Yes.
But honestly, let me ask a reverse: What is better? Going all out militarily or breaking them economically then going in at will when required?
India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
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Yes.
But honestly, let me ask a reverse: What is better? Going all out militarily or breaking them economically then going in at will when required?
We can still pursue those options. Why have we let the loss of this 1 pilot constrain us? I'm afraid you're mistaking the wood for the forest.
I know it doesnt matter now but more proof that missile and f16 once belonged to Jordan
we should now be certain that this is the plane we shot down
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I am not sir. Did you see the trending Modigoback and bringabhiback? We are a sham democracy and worst part is that GE are just 50 days away.
How many would they number? A few million? Compared to 1.3 billion.
BJP lost MP for want of another 1800 votes even after having larger vote share & Rajasthan for want of another 50k votes. NOTA polled far more votes. BJP voters will never vote for anyone other than BJP but if they are unhappy with BJP, they will go and press NOTA.
Well, after going through all of this, my understanding is this :
1. We don't know a lot of vital details.
-- What has been negotiated in diplomatic channel.
-- What, if any, has been damage done by us.
-- Which power did interfere and how.
-- Did PK said clearly that they will launch a nuclear attack on India and showed something that made Indian leadership abort the mission? What was their communications with us.
2. I now believe that BJP leadership was never interested in punishing Pakistan. All they wanted was to be seen strong. They did it. I have many reasons to believe this.
-- Sushma Swaraj's presence in China. I think she was there to signal status quo to China and to negotiate de-escalation.
-- Forces and leadership were not on the same page and worse, leadership didn't support force's actions fully. Dare I say their goals were not aligned. Forces were there to force a destruction of terror camps, obviously if attacked forces will respond in kind. BJP was aligned till the point of destruction of terror camp. But as all things in politics, the important part is : what was not said... When it came to a confrontation with Pakistan in a military sense, the license to kill was revoked. This was clearly shown time and again. Its written all over : "Non military action", "We do not want further escalation" all that jibes.
-- Stopping the military at the last moment.
I too was wondering how can a rookie like a Flt Lt fire two AMRAAMs in quick succession on two different targets. So it was the CO of the sqn who did it.
most important question- will there be action after Sushma completes the OIC meeting? I had told @Milspec we will do something after MBS leaves. I think we will do something after Sushma gets back.
Sirjee, this is not a T20 match, this is a test match. When we are playing the long game, a little hiccup here or there won't influence the big game.
So I don't think we will have naval strikes any time soon. Let the air force play the long game. Let the army put the pressure on the land and navy at sea. If push comes to shove, the other two can come into the picture. For now it's the air force's time to shine.
'hur dur modi'
Get your head out of your asses people. The present situation is very satisfactory. As of now, we have conducted a powerful strike in Pakistan proper, and traded our worst A2A aircraft with Pakistan's best with one pilot killed in action and ours alive and likely coming home tomorrow. Pakistan's strike on trees will have whatever meaning we choose to give it.
If you watched the press conference, we have not committed to de-escalation. We may not take any action today and maybe no action in the coming days but nothing has been ruled out. More importantly with the given exchange of aircraft, we really have no need to respond further. We can choose the next time and place to strike on our discretion.
The confirmation of F-16 kill is sufficient as such on the propaganda side. We may not win that side but there is no doubt we accomplished our tactical goals. We were never going to deter further terrorist acts but at least now we have a set precedent for action when it next happens.
Also please take note that the people taking decisions have a far clearer picture of the actual ground situation and armchair warfighting must at some be deferred to the actual warriors.
Most importantly while you criticize Modi please take into note, he has shown far greater balls than Congwadis and you would not want to have pappu taking such important decisions for the country.
Get your head out of your asses people. The present situation is very satisfactory. As of now, we have conducted a powerful strike in Pakistan proper, and traded our worst A2A aircraft with Pakistan's best with one pilot killed in action and ours alive and likely coming home tomorrow. Pakistan's strike on trees will have whatever meaning we choose to give it.
If you watched the press conference, we have not committed to de-escalation. We may not take any action today and maybe no action in the coming days but nothing has been ruled out. More importantly with the given exchange of aircraft, we really have no need to respond further. We can choose the next time and place to strike on our discretion.
The confirmation of F-16 kill is sufficient as such on the propaganda side. We may not win that side but there is no doubt we accomplished our tactical goals. We were never going to deter further terrorist acts but at least now we have a set precedent for action when it next happens.
Also please take note that the people taking decisions have a far clearer picture of the actual ground situation and armchair warfighting must at some be deferred to the actual warriors.
Most importantly while you criticize Modi please take into note, he has shown far greater balls than Congwadis and you would not want to have pappu taking such important decisions for the country.
unless someone like Vishnu Som confirms this I don't think this news makes sense.
I agree with you even more. Modi wanted to use this as an enhancement of his ego but chickened out after one of our guys landed in POK.
It's difficult to predict that way.
In my what's app group , loony toons post anti BjP messages every day.
Only few does it , other keep ignoring them but these hate message s will be bringing the non voter to vote for BJP.
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