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If Falcon said it is not captured yet then it is not, doesn't mean it won't be but so far it's not. Let's wait for his confirmation too. We are reading too much into not so certain sources and exaggerating with every reply.

It feel more and more like other form where they strike Pakistani nuclear storage with Bhramos every few replies.

If that ground is of so much importance it will be very heavily defended and we can't capture it without good number of casualties and so far we haven't seen anything like that. In all possibility we may have made life hell for Pakistanis staying there but unless it's confirmed by Falcon I won't belive it.

Maybe they have, maybe not. Either way , we will know soon enough. What @Falcon said about GTI makes sense in this scenario. Folks here are just debating the possibility of it. Besides, these Indian handles have driven Pakistanis crazy over the last 24 hours. Which in itself is a good thing.
 
I read it for few days and thought they will come to senses and talk rationally but they were so obsessed with Bhramos striking nuclear facility that it became absurd, never read it again no wonder they are finding Pakistani satellite, one of their major moderator is active on Twitter and tweets he likes and engages with looks like some child though he maybe above 50.

This is the only place where sanity strikes after few replies and if not, hellfire rains non stop ;)

To be honest, No offence. I get the feeling too many people think themselves as superior to others. Discussions need to be curtailed to a specific set of topics and in a specific boundary so as to not feel outlandish. If you simply felt this is ridicules, ask them. Even Balakot airstrikes, and surgical strikes at some point felt outlandish. I could go on and point out specific hypocrisy but I am no mood to fight.

If you don't believe, talk to them. Stop ridiculing them just because you feel you have different opinions. People are simply discussing the possibilities of such actions. One of the reasons I left this forum for months is the very high handed attitude few people seem to have here.
 
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To be honest, No offence. I get the feeling too many people think themselves as superior to others. Discussions need to be curtailed to a specific set of topics and in a specific boundary so as to not feel outlandish. If you simply felt this is ridicules, ask them. Even Balakot airstrikes, and surgical strikes at some point felt outlandish. I could go on and point out specific hypocrisy but I am no mood to fight.

If you don't believe, talk to them. Stop ridiculing them just because you feel you have different opinions. People are simply discussing the possibilities of such actions. One of the reasons I left this forum for months is the very high handed attitude few people seem to have here.
This is not high-handedness but a basic application of brain won't kill anyone, how absurd it is to think we strike nuclear faculty using missiles! It's is not possibility and instead of stopping it keep finding reasons to justify it.

Nobody is asking you to fight and no surgical strikes or Balakot strikes were not outlandish, strikes inside Pakistan happened way before surgical strikes though not on that scale and definitely not overt. When situation demands actions are taken but there should be a situation like that. To strike with Bhramos you need to be hurt at that magnitude and you don't pick nuclear facilities as first target and leave it unfinished while a $10 Billion budget and $100 Billion business turnover army sit back comfortably.

If you feel a counter as some kind of high handedness then it's your choice but sugarcoating stupidity as "possibility" is really not digestible.
 
This is not high-handedness but a basic application of brain won't kill anyone, how absurd it is to think we strike nuclear faculty using missiles! It's is not possibility it's absurdity, and instead of stopping it keep finding reasons to justify it and calling it possibility is one of them.

Nobody is asking you to fight and no surgical strikes or Balakot strikes were not outlandish, strikes inside Pakistan happened way before surgical strikes though not on that scale and definitely not overt. When situation demands actions are taken but there should be a situation like that. To strike with Bhramos you need to be hurt at that magnitude and you don't pick nuclear facilities as first target and leave it unfinished while a $10 Billion budget and $100 Billion business turnover army sit back comfortably.

If you feel a counter as some kind of high handedness then it's your choice but sugarcoating stupidity as "possibility" is really not digestible.
It took us 25 days to wire M2Ks for LGB strikes in Munthadhalo. Sometimes, strikes are done to demosntrate a capability and it is not necessary that the nuke facility had nukes at that time.
I AM NOT AT ALL STATING THAT WE STRUCK SOME SUCH FACILITY IN PAKISTAN USING BRAHMOS. I am just informing you that at times things are done which may not have any immediate tactical benefit but delivers a huge startegic benefit. Strategic benefit is not only in terms of the enemy but also the morale of own people.
Just read about Dolittle raid of WW-2 and the Vulcan Raid of Falkland War.
 
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This is not high-handedness but a basic application of brain won't kill anyone, how absurd it is to think we strike nuclear faculty using missiles! It's is not possibility and instead of stopping it keep finding reasons to justify it.

Nobody is asking you to fight and no surgical strikes or Balakot strikes were not outlandish, strikes inside Pakistan happened way before surgical strikes though not on that scale and definitely not overt. When situation demands actions are taken but there should be a situation like that. To strike with Bhramos you need to be hurt at that magnitude and you don't pick nuclear facilities as first target and leave it unfinished while a $10 Billion budget and $100 Billion business turnover army sit back comfortably.

If you feel a counter as some kind of high handedness then it's your choice but sugarcoating stupidity as "possibility" is really not digestible.

Maybe it is basic application of brain, if you don't like these opinions. Create an account and write a polite reply as to why you think these claims are unrealistic. Pulwama has hurt of lot of people, people are baying for blood. They may or may not believe outlandish things. They may think from their hearts than from their brains.

On one hand you claim its not high handedness and then following sentence you use "sugarcoating stupidity as "possibility". How hard is it for people to be polite? How hard is it for people to not ridicule. Is it that difficult to restrain yourself a little bit? Do you really think using these fancy words will help you convince anyone? When was the last time ridiculing and making fun of people convened them of their mistakes?

This isn't PDF where you are dealing and laughing and ridiculing pakistanis. These are your own people, you deal with them differently.
Hope I made my point clear.
 
It took us 25 days to wire M2Ks for LGB strikes in Munthadhalo. Sometimes, strikes are done to demosntrate a capability and it is not necessary that the nuke facility had nukes at that time.
I AM NOT AT ALL STATING THAT WE STRUCK SOME SUCH FACILITY IN PAKISTAN USING BRAHMOS. I am just informing you that at times things are done which may not have any immediate tactical benefit but delivers a huge startegic benefit. Strategic benefit is not only in terms of the enemy but also the morale of own people.
Just read about Dolittle raid of WW-2 and the Vulcan Raid of Falkland War.
Depends upon situation and adversary sir. We can hit Nepal or Sri Lanka Parliament with cruise or ballistic missile with impunity and they won't be able to do anything but Pakistan is not weak militarily. This action can never go unanswered and unnoticed with half of world breathing down our neck threatening crippling sanctions.
 
They seem to be testing us and baiting us. But have no heart for a fight. The moment you fly towards J&K and reach Punjab border from anywhere in India, you have to contact "Northern Control". This is somewhere above Patnitop area and this radar looks really deep in Pakistan from a height of over 14k feet. It covers an area right upto Afghan border and also nearly whole of Pak Punjab. It was this radar which first picked up all these fighters engaged in 27th Feb raid. It tracked them right from the time they got airborne. Within about 10 minutes the entire strike package and its intentions were clear to the Indian ADDC located in Punjab which controls the air defence of entire North India. The AWACs and additional fighters were launched to intercept this strike formation if they entered Indian air space.
The engagement between Wg. Cdr. Abhi and F-16 took place in this time when our other intercepters were still getting airborne. Their idea was to target brigade HQ in India and kill large number of officers and Jawans as a revenge for Balakot. Their choice of target and intentions are also a clear indicator of what actually happened in Balakot and how many casualties they suffered.
They also knew that only two SU-30MKIs were on station and they intended to take down atleast one of them. Their estimation was that these two SU-30MKI will rush into combat to be easily outnumbered and shot using BVRAAMs. But their plans got a big jolt when the Mig-21s from Udhampur and Awantipur suddenly arrived at the scene and the SU-30MKI pilots displayed a rare example of fighter flying. Su-30MKI pilots decided to stay in combat and wait for the best time to fight and also choose the most easy target till additional force arrived. Their decision to dodge AMRAAMs and not counter attack is perhaps the finest example the air forces all over the world can learn in such a situation. Most European/NATO forces will have to face such situations while fighting Russians and Chinese. Had it not been for those two SU-30MKI and Mig-21 pilots, the situation on 27th could have been a huge embrassment for us
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Sir, for the specific bold.

AWACS was on station in depth area. This news that there was no AWACS on station has been quoted to me by a Pakistani member too. But the same is, I believe, based on some ex-IAF writing as such.

It is an incorrect assertion by the gentleman.
 
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Maybe it is basic application of brain, if you don't like these opinions. Create an account and write a polite reply as to why you think these claims are unrealistic. Pulwama has hurt of lot of people, people are baying for blood. They may or may not believe outlandish things. They may think from their hearts than from their brains.

On one hand you claim its not high handedness and then following sentence you use "sugarcoating stupidity as "possibility". How hard is it for people to be polite? How hard is it for people to not ridicule. Is it that difficult to restrain yourself a little bit? Do you really think using these fancy words will help you convince anyone? When was the last time ridiculing and making fun of people convened them of their mistakes?

This isn't PDF where you are dealing and laughing and ridiculing pakistanis. These are your own people, you deal with them differently.
Hope I made my point clear.
If my reply made you feel offended my apologies and everyone else who felt that way.
 
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Sir, for the specific bold.

AWACS was on station in depth area. This news that there was no AWACS on station has been quoted to me by a Pakistani member too. But the same is, I believe, based on some ex-IAF writing as such.

It is an incorrect assertion by the gentleman.
In that case explain to me why GCIO controlled the Intercept and the battle and not AWACS?
 
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Very much expected. The positioning of MR-SAM before undertaking the strike to reinforce the exiting AD units in Srinagar, Awantipore and Udhampur, points to the same too.
Retaliation was expected but not so soon and not in broad daylight. IAF did get a surprise. So much so that they had detected these formations getting airborne way earlier but did not think that they are going to attack targets in India. It was only when some of them approached the 10Km line that things became serious.
 
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