Intentionally, or they were given wrong coordinates? Who knows!
Interesting read.
India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
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Intentionally, or they were given wrong coordinates? Who knows!
Interesting read.
@screambowl There are several parts of this story
Part 1 : Indian Public
Indian public was .satisfied when Abhinandan was Returned in 2 days and
When F 16 was Shot down
Infact the IAF statement was that the 24 plane PAF formation was foiled by 10 plane Indian formation
INDIAN people wanted a war on 27
but cooled down the Next day
when Imran announced Abhi' s release
Hindi channels were saying
Pakistan has lied down in front of Modi
@screambowl
Part 2 of this Story is Indian Military
And their Anger and morale
This is Where I believe 2 things happened
March 5 / March 6 event which that Babaji
Called an attack on Pakistan Military Installation
And the free Hand given to Army after Abhi came back
Some sources are saying that at least
500 Pakistan Army soldiers have been killed by Indian Army
@screambowl
The Part 3 of this story
It is Indian election and Opposition parties
If we had escalated , the opposition would have accused Modi of War Mongering
Especially after When Indian Public was
Dancing after Abhinandan came back
@screambowl
The part 4 of this story
Is the International Intervention by all big countries , which we could not overlook
Also Remember that War is expensive
And Inflationary and when Shit Hits the fan
People will blame Modi for Inflation
We will get more opportunities to Hurt and Kill Pakistan
It is not over yet
Part 1 : Indian Public
Indian public was .satisfied when Abhinandan was Returned in 2 days and
When F 16 was Shot down
Infact the IAF statement was that the 24 plane PAF formation was foiled by 10 plane Indian formation
INDIAN people wanted a war on 27
but cooled down the Next day
when Imran announced Abhi' s release
Hindi channels were saying
Pakistan has lied down in front of Modi
@screambowl
Part 2 of this Story is Indian Military
And their Anger and morale
This is Where I believe 2 things happened
March 5 / March 6 event which that Babaji
Called an attack on Pakistan Military Installation
And the free Hand given to Army after Abhi came back
Some sources are saying that at least
500 Pakistan Army soldiers have been killed by Indian Army
@screambowl
The Part 3 of this story
It is Indian election and Opposition parties
If we had escalated , the opposition would have accused Modi of War Mongering
Especially after When Indian Public was
Dancing after Abhinandan came back
@screambowl
The part 4 of this story
Is the International Intervention by all big countries , which we could not overlook
Also Remember that War is expensive
And Inflationary and when Shit Hits the fan
People will blame Modi for Inflation
We will get more opportunities to Hurt and Kill Pakistan
It is not over yet
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Can you put up the IAF statement? I seem to have misunderstood it as being:
"The Pakistan Air Force aircraft attempting to target our military installations were intercepted by IAF aircrafts, which foiled their attack. "
And "Although, PAF bombs have fallen in the Indian Army Formation compound, however, they were unable to cause damage to our installations."
Now let us examine what has happened. IAF went into Pakistan, hit targets of JeM and egressed with zero loss. GoP and Pakistani Armed Forces were naturally under pressure to retaliate. What did Pakistan do?
Just putting a few of my earlier posts as had planned to put all up for you to understand how picture was being formed, but got tired of taking screenshots. So head back and collate:
This is much before Mirage 2000s news came out with media speculating the take off from forward bases. The mixed package of fighters from both No 1 'Tigers' and No 7 'Battleaxes'.
If you note my second point, it was always clear to everyone that they will retaliate.
Self explanatory
And what happened? The crackdown on JeM and others, lots of noise, and dropping of 04 x stand off weapons with GPS/INS guidance within Indian military compound, thereby allowing themselves to claim a response and yet not hit a military target within India to provoke India to strike across the board.
Please understand what narrative and position was being built up.
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You are claiming that they targeted Su-30 MKI, they are claiming a kill of the same, what if the AIM-120C were the multiple lauches of AAM at Mig-21 Bison which was shot down? Remember it was operating under the protective top cover of Su-30 MKI which were jamming? That would mean that the Mig-21 was ahead and below?
And they were in their airspace and ours were in our, heading westwards, a lucky shot could have led to the aircraft crashing across LOC, just like Mig-21, if indeed Su-30 MKIs were targeted.
Who said we are preparing for war?
Incorrect, India can escalate when it wants.
H-4 is LGB? Or is it GPS/INS guided?
Logic would hold if it was indeed a LGB. But it is not.
Rest all, speculative and based on incorrect information.
Sir IAF and many Experts in India have said
That Su 30 was the Target of Aim 120
Because it has huge symbolic value
A pak expert even justified the BVR shots
By saying that Su 30 is Invincible in WVR
And PAF was asked to stay at min 25 Km away from Su 30
Your point makes sense. But that is not the case. The GoI is simply under tremendous pressure by world powers to allow the diplomatic means to address the issue. Let us be very clear, we can do naught without support. We are not that economically or militarily strong. We have to cater to China at every juncture.
Yup, broadly no two views.
Our own @vstol Jockey had said that since
PAF was challenged they dropped the bombs in a hurry and fuses could not be activated because of Sub Optimal release
War will not happen because
Three Indian forums
DFI , Our Forum and BR wants it
How many keyboard warriors will pay Rs 100 for oil and still vote for Modi
PAF was challenged they dropped the bombs in a hurry and fuses could not be activated because of Sub Optimal release
War will not happen because
Three Indian forums
DFI , Our Forum and BR wants it
How many keyboard warriors will pay Rs 100 for oil and still vote for Modi
I find it somehow more difficult to convince my fellow country(wo)men than Babaji. What can I say .....
Baba ji is doing better work compared to DG ISPR ...
Giving hopes to people .
GoI have to give him some renumeration..
Abhinandan's Mig 21 was quite far away from Su30
The Su 30 and Mirages were protecting the Army installations
Abhinandan and his Wingman were Northwards to the Brigade HQ at the periphery of the War zone
One Map was posted by Rohit of BR
Showing the location of All the planes
Most of these guys have forgotten that the Mirage-5 flew in a tangential arc towards LOC and the intended targets to release these INS/GPS guided bombs. They never came within 10 kms of the LOC. Three F-16s breached the LOC to try and strike the ammo dump near Reasi. They were engaged by Wg. Cdr. Abhi. The Other F-16s remained within their own airspace and tried to down a Su-30MKI and failed.
Yes I did say that. even glide bombs have an altitude vs range chart and also arming system. If you release them at lower altitude than the planned height or before the launch point, they will miss the targets. Other freefall bombs have a device which is time based for arming the bombs. If you release them at a lower height, the bombs will not explode.
Sir.
I shall be honored if you were to read carefully what I wrote in my post you have so elegantly replied to.
Sorry, how many will join the forces to fight? That is the pertinent question. They would rather that someone else heads out to fight.
Well, no sir, not because keyboard warriors want to feel nice in other forum.
I doubt, once he said he decorated spyder system in desert(which i feel creating camouflage). others, please pardon me and dont ask why are we discussing some random baba.
You want bullshit meter to go up here? Should I ask the owners to change the name to Bullshit Defence Forum?
I can post feel good posts too .. none which can be disproved by anyone here and in Social Media.
But none that will ever be proved either
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