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We are historically, culturally and religiously connected to kashmiri people and feel their pain.
Oh well. You could have said the same to Bengali as well when you were formed. What happened?
Besides, how many people in Punjab speak Kashmiri?
Oh, how many follow the same customs as Kashmiri?
And about religion, India has roughly a very similar number of Muslims.

Here is a hint : The connection etc etc etc is merely a pretext. We know Pakistan wants to ensure its water supply by attacking Indian soil, indirectly. Our forces will ensure that will never happen.
 
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Attacking civilians does not achieve military objectives. What you should be proposing is attacking Pakistani military targets instead. Those are far more important. The Pakistanis tried to do that a few days ago and failed.
No sir. You don't attack just any civilians. You attack those civilians/army folks that matter to movers and shakers of ISI and PA. Simple.
 
We are historically, culturally and religiously connected to kashmiri people and feel their pain.
If Indian armed forces shoot them with pallet guns, blinding them for life, and then think nobody in Pakistan will get angry on that, then India is wrong.
It's been 70 years India has hundreds of thousands of Military personnel in Kashmir and fights Pakistan on almost daily basis. But our support for Kashmiri people is ongoing and hasn't stopped.
Put it this way, if a Hindu girl gets abducted in Pakistan, then far more indians protest than Pakistanis. Because you share religion, culture and many things with them. Same are kashmiri people for us.

If you want Kashmir , fight an open war for it

This Extremism and Terrorism has Only
Hurt Kashmiri people

Their lives have become miserable

You are selling a dream to Kashmiri people that you will conquer Kashmir and come to their rescue

But it is not happening
 
Interesting. Please note this guys psy ops. Is he something or is he something?

Where does your sympathy vanish when you brutalise Balochis? Where does your sympathy vanish when you bomb FATA with mortars, artillery, helicopter gunships & FA? Since your co religionists are in Iran & Afghanistan too, how come you support terrorists against them? Finally your co religionists also exist in Xinjiang. Why doesn't your heart bleed for them?

How come your heart bleeds only for Kashmiris?

Doesn't have ANY principle or position. Comes up with self serving rants all the time. Makes rules up. Makes facts up. Hypocrisy is his middle name. Self awareness he treats like bacon.


When u show his terrorism he talks about his "cultural bond" with Kashmiris, because LOGIC is Ibliss child. BC such bullshit only belongs to his madrassa. Not here.
 
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We won't do that either. We have no need to.
Oh I know I know. I do know that will never happen. We are quite a bit principled folks.
I have learnt it the hard way in my little schooling in India.
We have absolute principles -- no matter how divorced from reality they may be. There is a reason why Pakistan is able to fly their jet into war (JF17) while we are still dragging our feet. Because we are principled. There is a reason why hostiles are able to ensure that demographics of Kashmir will never change. Because our courts are principled. We don't punish people randomly for not being "Pure and Truthful".

I am not deriding that. Being principled makes you predictable and may be reasonable. Viable, successful, real may or may not happen.

Its okay. There is no single correct answer to all these question.
 
Interesting. Please note this guys psy ops. Is he something or is he something?

Where does your sympathy vanish when you brutalise Balochis? Where does your sympathy vanish when you bomb FATA with mortars, artillery, helicopter gunships & FA? Since your co religionists are in Iran & Afghanistan too, how come you support terrorists against them? Finally your co religionists also exist in Xinjiang. Why doesn't your heart bleed for them?

How come your heart bleeds only for Kashmiris?
FATA abd Balochistan were given option to vote to join Pakistan or not to join Pakistan. Referendum were held in both areas in 1948 and both areas voted to join Pakistan.
No such joy for Kashmiris. They were never given this right. So kashmir and Balochistan cannot be compared.
Likewise kashmiri until recently aren't known to be suicide bombers and do not attack Indian public. They fight with guns against soldiers who are also armed.
FATA people attack unarmed civilians and that's why military operations against them.
So again FATA and kashmir cannot be compared.
 
He is full of shit. Doesn't have ANY principle or position. Comes up with self serving rants all the time. Makes rules up. Makes facts up. Hypocrisy is his middle name. Self awareness he treats like bacon.

Idiots such as him should be kicked out for trolling.

When u show his terrorism he talks about his "cultural band" with Kashmiris. BC such bullshit only belongs to his madrassa. Not here.
It's much deeper than that. From extensive reading over the years, I'm convinced the level of indoctrination an ordinary Pakistani is subjected to is unbelievable. Be it in a madrassah or an English medium school. Right from an early age, they're taught a few fundamentals viz Jews and Hindus are to be treated with extreme Contempt. Kaahmir is the unfinished business of partition. The Army is the only institution to whom every Pakistani must be beholden, etc. As they progress over the years the indoctrination increases. Faculties such as common sense, analytical abilities, etc are sacrificed at the altar unquestioning belief in these basic tenets - one of which also includes raising the flag of Pakistan at the red fort.

The results are there for all to see. The PA has virtually demolished every institution on which a modern nation state stands. They've willy nilly become the sole arbitor of Pakistan's destiny suc that a few Pakistanis whose critical faculties continue to function know it's futile to oppose the status quo and have either resigned themselves to their fate or exited Pakistan.

This guy also belongs to the army. His reasoning shouldn't come as any surprise. Where surprising is he had the ability to overcome his deeply held beliefs and instead of living a reasonably decent retired life in Fauji Foundation or put his money where his mouth is and join the jihad in Kashmir or Afghanistan, he had the sagacity to pack up and move to the UK. A matrimonial alliance there would've eased his decision making process too. But as they say, you can take a man out of Pakistan but you can't take Pakistan out of a man.

Hence we get the bilge he churns out thanks to the years and years of conditioning.
 
Oh well. You could have said the same to Bengali as well when you were formed. What happened?
Besides, how many people in Punjab speak Kashmiri?
Oh, how many follow the same customs as Kashmiri?
And about religion, India has roughly a very similar number of Muslims.

Here is a hint : The connection etc etc etc is merely a pretext. We know Pakistan wants to ensure its water supply by attacking Indian soil, indirectly. Our forces will ensure that will never happen.
Except that Bengali decided to leave Pakistan and we wish them all the best.
But Kashmiris want to join Pakistan since 1947, so both are entirely different.
 
Except that Bengali decided to leave Pakistan and we wish them all the best.
You certainly didn't say that in '71. If best wishes is a systematic genocide then my best wishes to Kashmiri separatists.

But Kashmiris want to join Pakistan since 1947, so both are entirely different.
They can. Except the land belongs to India. Its a free country, they are free to leave. Again, best wishes to separatists.
 
FATA abd Balochistan were given option to vote to join Pakistan or not to join Pakistan. Referendum were held in both areas in 1948 and both areas voted to join Pakistan.
No such joy for Kashmiris. They were never given this right. So kashmir and Balochistan cannot be compared.
Likewise kashmiri until recently aren't known to be suicide bombers and do not attack Indian public. They fight with guns against soldiers who are also armed.
FATA people attack unarmed civilians and that's why military operations against them.
So again FATA and kashmir cannot be compared.
Let me remind you that you aren't on PDF. Your statement needs to be backed up with both references and citations for all the claims you make.
 
Oh nonononono!
Never do that!
If someone is idiot, you should be able to prove him to be one easily.
Breaking a puzzle is sign of frustration. Solvers don't break puzzles, they solve it.

Haven't we debunked him already? He keeps changing his arguments from technical to emotional as they suit him.

Do u think he has the analytical abilities to separate

Technical issues
Moral issues
Causes and the freedom to propogate those and the acceptable means
What is activism and what is terrorism

Or the abilities to accept cold documented facts?

Or the ability to see a picture of a downed F16 with the drop tanks and not see something else there?

NO. What use is such bs. He is a distraction and a waste of space. We want to read useful information here not his cognitive dissonance release.
 
PM is moving to Gujarat....and will be there for 2 days....
The Jamnagar Air Station there is critical to handling our blockade of Karachi.He must have gone there to supervise our preparations. He's leaving nothing to chance.
Meanwhile poor Niazi must be considering his fresh itinerary, hat in hand. Whatever he managed to scrounge is all evaporating before his eyes. I wonder if he'd muster enough courage to tell his Aqa - Qamar Bajwa to join him in his hat in hand expedition considering this is all PA's doing.

There must be times he must think marriage to Reham Khan was better than this.

Your thoughts @safriz
 
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