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This video is from Karachi Chinese consulate attack!!!!
Which video? The one tweeted by baba? Attackers were killed on gate, they never reached top floor of building and detonated, looks unlikely that it is from that attack.

Here read what it says-
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It is most definitely our concern, maybe not specifically to you or me, but most definitely to national security.

And it's not just PAF, think about the entire terror system in general. Pakistan's terror infrastructure is loosely built on discipline and mostly built on josh. As far as the terrorists are concerned, we took out hundreds of them in multiple locations and got away with it. And the subsequent retaliation by PAF to do similar damage failed completely. It's likely the night before the PAF had promised the terrorists to settle scores and they couldn't. They used to hit us for decades and used to sleep comfortably in their training camps. But now that comfort has been completely shattered, including their faith in the armed forces actually protecting them when it counts.

As for the PAF, their attack completely failed in every conceivable way. Even their standoff weapons failed completely. I mean, total 100% failure. You send in your best aircraft, supported by the best support aircraft (Erieye, DA-20) with your best weapons and you still fail. Can you simply imagine the morale loss there?

I still don't think you have understood much about how good 27th has been to us in the overall scheme of things. The only major loss we suffered was by our own hands.
That's exactly what I am say. They brought their best with more than 3:1 advantage of 27 fighters against IAF 8 fighters and still couldn't achieve anything. They have opened all their cards and now IAF can/will play accordingly in future...😉
 
Which video? The one tweeted by baba? Attackers were killed on gate, they never reached top floor of building and detonated, looks unlikely that it is from that attack.

Here read what it says-View attachment 7641
Is it today's?Maulana is our asset ,he helps us in nailing Pakistanis in international forums , similarly with Hafeez Saeed , just broadcast his free life lecturing to Pakistani cretins at UN each other , he has a million dollar bounty on his head
 
Today I received my first negative rating on PDF.i told them we don't have any proof of su-30 kill and this is the reason for negative rating.lol
Soon someone will call you an Indian, watch out.

btw whats the count on PDeF these days? last time I checked it was some 8 iaf jets including mig 29s, su30s and mk2s
 
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That's exactly what I am say. They brought their best with more than 3:1 advantage of 27 fighters against IAF 8 fighters and still couldn't achieve anything. They have opened all their cards and now IAF can/will play accordingly in future...😉

Not counting all the upgrades we have initiated to our own systems.
 
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Soon someone will call you an Indian, watch out.

btw whats the count on PDeF these days? last time I checked it was some 8 iaf jets including mig 29s, su30s and mk2s
A member in PDF is claiming 3mki went down and nobody give him negative rating.mki is not a toy.i am very sad for this negative rating.
 
Not counting all the upgrades we have initiated to our own systems.
Absolutely. And the newer fighters like LCA and Rafales and S-400s which will join the party next time. Just 2-3 sqdns of Rafales along with s-400s can really ground entire PAF, freeing other assets for eastern border if lizard decides for some adventure....
 
To contain China, prority should be Pakistan and North Korea.


And I am pretty sure, there will not be any overt action for now.

The Balakot strike was an overt action for China and Pakistan. That their CPEC corridor in Mansehra is well within Indian strike capability. This is why we hit them in Mansehra through which the road from Gwadar and Pasni to Western China runs. I won't be surprized if the target was an intel safe house for both ISI and MSS to conduct operations in Kashmir valley to give India economic damage by diverting Indian resources to control unrest in Kashmir.

If they had escalated, loss to Chinese was due in Gwadar. But the reach of Chinese in the countries surround India is more problematic which needs to be countered at any cost without involving west completely, or else that will be another headache.
 
We never wanted to Target your hq.our statement was clear but members don't trust us.we wanted to send a message.we did feb27 because we were under pressure.

Incorrect.

The intent, as very clearly put forth by ACM Tipnis, was to "drop" a couple at AFBs of Srinagar and Awantipore. They were the primaries. The secondary targets were army formations nearer to LC. The PAF did not achieve the primary. So, a switch to secondary was undertaken.

And contrary to the self appreciating posts prevalent in Social Media of Indian COAS being at the Brigade HQ, nothing could be further from the truth. If the targeting was required to be done, it could have easily been done with the Artillery Systems already existing within your Area as of today. Or even a stand off strike from well away from LC by your Aircrafts could have been done. Think this one out.
 
It is most definitely our concern, maybe not specifically to you or me, but most definitely to national security.

When I said it's none of our concerns, it means that we do not have any role to play in it's implosion / degeneration. It does not transpire that this won't have any repercussions on our national security. I'd rather the IAF plays to it's strength than calculate or rather miscalculate, underestimating the PAF and barely getting out of jail as on 27th Feb.

And it's not just PAF, think about the entire terror system in general. Pakistan's terror infrastructure is loosely built on discipline and mostly built on josh. As far as the terrorists are concerned, we took out hundreds of them in multiple locations and got away with it. And the subsequent retaliation by PAF to do similar damage failed completely. It's likely the night before the PAF had promised the terrorists to settle scores and they couldn't. They used to hit us for decades and used to sleep comfortably in their training camps. But now that comfort has been completely shattered, including their faith in the armed forces actually protecting them when it counts.

I admire the way you conflate issues and attempt to change the framework of the debate. In case you haven't noticed, the entire discussion over the past 24 hours has been centred around the events of the 27th Feb & not on Balakote.

As for the PAF, their attack completely failed in every conceivable way. Even their standoff weapons failed completely. I mean, total 100% failure. You send in your best aircraft, supported by the best support aircraft (Erieye, DA-20) with your best weapons and you still fail. Can you simply imagine the morale loss there?

The very fact that they attempted something like this in broad daylight tells you that the so called overwhelming strength the IAF was supposed to bring to bear on the PAF didn't work. The PAF wasn't deterred.
I still don't think you have understood much about how good 27th has been to us in the overall scheme of things. The only major loss we suffered was by our own hands.

Your interpretation. I only hope you aren't spinning off the Abhinandan episode as another incident of friendly fire by stating that the "only major loss was what we suffered by our own hands. "

What PAF demonstrated on 27th Feb was they aren't a walk over and while in a full blown war they'd be at the receiving end, they have enough up their sleeves to extract a cost of the IAF. That to me is salient lesson of 27th Feb.

Meanwhile, you can continue to spin things to fit in with your narrative in keeping with the glittering results of Operation Gaganshakti. I doubt the IAF itself would share your optimism, after 27th Feb . It must also be added that while the IA has done some preparation for skirmishes , short of a war - long or short, as we witnessed in the aftermath of 26 / 27 Feb along the LoC , the IAF is still going about this in a very conventional manner.
 
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So, according to you China is providing equipment to the Pakistanis free of cost. That's a new one. Please elaborate if you can. I'd be most interested to see how far and in what direction you go with this.

The Erieyes came out of their own pocket, but the P-3s didn't.
The P-3's may well have not cost the Pakistanis a dime but they were paid for by US aid, which otherwise would have fetched them other equipment. So, it's a cost to Pakistan whichever way you see it.
 
When I said it's none of our concerns, it means that we do not have any role to play in it's implosion / degeneration. It does not transpire that this won't have any repercussions on our national security. I'd rather the IAF plays to it's strength than calculate or rather miscalculate, underestimating the PAF and barely getting out of jail as on 27th Feb.



I admire the way you conflate issues and attempt to change the framework of the debate. In case you haven't noticed, the entire discussion over the past 24 hours has been centred around the events of the 27th Feb & not on Balakote.



The very fact that they attempted something like this in broad daylight tells you that the so called overwhelming strength the IAF was supposed to bring to bear on the PAF didn't work. The PAF wasn't deterred.


Your interpretation. I only hope you aren't spinning off the Abhinandan episode as another incident of friendly fire by stating that the "only major loss was what we suffered by our own hands. "

What PAF demonstrated on 27th Feb was they aren't a walk over and while in a full blown war they'd be at the receiving end, they have enough up their sleeves to extract a cost of the IAF. That to me is salient lesson of 27th Feb.

Meanwhile, you can continue to spin things to fit in with your narrative in keeping with the glittering results of Operation Gaganshakti. I doubt the IAF itself would share your optimism, after 27th Feb . It must also be added that while the IA has done some preparation for skirmishes , short of a war - long or short, as we witnessed in the aftermath of 26 / 27 Feb along the LoC , the IAF is still going about this in a very conventional manner.

What happened on Feb 27 , that is a 24 plane attack will Happen AGAIN , next time there will be Attacks at 2 or more places

It is our Job to be able to Thwart it And then
Escalate the whole thing to the next level

That is why I am saying , there is no point in attacking Balakot like places

We should directly attack Military bases and installations

Our opening attack should be at Military Targets
 
What happened on Feb 27 , that is a 24 plane attack will Happen AGAIN , next time there will be Attacks at 2 or more places

It is our Job to be able to Thwart it And then
Escalate the whole thing to the next level

That is why I am saying , there is no point in attacking Balakot like places

We should directly attack Military bases and installations

Our opening attack should be at Military Targets
Balakot was a bit different. We did not expect PA to announce the strike. But they did. Next time we will not keep quiet and will do it even better.
 
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