What's the objective? What's the goal? Where will this lead to? How will this be better than what we have already done?
India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
- Thread starter nair
- Start date
- Status
What's the objective? What's the goal? Where will this lead to? How will this be better than what we have already done?
I think we are just going around in circles
Pakistan will Never change its behaviour
If you kill only terrorists
This has been said by many experts on TV and social media
It is their Military which has to feel the pain
Pakistan will Never change its behaviour
If you kill only terrorists
This has been said by many experts on TV and social media
It is their Military which has to feel the pain
I think we are just going around in circles
Pakistan will Never change its behaviour
If you kill only terrorists
This has been said by many experts on TV and social media
It is their Military which has to feel the pain
So? Are we afraid of Pakistan? Or should we be? What exactly are you driving at? That of they land a few body blows on you, you ought to be content with a singular slap you landed on their face. Is that how you tackled school bullies?
This weepy-whiny logic won't work on armed forces families.
So even the greatest powers have focused on divide and rule. But you want to change everything into a head-on confrontation?
Where is that weepy-whiny logic of explaining to families of dead soldiers? Or are you volunteering to fight the Pakistanis yourself?
We would have escalated. Like naval action. And then waited for them to hit back. If they were successful again, the cycle would repeat.
With a few tit for tat attacks, either one of us would have ended it after a point since we do not want war.
But we carried out the strikes simply because we knew they couldn't hit back. And we were accurate in judging their strength.
All you are discussing is ifs and buts. The fact is we attacked them successfully, and then thwarted their attack, and they fell back defeated. End of story.
Yes. It was a spectacular performance all round.
The Pakistani attack was massive and all they could do was shoot down just 1 Mig-21 and take our pilot captive and then return him in one piece. It's a major win in any book.
In your case, ignorance is bliss.
You should actually be wondering why Pakistan hasn't tried to attack us again after having failed so spectacularly.
Sorry, but we can't do anything to Pakistan short of repeating 1971. And if we do attempt it, Delhi and Mumbai will be holes in the ground because our technology is simply not there yet. Only the international community can help us in dealing with the situation peacefully.
If you want war, it will take a few more years, then we can have your war.
Have you read the article? Does an attack on Pakistan constitute an attack on China? Will China go out on a limb and apart from arming Pakistan also fight it's wars. From suggesting China would sell Ships and submarines free of cost to the PN, you've come this far just to justify that one flight of fancy. Please quote from this article where does it say what you've been claiming viz : China will sell PN ships, submarines and armaments free of cost, that they'd militarily intervene on behalf of Pakistan, that they'd suspend their own ship / sub building activities to further Pakistani aims.
Time and time again I've been asking you, but you've been sidestepping it.
What's the objective? What's the goal? Where will this lead to? How will this be better than what we have already done?
This isn't my logic. It's your weasel logic. You made the claim.
I merely asked you to repeat this claim to the families of those KIA. If it's weeny weepy logic, I can't complain. You know yourself better.
What exactly did the PAF precipitate on 27th Feb?
So, you didn't have anything of substance to offer. Hence, ad hominem is now the name of the game.Two can play this game. By the same token, should we take your refusal to fight as typical Brahminical cowardice? Or to be politically correct - taciturnity.
Is PN in a position to respond? That's news. Or are you suggesting the PA or PAF would take up cudgels on their behalf. Hell, weren't you all so thrilled and gung ho courtesy Op Gaganshakti.
We don't want war. They can't afford it. Not like they want it too.Make out of it what you may.
Yawn. 27th Feb? Ho hum....
They fell back defeated? Ah optimism has reached new heights. It's called self delusion out here. Not in la la Land though.
Of course it was.
They responded to the 26th Feb strike. Our response is pending.The Pakistani attack was massive and all they could do was shoot down just 1 Mig-21 and take our pilot captive and then return him in one piece. It's a major win in any book.
In your case, ignorance is bliss.
You should actually be wondering why Pakistan hasn't tried to attack us again after having failed so spectacularly.
This is pussilanimity at its best.That too from a self deluded optimist. Irony has a new home and name.
FYI - we'd never be battle ready. Not now not in a decade. Even if we are, there isn't going to be a war.
The objective is tit for tat response. The goal is to tell them we targetted terrorist camps in your territory coz you aren't doing anything about it . You're supporting and sustaining an insurgency by lending arms and your personnel to it. This has resulted in our forces taking a massive hit. This is the price you pay. We take out those terrorists. If you respond by targetting our military installations, we retaliate in kind. This will lead to a game of chicken. Provided our leadership is capable of playing it. I'm of the opinion Modi is. I'm also of the opinion PA isn't.
That's not what you said. You stated they will. Please look up what an assertive statement means.
To test this India hit them near cpec corridor , Balakot is not far from there. And result you could see in UN where China had to be forced to ban Masood. This made it clear that day.
This isn't my logic. It's your weasel logic. You made the claim.
I merely asked you to repeat this claim to the families of those KIA. If it's weeny weepy logic, I can't complain. You know yourself better.
What exactly did the PAF precipitate on 27th Feb?
So, you didn't have anything of substance to offer. Hence, ad hominem is now the name of the game.Two can play this game. By the same token, should we take your refusal to fight as typical Brahminical cowardice? Or to be politically correct - taciturnity.
So you have nothing to offer?
Ignorance is bliss. Gaganshakti and Balakot have nothing to do with eachother. Gaganshakti comes into play during war.
That's exactly what I meant. It was a complete failure.
Ignorance is bliss.
They didn't. If you hit me and break your hand in the process and are lying on the ground crying, why will I try to hit you after that?
What did the US do after Iran shot down their drone?
What did Russia do after Turkey shot down a manned fighter jet and then proceeded to kill the pilot?
Ignorance is bliss, mate.
Btw, you still didn't answer any of my questions.
Let's end it here before things turn ugly. Your reasoning as characterised in the HTT vs Pilatus is there for the world to see, where you insisted that the Pilatus must be selected and the IAF would see to it. Pls respond to Ashwins counter there.
Fyi. Iran & the US haven't been skirmishing and fought 4 wars in the past 70 years. Neither have Russia and Turkey.
Please also look up what the US destroyer USS Vincennes did during it's deployment in the Persian Gulf in the late 80's and post Iran's response. I doubt you were even born then.
But as you remarked ignorance is bliss.
- Status