

The kidnapping of white tourists in Kashmir? And attempt was made to free Azhar from prison by taking European hostages.

IA killed the hostage takers, but the hostages were killed by someone else anyway.
 
Have been saying the same thing again and again. You can undermine their preparedness by maintaining the tempo of 'operations' right now. Why lose assets to degrade capability when the same can be achieved without engaging them?
March is east to win in west...
Folks need to read Chinese stratagems.
 
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