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IIRC, Imran Khan approved additional spending only last week, a few billion rupees. I think 8 billion rupees. And half that went towards the PAF.

8 billion PNR equivalent to 58 million $ ..

Half that 29 for PaF

Probably jet fuel expenses ..
 
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As soon as both sides start running low on arty ammo, it will automatically de-escalate.

For me the biggest take away from this standoff was , India graduated from spineless dossier business to some semblance of political entity that can stand on it's feet, hopefully the establishment builds on this.

The Military Action which has not been
Declared but which is causing lots of pain and grief to Pakistan is the Reason
Why Turks, Saudis , UAE, US - all are
Pleading on their Behalf

Four distinct things that stand out are

1 Feb 21 Sialkot sector
2 March 5 Rajasthan Border , Sri Ganganagar
3 LOC Bofors Assaults
4 Indian Navy deployment
 
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it just disappeared. whats exactly in Sri Ganganagar?

Some Skirmishes are going on for the last one week

This is the reason why Pakistan has sent
So many UAVs, 7 till now

Secondly there was firing between BSF and Rangers, this is known

Some source claim something Big happened
On 5 th March , which will be revealed later

IAF has a air station at Suratgarh , close to Pak border

Suratgarh is in this Sri Ganganagar sector
 
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Buddy, I talked of Buddy refueling to extend the range. I request you to go thru the Vulcan raid on Port Stanley airfield in 1982 falklands war and how it was done.

The range of a Mig-29K with 4 tanks is 3000Km. The centre line is used up for the pod. The armed Mig-29K with a centre tank and 2 wing tanks will also give 3000Km range. The remaining two heavy points are required for bombs.

If refuelling takes place at Porbandar, even if the refuellers land at Porbandar after refuelling thereby giving up their entire possible fuel load for the mission, the armed Mig-29K's range is still 3000Km. So the effective combat radius of the Mig-29K is only 1500Km. On rechecking, I found out that the distance between Porbandar and Tashkent is 2200Km. It's impossible for the armed Mig-29K to go beyond Kabul if the refuelling point is at Porbandar.

Your refuelling point has to be at least 1500Km away from the target. Like Bikaner. Of course even 1500Km is unrealistic since you need fuel for reserve, combat etc, while the bomb load will also swallow some fuel up.

In Falklands, the Vulcans were supported by Victor. And the Victor had a range of 10,000Km, which was more than the 6500Km range of the target. So the Victor had enough fuel to transfer, while the Vulcan had a range of 4000Km. IIRC, 11 Victors were used for the refuelling missions in the first mission. In our case, the buddy refueller has the same range as the armed Mig-29K, so both will hit bingo at the same time.

A more realistic scenario for us is if our strike package takes off from Mangalore, is refuelled in Ambala by buddy refuellers that were previously stationed in Ambala, and then are refuelled again in Ambala before the strike package returns home to Mangalore. From Ambala to Tashkent, with a distance of 1200Km, the Mig-29Ks will have more than enough fuel for combat and diversion if necessary.
 
The range of a Mig-29K with 4 tanks is 3000Km. The centre line is used up for the pod. The armed Mig-29K with a centre tank and 2 wing tanks will also give 3000Km range. The remaining two heavy points are required for bombs.

If refuelling takes place at Porbandar, even if the refuellers land at Porbandar after refuelling thereby giving up their entire possible fuel load for the mission, the armed Mig-29K's range is still 3000Km. So the effective combat radius of the Mig-29K is only 1500Km. On rechecking, I found out that the distance between Porbandar and Tashkent is 2200Km. It's impossible for the armed Mig-29K to go beyond Kabul if the refuelling point is at Porbandar.

Your refuelling point has to be at least 1500Km away from the target. Like Bikaner. Of course even 1500Km is unrealistic since you need fuel for reserve, combat etc, while the bomb load will also swallow some fuel up.

In Falklands, the Vulcans were supported by Victor. And the Victor had a range of 10,000Km, which was more than the 6500Km range of the target. So the Victor had enough fuel to transfer, while the Vulcan had a range of 4000Km. IIRC, 11 Victors were used for the refuelling missions in the first mission. In our case, the buddy refueller has the same range as the armed Mig-29K, so both will hit bingo at the same time.

A more realistic scenario for us is if our strike package takes off from Mangalore, is refuelled in Ambala by buddy refuellers that were previously stationed in Ambala, and then are refuelled again in Ambala before the strike package returns home to Mangalore. From Ambala to Tashkent, with a distance of 1200Km, the Mig-29Ks will have more than enough fuel for combat and diversion if necessary.
After refueling when you proceed towards Tashkent, the D/Ts will be jettisoned once empty and once the bombs are fired, the aircraft will be in clean config and have larger range with same amount of fuel while returning.
if you need 60% fuel to cover a distance fully loaded, you will need just about 40% to fly the same distance if you are clean.
 
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The range of a Mig-29K with 4 tanks is 3000Km. The centre line is used up for the pod. The armed Mig-29K with a centre tank and 2 wing tanks will also give 3000Km range. The remaining two heavy points are required for bombs.

If refuelling takes place at Porbandar, even if the refuellers land at Porbandar after refuelling thereby giving up their entire possible fuel load for the mission, the armed Mig-29K's range is still 3000Km. So the effective combat radius of the Mig-29K is only 1500Km. On rechecking, I found out that the distance between Porbandar and Tashkent is 2200Km. It's impossible for the armed Mig-29K to go beyond Kabul if the refuelling point is at Porbandar.

Your refuelling point has to be at least 1500Km away from the target. Like Bikaner. Of course even 1500Km is unrealistic since you need fuel for reserve, combat etc, while the bomb load will also swallow some fuel up.

In Falklands, the Vulcans were supported by Victor. And the Victor had a range of 10,000Km, which was more than the 6500Km range of the target. So the Victor had enough fuel to transfer, while the Vulcan had a range of 4000Km. IIRC, 11 Victors were used for the refuelling missions in the first mission. In our case, the buddy refueller has the same range as the armed Mig-29K, so both will hit bingo at the same time.

A more realistic scenario for us is if our strike package takes off from Mangalore, is refuelled in Ambala by buddy refuellers that were previously stationed in Ambala, and then are refuelled again in Ambala before the strike package returns home to Mangalore. From Ambala to Tashkent, with a distance of 1200Km, the Mig-29Ks will have more than enough fuel for combat and diversion if necessary.

If Range is the only thing being considered
Then only Su 30 is the option

Even in Gagan shakti exercises they did 4000 km missions

The Best use of MiG 29 K would be to knock out PAF Mirages and P 3C which
Regularly patrol the Karachi coastline
Armed with Anti Ship Missiles like Exocets
 
After refueling when you proceed towards Tashkent, the D/Ts will be jettisoned once empty and once the bombs are fired, the aircraft will be in clean config and have larger range with same amount of fuel while returning.
if you need 60% fuel to cover a distance fully loaded, you will need just about 40% to fly the same distance if you are clean.

Clean, the range of the Mig-29K is 2000Km with 100% internal fuel. 3 DTs add 1000Km. Bombs reduce range considerably.

So the figure of 3000Km with 2 bombs and 4 missiles is already unrealistic. It is in fact less than that.
 
Everytime a P3 C or a Mirage 5 is near Karachi , we should launch 4 MiG 29 K from
Jamnagar and lock them over the High Seas

Then see their Reaction.

The Best Revenge for 27 Feb would be
To knock out Orions
 
Have a look at the map. Indus is just 75Kms from border and hardly any obstructions on ground to slow down the advance of Armour.

The 198 km Jammu border is full of Kinks
And Bends

We can cause immense damage to Pak Army

They cannot hold every mile in that area

Pakistan Centric: ‘The Indian Army’ – Analysis

just to pique some interest of the readers on ganganagar.. i ll leave it at that..

Incomplete article , No mention of the Other Two Strike Corps

1 Corps , and 21 Corps

This is what scares the Pakistanis

All the Posturing so far has been done
By Holding Corps and Pivot corps
 
Isn't that the area which is the X Corps' domain, which is easily our most powerful Pivot Corps?

We have the 24th RAPID there in Bikaner and they sit right across Bhawalpur.


One can do a scenario as to why Pakistanis are antsy of the region precisely on studying the area, the location and the tactical importance of the area.
 
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Incomplete article , No mention of the Other Two Strike Corps

1 Corps , and 21 Corps

This is what scares the Pakistanis

All the Posturing so far has been done
By Holding Corps and Pivot corps
deliberately havent disclosed what i know... not too much.. that article is from 2011. a lot has happened since.. even an MoU to use the nearby airstrip for next 10 years by the army.
 
If Range is the only thing being considered
Then only Su 30 is the option

Even in Gagan shakti exercises they did 4000 km missions

The Best use of MiG 29 K would be to knock out PAF Mirages and P 3C which
Regularly patrol the Karachi coastline
Armed with Anti Ship Missiles like Exocets

The current MKI does not have as much range as it will once it gets drop tanks. The Gagan Shakti missions were done with mid-air refuelling.
 
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@Falcon @vstol Jockey

If we want to open another front why not
Akhnoor and Chicken Neck

Why Sri Ganganagar


We are not opening any front. There is nothing much going on in that area except disposition of Indian forces which has the other side a bit antsy.


See the area and you will know why.

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