India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
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Not outgunned but out ranged, similar to how a 5.56 will outrange the 7.62x39. Range depends on the ability of the barrel to sustain the pressure, the Projectile design, the amount of charge. with a Heavier barrel, and additional charge even a 130 mm can be propelled as far.
"Poor number" in SPH is being extremely generous. If you take the K9's recently inducted Indian SPH number stands a Zero. I had tallied the numbers a little while ago.
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Just add a few Dhanush and the initial batch of K9's other than that eveything else remain instact on the Indian side.
On pakistani side they got a big batch of 65 used SPH's from Italy.
So OFB made IFG has heavier/better barrels than the Chinese/American supplied 122 and 130 mm in Pakistani arsenal ? Wow ! That was unexpected.
Read that already.
How come they are getting pounded by our atry every other day despite the numerical superiority ? Surely the propaganda machinery of Pakistan wouldn't stay silent if they were causing much damage to our side. They would be circulating videos on SM about it. Now what we get is : "The Endyians are lobbing mortars and shells on civilians" type stories. Not the usual bravado that would be associated with any action that Pak takes. Not to mention our casualty count would go up.
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What about man power to operate, transportation of the equipment, extra logistic etc
It will take 1-2 months for this.
PM modi is doing good by keeping military busy other wise they were getting rotten in bunkers for nothing. They need extensive training on every new equipment at least 1 month real time.
No, 130mm m46 is same spec as Russian. IFG and LFG are over engineered.
Everytime Pak brings out offensive weaponry, they are dipping into their already teetering War reserve. Remember that Assymetric warfare is supposed to be a low cost tool.
They are right now silent because of UNHRC and FATF and restricted to non regulars only with light fire. It is expected that they will escalate after that. This is their plan. And the escalation will happen sudden where they will manage to inflict damage on Indian side in first as an element of surprize. They have assesed that what India can do and how to bring back situation to normalcy. Mark this post.
As such it seems it benifits us more to not have Pak blacklisted by FATF but to have the sword of blacklist hang perennially over their head. Though that won't be possible. We'll see.
Wait! You mean to say they have assessed how to Make India retract on abrogation of Art. 370? It'sd not happening bro! Also, on the contrary, any escalation would shift the entire focus from Hr violations to Indo-Pak war and Pakistani belligerence! They did the same mistake in 65'. The minimum goal of doing 65' was to "internationalise" Kashmir and force India into a resolution! If anything it backfired.
Speaks our resident expert on military affairs.
I hope Pakistanis take you as seriously as RaGa is being taken by them. You both are par.
They are not having a numerical superiority. That is why. Locally, we have artillery not only from IA but also from BSF, involved in operations.
They do have greater number of SPGs, which does not amount to much in case of a static operation zone. There is no maneuver involved to render any additional advantage to them
Even for the maneuver warfare, we have been able to circumvent the issue by inducting High Mobility Vehicles (apt for deserts where every army vehicle faces a problem) as gun carriers.
These are my personal views based on my limited knowledge of ground operations but based on study of many past battles and a military thinking developed over a period of time. In my opinion a CSD with IBGs will be far more successful in present scenerios for following reasons,
- If an enemy forward deploys and has very little depth with very high population density in the intended area of battle, the advantage will always be with the highly mobile attacker. The haphazard movement of the population will choke the roads and vital supply lines, rendering movement of war material and men forward difficult.
- The highly mobile attacker can choose a time and place and rapidly move around within the theatre and also between theatres to switch and shock and surprise the forward deployed forces. The gaps can be identified well in advance and the chances by enemy to redploy quickly to block or take on highly mobile IBGs can be completely countered easily.
- Enemy having moved part of reserve to forward areas to bolster its forces in its weak areas will leave it with limited assets to fall back on as reserve to blunt any breakthru by IBGs. Forward deployed forces and low reserves is the best scenerio for the success of an IBG. My study of old USSR OMG tactics shows that their tactics were based on this very situation as it intended to exploit gaps of the NATO forces to quickly penetrate deep enough to be able to engage the second echelons of the defences thereby delaying the support to the forward deployed forces sufficiently to allow for WARSAW pact forces to completely over run the forward defence line of NATO.
- It is my assesment that IA is doing just this and forcing PA to expose its cards well before the game starts.
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