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Direct threat....
"Despite all round debacle, Pak Army-ISI will attempt to disrupt peace here. Let #Pakistan try anything, they will get befitting reply. #IndianArmy will teach them a lesson, they will never forget, even graver than 71"

Graver than 1971 ?, That us a huge statement from army....
 
In his presser Ghafoora looke totally dejected and in his speech he was totally unconfident. Although he has vaguely mentioned the possibility of war but this was wholly to satisfy local Abduls for some time. His manners clearly showed that Pak army has been taken aback by our response on loc and cost inflicted on them is very high.
DGISPR Press conference details

53 mins long

First few minutes. The usual BS, a course on Pakistan's geography, the delusions of being very important blah blah blah.
Next India is mean to us
Then he comes on Kashmir - script is is very much the same from the last few weeks.
Then an info graphic if you can call it - a light dispersion image copied from a class 11 physics book replacing VIBGYOR with PA's conflict levels.
Next came the turn of Microsoft Office's default clip arts (Office 2010 or earlier by the looks of it) - for Pakistan's response through various mediums.
Then its Kashmir whining again and delusions that Pakistan has won the media and diplomatic blitz (SMH)
Mixed signals - we must not give in to India's designs, but if India doesnt stop Pakistan will react
Random promises to Kashmiris
Funniest part - Pakistan's independence efforts started in 1857 - take that historians. Screw facts.
Kashmir is our jugular vein. If all other options fail, then war is a compulsion. Choice is for India to make.

Questions begin.

Questions on balancing US-China relations. How Bajwa's extension fits in.
Kapoora takes potshots at media, praises for President Trump who among other things is a "Straightforward Leader"
Denies that a deal was made on Kashmir

Army chief extension was the perogative of the Prime Minister. Bajwa was unhappy but followed orders. My stomach hurts from laughing so hard.

One of the better questions - If Kashmir is your jugular vein and all options are not working then why no war? We see no results otherwise.
Kapoora gave some BS gyan for class participation. Again some noise on military action being on the table, Kapoora did not show his cards (ok some smart moves by him)

Questions on Sheikh Rasheed's 250 gm (paay) bombs. Whats the true deterrence capability vs. Cold Start.
Kapoora ducks like his wife caught him cheating

Hamid Mir - PA has 200,000 troops on Pak Afghan border. Indian leadership is eyeing PoJK. Any moves from India - will they cause moving of those troops to Kashmir. What will be the western reaction
Kapoora - India judges us to be weak post 20 yrs of constant fighting. We are upgrading our borders post which we will move those troops to the east. This is why India does not want peace on the western border. But India is our primary threat. They should know - our everything and anything is for them. We have our plans ready. Public wants to know our plans - cant tell that. Plans are ready. Leave execution to us.

Question on Haaretz article - Israel Pak official links.
Kapoora says its 5th gen war propaganda. Shoutout to our boy Zaidu here

Question on Persian gulf situation and Iran Pak relations
More Class participation. Hints at India Iran interests with annoyance.

Copy to His Exellency - @Arsalan123 - Acting High Commissioner - Pakistan
Pakistani army is facing extreme pressure from brainwashed jihadis at home and if you connect the dots it feels like there is going to be some BIG attack in India probably in Kashmir to cheer up troll army of Pakistan, so far they are preparing for retaliation from India after that attack. Their last fools paradise of Su30 shot down and no F16 lost got destroyed convulsively and jihadis are pressuring Pakistani to do what they promised them from long.

Like the panic evacuation pointed removal of 370 from India this ground work prepration from Pakistan indicates they have no option left but to commit harakiri. I just hope IA is prepared the way I got the idea. All indications points to conflict.
 
Pakistani army is facing extreme pressure from brainwashed jihadis at home and if you connect the dots it feels like there is going to be some BIG attack in India probably in Kashmir to cheer up troll army of Pakistan, so far they are preparing for retaliation from India after that attack.

Like the panic evacuation pointed removal of 370 from India this ground work prepration from Pakistan indicates they have no option left but to commit harakiri. I just hope IA is prepared the way I got the idea. All indications points to conflict.


Does anyone see any connect to 71 here? Indira Gandhi spent a good deal of time lobbying powers that mattered while IA built up its strength. It did not matter if IG did not get much traction in London or Washington. She had the Soviet Union firmly in her camp.

IK seems to be working on those lines. While we laugh away his childish attempts, its the same approach. They too have a P5 member with them. Two things are still unclear for me for now.

Whats PA's trump card. They cannot beat IA in the field and they will not risk nukes. While they prepare IA is beefing up as well. Whats their silver bullet. They are not THAT stupid that they will just wing it.

What will be the trigger? Sending masses of unarmed Pakistanis to the LoC to get blown up and gunned down. Or a massive terror op in India. They are dropping hints at both.
 
Pakistani army is facing extreme pressure from brainwashed jihadis at home and if you connect the dots it feels like there is going to be some BIG attack in India probably in Kashmir to cheer up troll army of Pakistan, so far they are preparing for retaliation from India after that attack. Their last fools paradise of Su30 shot down and no F16 lost got destroyed convulsively and jihadis are pressuring Pakistani to do what they promised them from long.

Like the panic evacuation pointed removal of 370 from India this ground work prepration from Pakistan indicates they have no option left but to commit harakiri. I just hope IA is prepared the way I got the idea. All indications points to conflict.
Yeah I was just about to ask that what members think of this statement of Ghafoora " If everything fails to grant freedom for Kashmiris then war will become an option, If not by choice then by compulsion".
I would like to invite the opinions of all the members on this statement.
 
Yeah I was just about to ask that what members think of this statement of Ghafoora " If everything fails to grant freedom for Kashmiris then war will become an option, If not by choice then by compulsion".
I would like to invite the opinions of all the members on this statement.

Saying due to domestic compulsion. I doubt they will try anything right now. Especially when we want Pakistanis to give us a reason.
 
They are not THAT stupid that they will just wing it.
Oh they are stupider than what you can probably think.
Saying due to domestic compulsion. I doubt they will try anything right now. Especially when we want Pakistanis to give us a reason.
They will and within few days or weeks, I think their defensive preprations are complete now, they took their sweet time and now just waiting for opportunity for a very big event.
 
Oh they are stupider than what you can probably think.

They will and within few days or weeks, I think their defensive prepration is complete now, they took their sweet time and now just waiting for opportunity for a very big event.
What would be the intensity of it? I think they will increase the stakes rapidly to make it reach the nuclear threshold so world powers become involved and do a mediation. After that they will just tell their aawam that how they won the war just like they did in past. What do you think?
 
What would be the intensity of it? I think they will increase the stakes rapidly to make it reach the nuclear threshold so world powers become involved and do a mediation. After that they will just tell their aawam that how they won the war just like they did in past. What do you think?
Whatever they try it won't end as a small skirmish. Even they are aware of it. But I still don't fully understand how far are they ready to take it? They wouldn't last long in an all-out and if they even try to make it out of it their awaam will chop them from behind.
 
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Whatever they try it won't end as a small skirmish. Even they are aware of it. But I still don't fully understand how far are they ready to take it? They wouldn't last long in an all-out and if they even try to make it out of it their awaam will chop them from behind.
Yeah that is why I think they would try to do nuclear blackmail for mediation.
 
Shuklaji, they have done nuclear yahoogiri for decades, it stopped in 2016...And then more decisively in Feb 2019 😂😂 let there be no doubts about that..I sincerely hope you are not attempting to raise doubts on that front.
Ofcourse not, I firmly believe that Pakistan doesn't possess any deliverable nuclear warhead. I was just saying that they may try to fool the world.
 
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Are U still expecting pay back for 28 Feb?

Is it possible now?

Haven't we paid anything back yet?

The contract was that the principal crime committed by Pakistan will be returned back right away in several times magnified proportions, but irrespective, India will have to keep paying the interest for a long time.

Being honest and committed to the contract, the Indian Army is obliging them their dues as per the terms in the form of Athmuqam, Haji Pir, Tarbela, several BOPs destroyed and now left unoccupied, getting honored by Baharin and UAE, and so on ;)
 
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